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Is There Any Precedent For This?

I was watching the Bucs play the Yankees but, given the Pirates' own lack of interest in their future, I lost interest too.

Seriously, is there any precedent for a team intentionally choosing a reliever with the fourth pick in the draft or earlier? Can anyone name a time in the last ten or fifteen years when a team has done that? I only know a lot about drafts going back to 2002 or so, but I can't think of a single time a team intentionally took a reliever in the top ten. The earliest I can remember a team taking a reliever was when the Reds took Ryan Wagner with the 14th pick in the 2003 draft. The Expos took Chad Cordero later that round, and the A's took Huston Street with a sandwich pick in the 2004 draft.

There may be a few others, but those are the only times I can think of in the past few years in which a team intentionally chose a reliever in the first round. And even in those cases, all three pitchers were lights-out, near-unhittable college relievers - Moskos wasn't. And the Expos only picked Cordero because they thought they might be contracted and didn't have a future. In other words, they picked Cordero for the same reason they traded Grady Sizemore, Cliff Lee and Brandon Phillips for a few starts by Bartolo Colon.

Right now Dave Littlefield is behaving as if he's worried the Pirates are going to be contracted. I've written at length many times going back to last season about what a mess the Pirates are going to be once 2010 rolls around, and this Daniel Moskos pick is more evidence that Littlefield and the ownership just do not care what happens to the team after 2009. They just want a player who can get through the minors quickly, never mind that he has little upside. (And for what it's worth, I'd also bet against Moskos getting through the minors quickly.)

Littlefield is acting like he's a member of a cult whose leader is claiming the world will end on December 31, 2009. But the Pirates will still be here once the ball drops, and we're going to know they are, because we'll be feeling the reality of an impending 110-loss season.

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I agree with everything you say. I would be happier if the Pirates drafted a Boras client and then failed to sign him. At least make an effort to get top talent.

by bolton on Jun 8, 2007 9:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

110 losses?
that's an awfully optimistic prediction.

by Geeves28 on Jun 8, 2007 9:52 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My first thought
110 may be the minimum probable loss total the 2010 Pirates will achieve. The maximum may set somewhere around 130.

by steve_z on Jun 9, 2007 1:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's why they also drafted brian tracy
What is your guess for how Moskos really thinks about the pirates drafting him?
You get drafted by a team that doesn't know how to draft, develops players poorly, has a bleak future and chose you primarily because you'd be an easy signer.
The Bucs will "probably" be his favorite team.

by vherub on Jun 8, 2007 10:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Probably his favorite
Depends on whether it's in his contract.  Could cost them another $10K in bonus money.

by WTM on Jun 8, 2007 10:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If we're lucky, and we're not, are we....
Moskos should sign on with Boras and ask for the moon.

by steve_z on Jun 9, 2007 1:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Precedent
Matt Anderson, #1 overall for the Tigers in 1997, is the only recent example that springs to mind of a college reliever chosen top 10 with the expectation that he'd be a relief pitcher. He made it to the majors, but I don't think the Tigers were probably very happy with the way that pick turned out. Before him, you have at least two other guys: Gregg Olson (4th overall, 1988), and Wayne Gomes (4th overall, 1993). Olson turned into a good closer; Gomes had a fairly undistinguished six-year career in the bigs.

I've seen other sources mention Paul Shuey, Braden Looper, and Darren Dreifort as high-drafted college relievers. Shuey and Looper were both used as starters after signing before moving to the pen, and I can't find anything on Dreifort's usage pattern in the minors, but he was a starter in MLB until his arm blew up for the 20th time.

A few more first-round college relievers of recent years:
Royce Ring (18th overall, 2002)
David Aardsma (22nd overall, 2003)
Craig Hansen (26th overall, 2005)

by Vlad on Jun 9, 2007 12:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Add
Atlanta's pick of Joey Devine to that list as well.

by Count Vertigo on Jun 9, 2007 6:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks for that, Vlad.
I'm too young to have been paying attention to the '97 draft. I do remember Ring, though: 'What?! A starter instead of a reliever? Cool, I get Blanton.'

by Charlie on Jun 9, 2007 9:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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