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Rule V Draft

What are we getting?

I guess the Devil Rays are entertaining 2 options:

  1. Take Brian Barton with the first pick.
  2. Sell the pick to the Padres, who will take Brian Barton.
I'm going to try and keep up with this today.

UPDATE 2:19 PM by Charlie: Nice work here, Bryan and Vlad. The Bucs took reliever Evan Meek, a 24-year-old from Tampa Bay who posts good strikeout rates but has trouble with control. This is the sort of player I thought they'd take - someone who can potentially help the bullpen - although Meek himself wasn't on my radar. The Pirates released Jose Castillo to make room on the roster.

Don't shed any tears for Castillo - who the Pirates weren't going to take to arbitration anyway - or for Barton, who probably would've clogged up space on the roster without contributing much. The Bucs already have a bunch of outfielders, and Barton will be 26 early next season, so his AA numbers aren't really that impressive, and he didn't perform well in a small sample at AAA last year.

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The Cubs are trading for the Rays #1 pick to take Barton, not the Padres as reported.

by bryanzane on Dec 6, 2007 10:04 AM EST reply actions  

Eligible Clubs
IN ORDER:
TB
PIT
BAL
SF
FLA
CIN
WASH
HOUS
OAK
STL
MIN
LAD
TOR
CHI
SEA
DET
NYM
SD
PHIL
COL
AZ
CLEVELAND
BOSTON

by bryanzane on Dec 6, 2007 10:09 AM EST reply actions  

Meek
Evan Meek, who pitched fairly well at AA Montgomery this past season.

by bryanzane on Dec 6, 2007 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Barton
St. Lois gets Barton with the TENTH selection.

by bryanzane on Dec 6, 2007 10:14 AM EST reply actions  

RA DICKEY!?!
Someone just took 33 year old knuckleballer RA Dickey.

by bryanzane on Dec 6, 2007 10:16 AM EST reply actions  

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Scoreboard.
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NAWAB

by scoreboard on Dec 6, 2007 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

meek ???
I see that BA predicted we would pick him or the guy who went third.  His minor league stats don't look very exciting.  24 yrs old, been through three organizations already, only a little time at AA, and he hasn't done much.  ???

by aih on Dec 6, 2007 10:24 AM EST reply actions  

Video
I saw some video of him and he looks flippin' huge.  Apparently has plus stuff across the board and a very live arm...

by bryanzane on Dec 6, 2007 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Lahey and Meek
Rumors have the Cubs trading to get Lahey and Meek being traded to the Padres.  No word on what for yet.

by bryanzane on Dec 6, 2007 10:24 AM EST reply actions  

AAA Portion
Has begun.

Pirates take RHP Joshua Hill from MINN.

by bryanzane on Dec 6, 2007 10:28 AM EST reply actions  

Hill
Australian righty, nicknamed "Shaggy", 24 last year in AA. Pitched for Australia in the WBC, decent minors stats (walk rate's a little high). Decent pick, maybe worth having.

by Vlad on Dec 6, 2007 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Also:
Nice to have a Shaggy in the organization again. I miss Josh Higgins.

by Vlad on Dec 6, 2007 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

First Pirate taken
I don't recall which team, but someone just took Smelin Perez from Altoona.

by bryanzane on Dec 6, 2007 10:29 AM EST reply actions  

Second Round of AAA Portion
Pirates select RHP Mauricio Mendez from BOS

by bryanzane on Dec 6, 2007 10:35 AM EST reply actions  

Mendez
Dominican reliever, born 9/22/85, two years in the DSL followed by two in the GCL. Low hit/HR rates, so he probably has good stuff, though sample size is limited.

by Vlad on Dec 6, 2007 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Third Round of AAA Portion
Pirates select LHP Corey Hamman of DET

by bryanzane on Dec 6, 2007 10:40 AM EST reply actions  

Hamman
27-year-old lefty swingman, seems hittable and has a low K rate. One of Smith's draftees in Detroit, probably staff filler.

by Vlad on Dec 6, 2007 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Can someone explain?
What are the rules for the minor league portion? Are they the same as the major league portion?

