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Nationals Get Josh Willingham, Scott Olsen from Marlins

Another strange trade. For the Marlins, who get infielders Emilio Bonifacio and Jake Smolinski and pitcher P.J. Dean, this is pretty standard. They trade two guys who are about to get expensive for some young players, and as those things go, they've done pretty well here. Bonifacio has been regarded as an interesting young player for a while, but I've never really understood why; he never hit especially well even in the wacky ballpark in Tucson, and he has no power whatsoever. Smolinski and Dean, though, are more intriguing.

Smolinski is a 19-year-old who held his own in full-season ball this year. He was supposed to be pretty polished for a high school player when he was drafted in 2007, so his solid 2008 season may not be a sign of great things, but he at least stands a pretty good chance of eventually being a decent everyday player.

Dean (not to be confused with T.J. Beam; maybe the Pirates could trade for Dean and try to win games by perplexing the scoreboard operator, thus increasing the chances that they end up with an "8" instead of a "0" some inning or something) is a projectable young pitcher who was very good--though not as good as his 1.57 ERA suggested--in the New York-Penn League this year, until he was shut down with a "tired arm." If Dean's healthy, he could be a good sleeper for prospect-watchers next year.

As for the Nationals, this trade might make some sense if they were in playoff contention, but they're nowhere near it, and Willingham and Olsen aren't the sorts of players you build around. Olsen, in particular, is not very good; last year he combined control issues with 30 taters allowed and an inability to strike hitters out, and in 2007 he was downright terrible. He's only 24, but his attitude problems are well-known, so he may never get better. Putting him in the same clubhouse with Elijah Dukes should be some sort of felony; I pity the other 23 guys who will have to share a locker room with them.

Willingham's perfectly decent, but next year will be his age-30 season, and he had back troubles this year. With the implosion of Austin Kearns in 2008, the Nats should have room for Willingham in left field, but... why? Willingham probably doesn't have more than a couple years left in him, and he's about to get really expensive as the Nats take him to arbitration.

Good trade for the Marlins, although it actually looks worse if they trade Dan Uggla and make Bonifacio their starting second baseman. As for the Nationals, this looks to me like lipstick on a pig.

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Are you kidding...

if this is the trade as rumored this is a steal for the Nats. Bowden has pulled one out of the hat; reminiscient of the Kearns deal from a couple of years ago. The Marlins could have got more IMO.

by Slick1 on Nov 11, 2008 12:49 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Uggla

would look great in black and gold and batting third. But there’s little chance the Marlins would give him up for what we have.

by Ketcham Bruce on Nov 11, 2008 9:20 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Have you even SEEN Petunia Pig with lipstick on?

That oinker’s HAWT, I’m tellin’ ya.

by bucdaddy on Nov 11, 2008 10:00 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

There are things that concern me about Olsen...

…but even if you don’t like him as a person, he’s still a significant upgrade for a Nats rotation that was teetering on the edge of disaster for all of 2008. They needed SP help in the worst way, and they got a guy who’s delivered a #3-type performance in two of the last three years… and he’s also young enough and equipped with good enough stuff that further improvement isn’t out of the question. It’s unfortunate that he’s also a jerk and a head case, but there’s a reason that the items in the bargain bin are discounted, and at least he’s not violent like Dukes.

I don’t think much of Bonifacio as a prospect, and they can probably get back at least one guy comparable to the two low-minors players they gave up if they want to flip Willingham at the deadline. On the whole, it seems like a reasonable enough move to me.

by Vlad on Nov 11, 2008 11:05 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Sarcasm?

Or by “not violent” do you mean that he loses every fight he’s in?

http://www.blogtoplist.com/rss/scott-olsen.html

" Scott Olsen Arrested
2007-07-21 23:06:00
So Scott Olsen is in trouble again.After fighting Miguel Cabrera and losing. After fighting Randy Messenger and getting clocked. After going after Sergio Mitre, and getting suspended, Olsen mixed things up last night and went after an opponent that didn’t play for the Florida Marlins.Olsen got in a fight— with the Florida Police. According to the AP Report, the following transpired late last night:“An officer clocked [Olsen] driving 48 mph in a 35 mph zone and attempted to pull him over at about 3:40 a.m.Olsen continued to drive about one mile, running a stop sign before stopping at his Aventura home.The pitcher got out of his car and sat down on a plastic chair in front of his home. When backup officers arrived and tried to arrest him, Bentolila said Olsen kicked at the officers, who used a stun gun on the 6-foot-5 pitcher.”It should be interesting to see what kind of reaction this will get with the press and league. With Olsen’s rap sheet of fighting everything and anything…

by azibuck on Nov 11, 2008 4:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

OK, not AS violent

In addition to documented-but-unprosecuted fights with teammates and coaches, Dukes has been arrested five times for either assault or battery, and has had protective orders filed against him by three different women. The third of the three came after he threatened, in writing, to murder not only his estranged wife but also their young children.

Elijah Dukes is in a class by himself.

by Vlad on Nov 11, 2008 4:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

At least....

At least Dukes seems to have upside on the field.

Olsen’s K/9 has dropped like a rock in the last 2 years. Willingham is 30 and likely due for a steep decline. Although good for him not due to indiscriminantly fighting with teamates or beating a woman or multiple women. Deal seems like another reach by Bowden to me. Liked by the sabermaticians on the surface like the move for Kearns/Lopez. But turns out to be worthless for the Nats.

by haven on Nov 11, 2008 9:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, he's regressed a bit.

But he’s still:

a) Younger, at 25 in 2009, than some “prospects” who’ve never pitched in the majors at all (he’s a year and a half younger than Dan McCutchen, for instance).
b) Significantly better than whatever stiff the Nats would’ve been using in their rotation instead.

by Vlad on Nov 12, 2008 10:37 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, no doubt about Dukes

Just sayin. Olsen may pick his spots, poorly, but he’s not not violent.

by azibuck on Nov 11, 2008 10:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

A fair point.

I should’ve phrased my bit differently.

by Vlad on Nov 12, 2008 10:38 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Smolinski

I saw Jake play every day and was at the game where he was injured on a freak hop.
He is a decent prospect and worth keeping an eye on…….

Check out my blog at thoughtsofrs@blogspot.com

by Count Vertigo on Nov 11, 2008 12:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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