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Danny Murtaugh

I just noticed that Danny Murtaugh is among the 20 former managers, executives and umpires on the new Hall of Fame ballot to be considered by the Veterans Committee next month.

Billy Martin, Whitey Herzog, Dick Williams and Davey Johnson are just some of the other names on the ballot, so I'm sure Murtaugh won't get elected over those more popular names.

But a .540 winning percentage and two world series titles is a pretty good resume. And, of course, he filled out the first all-black lineup card in MLB.

Anyone here think he's deserving and does anyone think he has a shot?

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Not really
We all have fond memories of Danny, and he managed some great clubs, as well as having brought two of them world championships, but in the grand scheme of baseball history, I doubt he has the resume of a Hall of Famer.  That isn't to detract at all from what he did--he was brought back to clean up messes three times.  It is just the standard for election to the Hall of Fame ought to be consistent excellence over a long period of time. I think there are people there who don't deserve to be there, even though they had illustrious careers.

by RichieHebner on Nov 9, 2007 9:54 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I could actually see...
...him hopping a few of the guys you mentioned, purely on personality. Johnson and Martin had serious personality issues that might cost them some votes, and Williams could fail as a result of his police record. Not saying it's necessarily right or fair, but that's the way things work sometimes in HOF elections. It's why Kirby Puckett sailed through, while Dick Allen's on the outside looking in.

Murtaugh isn't the only Buc on the ballot; former owner Barney Dreyfuss also made the cut.

If there's a slam dunk on the list, it's probably Marvin Miller.

by Vlad on Nov 9, 2007 11:42 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Marvin Miller
changes the face of sports, not just baseball.  If he isn't a slam dunk, I don't know who is.  If any Pirate luminary deserves entry it is Barney Dreyfuss.

by RichieHebner on Nov 9, 2007 5:17 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yes
Danny was a fine example for HOF consideration.  If he had managed in New York, he'd be in already.  

by Doug Froebel on Nov 9, 2007 9:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

danny
yeah i say he should, but probably wont.
robt

by robt on Nov 10, 2007 10:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Nah
Shouldn't a high priority for consideration for a Hall of Fame be that the guy was, y'know, famous? I doubt Danny was even remotely famous outside of Pittsburgh -- if you asked 100 random nonPirates baseball fans, "Who managed the Pirates to the 1960 and 1971 World Series championships?" how many do you think would know? Hell, how many Piartes fans would know? Billy Martin was trouble -- traditional trouble -- but he's certainly as famous as any manager ever, what with the perennial Yankees revolving door, the NYC media etc. Murtaugh's temperamental opposite. That gets noticed way way more than a guy in a rocking chair.

by bucdaddy on Nov 12, 2007 11:55 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I don't think the level of fame
should be and is one of the criteria to get one in the HOF. I'm suprised that Martin isn't in by now, winning WS as a player and a coach. Don't sell Murtaugh's accomplishments short, more true baseball fans know who he is than you might think.

by puget sound pirate on Nov 12, 2007 2:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'm telling you...
...it's all about him being a jerk. HOF voters have the emotional fortitude of 12-year-old girls, and if some nasty baseball man was mean to them 30 years ago, they'll blackball him until his grandchildren are dead.

by Vlad on Nov 12, 2007 3:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm guessing that Ty Cobb
must have threatened to beat them within an inch of their lives if they didn't vote him into the HOF.

by puget sound pirate on Nov 12, 2007 4:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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