by succos12 on Dec 6, 2007 10:44 AM EST reply actions  

Minor League Portion Rules
There are no rules in the minor league portion like in the Major League portion.  You select them ($12,000 for AAA and $4,000 for AA) and then they are yours.  You can place them at any level.

by bryanzane on Dec 6, 2007 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

A bit more detail.
Teams set "rosters" of guys at AAA, AA, etc. before the draft, although there's no obligation for a guy on that roster to actually play at that level before being moved to whatever level their team wants. During the AAA portion, only guys who are on a AA roster or lower can be taken, and during the AA portion, only guys from A+ or lower can be taken.

by Vlad on Dec 6, 2007 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

BEGIN AA Phase
Pirates select RHP Rafael Cruz Chavez of LA Angels.

by bryanzane on Dec 6, 2007 10:45 AM EST reply actions  

Chavez
Righty reliever, 24 next year, spent 2007 pitching in Mexico. Very low K and BB rates, looks like a control guy.

by Vlad on Dec 6, 2007 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

According to baseball america...
From here.

Smelin to the Marlins.
And the Rangers took Clayton Hamilton... with this bit added in by BA...

"And now the Rangers just took Clayton Hamilton from the Pirates, saving him from the Pirates medical staff that misdiagnosed Hamilton's cracked rib for a muscle strain. Hamilton had to have the rib removed this offseason."

"Wait till next year... again" Transactionizing

by UtesFan89 on Dec 6, 2007 10:46 AM EST reply actions  

Meek vs. Bierd
Anyone know why they would take meek with bierd still available? Beird is a year younger and has a higher strikeout rate, plus his name ir Randor.

by succos12 on Dec 6, 2007 11:07 AM EST reply actions  

why?
If the rumors are true, that they traded the pick, then they didn't actually choose Meek.  Just like Lahey, the Rays didn't draft him, the Cubs did.  Tampa Bay was just a proxy...

by bryanzane on Dec 6, 2007 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Also
Meek can dial it up and produce some serious heat, hitting 97-98 MPH.  His AFL stats were really impressive, 9 relief appearances, striking out 9 and allowing only 1 run and 3 hits...

by bryanzane on Dec 6, 2007 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Press release is out.
Link.

Doesn't have any indication that we traded the pick.

by Vlad on Dec 6, 2007 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah
The rumors that Meek was going to San Diego were squashed when it was reported that the Padres had taken Carlos Guevara with the Marlins pick.

by bryanzane on Dec 6, 2007 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Bierd v. Meek
Bierd had TJ in 2005, while Meek's health record is pretty clean. Maybe the medical stuff scared them off?

by Vlad on Dec 6, 2007 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Castillo released?
If they are trading the pick, why did they release castillo? I am assuming they released him to add meeks to the 40 man.

by succos12 on Dec 6, 2007 11:18 AM EST reply actions  

You can't make a pick...
...unless you have an open spot on the 40-man.

Plus, Castillo was pretty expendable.

by Vlad on Dec 6, 2007 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

I thought....
I thought you meant they traded the pick before the draft not after they picked him.

by succos12 on Dec 6, 2007 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Sneaky
The way it works (simply stated) is that you agree to sell or trade your pick and then you make the selection for the other team.  Then after the draft is completed you make the announcement.

by bryanzane on Dec 6, 2007 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I see
still learning the ins and outs or the rule 5 draft

by succos12 on Dec 6, 2007 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Meek and Castillo
There was no connection.  Actually, in order to make selections in the Rule V draft you must already have an open roster spot.  So if you intend to make 3 selections in the MLB portion of the draft, you must have 3 open spots on your 40-man roster...

by bryanzane on Dec 6, 2007 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Keith Law's Take
This is what Keith Law thinks of Meek:

"The Pirates took the guy with the best fastball in Evan Meek, who works in the 90-94 range but lacks an average second pitch and has below-average command."

At least he throws 90 most of the merry go round of relief pitching prospects from last year barely hit 88.

by succos12 on Dec 6, 2007 2:13 PM EST reply actions  

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