I think it’s very hard for a veteran on a rebuliding club to give stock answers again and again but someone should have told him that this, if anything, decreases his trade value.

I understand the frustration. Your interests will not always be the same as your employers, in any job. You should have the right to voice displeasure to them directly but doing so in the press doesn’t usually help anyone but the press itself.

When the Pirates and Wilson agreed to his current contract, what did each really expect?Wilson has been an above average defender and a mediocre to average hitter. The Pirates have been a low budget team that has poor talent evaluation and trades their higher paid productive players. Did either side expect anything else? Did the Pirates expect Wilson to develop power and drive in 120 runs? Did Wilson expect the PIrates to spend $100 mil on payroll? Now that the too sides are headed for a divorce, it seems odd that either side has the right to be disappointed.

I don’t find Wilson incoherent all. What he is saying is that this accountability stuff is all talk, and that Team Coonington is failing to “walk the talk”, It’s that simple. More later on the Pirate problems.

Talking about being accountable is one thing. Actually being accountable is another. This is what Jack Wilson is questioning.

The Pirates think that they were being accountable last year by sending Paulino and Gorzelanny to AAA. But what did this really accomplish? Meanwhile, Osoria, Salas, Bautista and a much larger cast of experiments were imploding in Pittsburgh.

They held Andrews accountable, as they should have, but they really only made him the scapegoat.

And they are collecting strong-armed pitchers who have no idea where the ball is going. But maybe Kerrigan will straighten them all out.

Vlad, how long did you believe in Dave Littlefield after he was hired before you realized that maybe he was a big part of the problem.

I believe in giving Huntington the benefit of the doubt - but I don’t plan to do so for six years!

I agree with shayborg. I think Jack is disappointed that he may have to be on this losing (laughing stock) team for several more years. Knopwing this and also having nothing done during the offseason by management is proof that the next year will be even worse than last year. Jack is an average player, but let’s face it, many average players have been a hero in a playoff with a good team around him. Jack’s chances of this will most likely never happen now, at least, until he leaves the burgh and then who will want him as a starter. I feel his pain.

You demanded trades last season. “Make moves!” was the cry we heard incessantly from you on BucsDugout.

Trades were made. Big money was spent on the June draft. The team has a new facility in the Dominican Republic and seems to be finally serious about procuring talent from Latin America.

We all hope for another big commitment from the Nuttings for the 2009 draft to keep the farm system rebuilding process on track to producing big dividends in a few years. We all hope for big returns on the commitment to Latin America in a few years as well.

The team will move Jack Wilson if Huntington thinks the return is worthy of his caliber. Huntington just can’t pull a trade with another team out of his arse.

What “major significant moves” still need to be made in your mind for the “turnaround” to start?

Jack isn’t a GM, nor does he want to be. Jack is an athlete, and a fairly conscientious one if his press clippings and community work can be believed. Jack is ca. 30 yrs old. Jack genuinely likes Pittsburgh; he’s been lionized here, arguably (most of you would say it is beyond arguable) beyond his actual merit. (He’s still my favorite Pirate.) But he realizes that the Bucs, at the ML level, aren’t too swell right now. As a conscientious athlete, he wants to be part of a winner. He’s in the same place Bay was last year, except he knows LAD aren’t going to coordinate a 3-team trade with prospects to land him at the deadline.

He realizes he’s going to be on a shitty team for the 9th consecutive year. He thinks that sucks. He doesn’t care about your 5-year plans. He’ll be 35 in 5 years. Dk gave him a forum to air his grievances, and it comes at no cost to him. So he did. That’s all. Evaluating his Gm acumen is beyond pointless. Let it go and hope he’s healthy on opening day.

I’m having a problem posting “replies” to my many critics. What’s up!

Pirates try to end losing ways
By Rick Hummel
ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
03/24/2008
Drawing out his words, the veteran Wilson, who has been on seven of the previous 15 losing clubs, said, “You … win … more … than … you … lose. That’s the only way to do it.”
…But, said Wilson, “If you go into the season, and you don’t believe you can compete, you ought to just take off your spikes, go home and play men’s soccer or something.”…
“I believe every year we’re better than the year before,” Wilson said. “I believe it every year.”
>I guess this year he does not feel this way<
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/cardinals/story/9CC937FEAD4D63F486257416000F92D7?OpenDocument

ESPN.com reporting Ryan Doumit signing for 3 years…terms not announced yet.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3785786

when Jack is talking about the eight core guys that are dying to compete, who is he actually talking about. I hope he doesn’t see him and Freddy as core players to the Pirates.

Jack is getting paid to play and he wants to win. Who doesnt. Maybe this is his T.O. moment of trying to get traded. He wants out because he sees no winning in the future – and he is right. He wont be part of winner in Pittsburgh. He should have negotiated a better “out” clause in his contract….oh wait, I am sure he was just happy to get that kind of contract. You can’t bite the hand that feeds you when it is feeding you better than anyone else would have. Shut up and play or be a man and demand a trade.