Stolen Bases: Not the Pirates' Problem
This almost offends me, it's so silly:
One of the glaring statistics that jumped out at me with the two teams in the World Series this year was their ability to steal bases. With Andrew McCutchen coming up and Nyjer Morgan's speed, is there going to be pressure from management on the coaches to steal more bases this year?
-- Matt G., Clarion, Pa.The Pirates ranked 15th out of 16 NL teams last season in stolen bases with just 57, a total that most certainly should be improved. It's no secret that, aside from center fielder Nate McLouth, the '08 Pirates lacked speed.
Yes, stolen bases were what caused the 2008 Pirates' downfall. That's why they're not in the World Series. Never mind that teams make or win the World Series despite low stolen-base totals all the time. The 2006 Cardinals and Tigers finished 25th and 24th in the majors in stolen bases, respectively; the 2004 Red Sox finished 21st; the 2002 Giants finished 22nd; the 2001 Diamondbacks finished 23rd; the 2000 Mets finished 27th.
Stolen bases, in and of themselves, are almost irrelevant to the Pirates' chances in any given year. There isn't much of a correlation between stealing bases and scoring runs, because a lot of stolen bases are effectively canceled out by caught stealings and because the distraction of a fast runner on first doesn't seem to have much impact on the pitcher (or maybe it does, but that effect is largely canceled because the hitter gets distracted, too).
This is not to say that a hitter like Nate McLouth who steals bases very effectively does not contribute to his team, or that he should stop doing it. And the Pirates' lack of stolen bases does indicate a problem, just not the one MLB.com suggests it does. Lots of baseball's stolen base leaders are the sorts of young, athletic players who could help turn the Pirates' fortunes around--Jose Reyes, Grady Sizemore, B.J. Upton, Hanley Ramirez, Matt Kemp. Young players with a broad base of skills, including speed, often age very nicely. The Pirates don't have many of those sorts of players; in fact, the only hitter they have with a conventionally broad base of skills is McLouth.
(Sidenote: where in the world does MLB.com get the idea that McLouth should shoot for 40 steals in 2009? He's never had more than 23, and he isn't getting younger. McLouth isn't slow, but he's not as fast as lots of stolen base leaders. The reason he steals so well is that he picks his spots well. If he tried to run more frequently, his stolen base percentage would probably decline.)
It does not follow that the 2009 Pirates need to worry much about stealing bases, though. Reyes, Sizemore and Upton, for example, were not added to their teams' lineups to provide stolen bases; they were added because they were top prospects. The goal here needs to be to acquire top young players. At that point, the stolen bases will probably increase.
In the meantime, though, there are only a few options that would clearly increase the Pirates' stolen base totals in 2009. One is to promote Andrew McCutchen, but clearly, promoting him just so he can provide speed would be the wrong thing to do. Another is to acquire a hitter or two from outside the organization, but this would almost certainly be a failure: players who have speed plus other strong characteristics would be too costly, and players who provide little on offense other than speed have been the targets in some of the worst transactions of the past several years (think of Juan Pierre's free agent contract, or the Brad Lidge-for-Michael Bourn deal).
Other options to increase stolen bases all involve letting Nyjer Morgan get lots of playing time. Morgan is a lot like Bourn or Willy Taveras but without the sound defense or good (as opposed to merely fast) baserunning, but Bourn and Taveras were both more promising hitters in the minors. The price in offense the Pirates would pay to have Morgan in their lineup would likely be very steep.
Actively encouraging Morgan to steal bases might actually make the Pirates worse. Morgan has done a nice job increasing his stolen base percentage in the minors the past couple of years but, from watching him in the majors the past two years, his eight caught stealings (against 16 steals) and multiple baserunning blunders are telling, I think. If Morgan had specific instructions to try to run up his stolen base totals, my guess is that the gaffes would increase.
We should not let the fact that the two World Series teams happened to steal lots of bases distract us. Stolen base totals by themselves are not the Pirates' problem.
0 recs |
8 comments
|
Comments
Speed kills quickly...
especially when Morgan runs us out of innings.
by Thunder on Nov 3, 2008 4:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Maybe I'm grasping for straws but ...
The Pittsburgh Pirates: 15th out of 16 in the NL in stolen bases, 15th out of 16 in the NL in on-base percentage.
I know there’s not a direct correlation between the two, but if the Pirates focus on an important thing like raising on-base percentage, then they should have more chances to steal bases and presumably more stolen bases.
http://www.whygavs.com
http://mlb.fanhouse.com
by whygavs on Nov 3, 2008 4:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That’s true. The BP article linked above makes a similar point—there doesn’t seem to be any correlation between the teams that steal a ton of bases and the runs they score, but there does seem to be somewhat of a correlation between the teams that score a lot of runs and the bases they steal. The idea, presumably, is that teams that get on base all the time score tons of runs AND have lots of opportunities for steals that they wouldn’t otherwise.
For our purposes here, though, what’s important is that the reverse doesn’t work. You can probably steal a few more bases if you have a better offense. What you probably CAN’T do is score many more runs by stealing more bases.
by Charlie on Nov 3, 2008 4:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Research Shows that...
Research has consistently shown that all stolen base attempts must be successful about 80% of the time just for the team to break even in runs scored. I have never been an advocate of the SB except for the late innings of a close game where the runner exerts significant pressure on the pitcher and detracts him from his attention upon the batter.
Instead, I would like to see our team concentrate more on speed and less on stolen bases. Speed on the base paths and in the field is much more important than a stolen base which when unsuccessful can take a team out of an inning. Given that a team has only 3 outs to use per inning, they are just to precious to waste on runners thrown out attempting to steal.
by Illinois Pirate Fan on Nov 3, 2008 6:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Speed >>>>> steals
Agreed. The Angels have shown how aggressive baserunning can help a team IF they’re good at it. (Of course, you have to HAVE baserunners.) Speed in the field would help, too.
If you look at teams like Boston and Tampa, it seems to me that the old walks and HRs approach is giving way to all-around athleticism. With guys like McCutchen, Tabata and Nate, the Bucs could be pretty well positioned as the game moves away from pure power.
by WTM on Nov 3, 2008 6:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That pretty much makes my point.
Nyjer Morgan was successful 64% of his steal attempts this season (9 of 14). And that’s only because he was successful the last 4 times he tried (only 50 percent before that, 5 of 10). Even career, he’s only 16 of 24 in the majors…67 percent. In the minors, he was successful 75% of the time…still below the break even mark. This doesn’t even cover the baserunning outs he’s run into by oversliding bags, etc.
The Pirates had TWO players with more than 2 stolen bases that were successful 80% of the time. Nate was 23 of 26 (88.5%), and Jason Bay who was 7 of 7. Players that had stolen bases without being thrown out…Steve Pearce and Andy LaRoche both had two…Diaz, Nady, Michaels and Bixler had one each.
While getting more men on base will be helpful, it doesn’t appear that the Pirates have many players that are capable of succeeding at the 80% rate that would be considered successful, in fact, just 1, Nate. Cutch is at 74% in the minors…so he doesn’t fit either.
by Thunder on Nov 3, 2008 6:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I always thought that Whitey Herzog wanted speed more for defense than offense, and that he just figured once you had the speed, you might as well turn it loose on the bases, too. As slow as the Pirates’ defense was last year, I think it’s hard to even evaluate most pitchers, let alone develop them.
by Arnold Rothstein on Nov 3, 2008 7:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

by 














