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News Roundup: Gonzalez Trade Efforts Stall

-P- The Post-Gazette reports that efforts to trade Mike Gonzalez aren't going anywhere:

The New York Yankees have offered outfielder Melky Cabrera, but he lacks the power that general manager Dave Littlefield is seeking and is not considered to be enough. It is believed that there have been no meaningful talks between the sides this week.

Reasonable people can disagree about whether Cabrera will develop enough to be worth trading Gonzalez. I think he will, but I can understand the arguments that he won't because he won't develop enough power and because he will lose his athleticism as he ages.

I'm not sure those arguments have much to do with Littlefield's thinking right now, though. Cabrera is already useful in a number of ways that don't have to do with power, and he is young enough to provide power later on. But Littlefield's tunnel vision will probably ultimately prevent him from acquiring a guy like Cabrera. We've all seen examples of Littlefield's tunnel vision. Once a player, such as Xavier Nady, enters Littlefield's field of vision, he never leaves. Once Kevin McClatchy tells him to get three bats, he does - and they're Sean Casey, Jeromy Burnitz and Joe Randa.

Because of his tunnel vision, Littlefield will get the player who's been (rather unfortunately, in retrospect) dubbed "Lefty McThump." Littlefield will get a corner player who's left-handed and has some reputation (probably from the distant past) for hitting for power. Littlefield's mind is probably closed to any other option, whether he's ready to admit that yet or not.

Whatever happens, it will be considerably worse for the Pirates than just trading Mike Gonzalez for Melky Cabrera and a prospect. I can pretty much guarantee that.

-P- The Brewers have offered a four-year deal to Jeff Suppan. Hopefully, the Pirates will not be tempted to top it.

-P- The Reds have acquired Jeff Conine from the Phillies for minor leaguers Brad Key and Javon Moran. Moran, an outfielder, is the only one of the two who's marginally interesting; he played respectably at Class AA last year at age 23. Still , this is pretty much just a dump by the Phillies. Why anyone would bother trading for Conine at this point is beyond me - he can't hit anymore and has become a butcher in the field. A lot of things Wayne Krivsky does are beyond me, though.

-P- The Yankees have signed Cuban infielder Juan Miranda to a four-year deal.

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conine
Good news for the Pirates, with Conine likely playing first base against Duke, Gorzelanny and Maholm.

by bolton on Dec 22, 2006 4:28 PM EST reply actions  

Carlos Pena
What would it take to get him? He is solid defensively and has power. Of course his contact rate is low but I see him as a valid option.

by buccoben on Dec 22, 2006 5:44 PM EST reply actions  

Gonzalez trade rumor back on...
Via mlbtraderumors.com, via BuccoBlog...

"Bucco Blog is reporting tonight that the oft rumored three-team trade between the Yankees, Braves, and Pirates is all but complete.

Mike Gonzalez is taking a requested physical for the Yankees today and, if he passes, it looks like he will be a Yankee for Christmas. The Pirates will be getting Adam LaRoche and the Braves will get Melky Cabrera and at least one unidentified Pirate who is thought to be either Nate McLouth or Jose Castillo. There are a couple versions of this trade running according to Bucco Blog so more as we hear it."

This is the closest this has come to happening thus far.

by ILLZ on Dec 23, 2006 2:21 AM EST reply actions  

Update
Via BuccoBlog:

"UPDATE 1:11 am Saturday morning: A few people have emailed me that WPXI in Pittsburgh reported last night that Mike Gonzalez cancelled an appearance at a baseball clinic in Texas Friday to take his physical for the Yankees.

More as it becomes available."

by ILLZ on Dec 23, 2006 2:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Bucco Blog?
Does anybody know anything about this blog?  I've been digging around and it seems like whoever runs it does a bad job of reporting gossip in the sense that things he reports never actually come to fruition.  Anybody have any info?

by ILLZ on Dec 24, 2006 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Gonzalez
I`d hate to see him go, but, if the Pirates end up with Adam LaRoche, and only have to sweeten the pot with a Nate McLouth or Jose Castillo, then it`s worth it. I just don`t buy into the Melky Cabrera for Gonzalez thing. The Yankees would have to throw in more.

The other reason I want to see this done soon is because Littlefield will waste the team`s money on some veteran bozo if they can`t get LaRoche.

The moral of this story is NOT to give Littlefield a lot of extra money to spend at the major league level.
If they want to spend more money, go crazy on the scouting, signing and development of players which could give them one hell of a farm system for the next several years.  

by patthatt on Dec 23, 2006 11:02 AM EST reply actions  

LaRoche
If this deal goes through then the Bucs need to sign Aubrey Huff.  There are no decent second basemen left on the market.  The best one is Ronnie Belliard and he's 31 and strikes out day and night.  

Park Sanchez at second base, put Huff at third and suddenly you have not one, but TWO professional left handed hitters in your lineup.  I'm probably crazy, but then you trade Duke or Gorzelany for Alex Rios and you have yourself a real-deal major league baseball team.

  1. Duffy (CF)
  2. Sanchez (2B)
  3. Bay (LF)
  4. LaRoche (1B)
  5. Rios (RF)
  6. Huff (3B)
  7. Paulino (C)
  8. Wilson (SS)
  9. pitcher
This lineup would be insanely fast and have 4 30+ homer-capable hitters.

by bryanzane on Dec 23, 2006 12:48 PM EST reply actions  

like I was saying...
From the PG today:

The Pirates have made contact with Aubrey Huff, the most prominent left-handed power hitter remaining in free agency, and are one of a handful of teams considered to be in the running for his services.

by bryanzane on Dec 23, 2006 12:49 PM EST reply actions  

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