Cincinnati vs. Pittsburgh, 11 April 2008
by Charlie
on Apr 11, 2008 12:41 PM EDT
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Cincinnati Reds @ Pittsburgh Pirates
Sorry, all - busy day yesterday. I'm also pretty busy today, but hopefully all that should finish in time for me to join this thread right after game time. I'll recap both games after this one is over.
It's a pretty interesting matchup tonight - we've got youngster Edinson Volquez facing off against Paul Maholm. Volquez dominated his first start of the year, against the Phillies. Here's the box.
Other news:
-P- Sean Burnett apparently hit 93 on a radar gun at Indianapolis. I haven't looked it up, but I don't recall him ever hitting 93, even pre-surgery.
-P- Via Primer, Nelson Figueroa starts for the Mets tonight. If his Baseball Cube Page is correct, this is the first time he's started in the big leagues since he was with the Bucs in 2004. His story since then is pretty interesting, though also pretty typical - he had arm surgery in 2004 and has spent his time since then doing anything to get another shot in the big leagues, pitching in Mexico, Taiwan and the Dominican. This is a good article, and a good story - Figueroa was born in Brooklyn and grew up rooting for the Mets, so this has to be an emotional time for him.
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Pretty cool
check this out, it gives you a panoramic view of PNC. If you go to a game, see if you can find yourself
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/images/video/2007_flash/2007gigapan/3.html
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
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Apr 11, 2008 2:05 PM EDT
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Evan Meek
Did anyone notice the last pitch the he threw last night hit 97 MPH for a strike out? If only he could control that thing. IMO he has some mechanical issues and you'd think that would have been addressed in the past. Probably the reason he has not stuck with anyone before ( not coachable??).
by EMU on
Apr 11, 2008 3:40 PM EDT
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No
X-Man today...
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by UtesFan89 on
Apr 11, 2008 6:42 PM EDT
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For them...
Hopper
Keppinger
KGJ
Phillips
Dunn
Encarnacion
Voto
Bako
Volquez (1-0, 1.69)
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Apr 11, 2008 6:46 PM EDT
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For us...
Morgan
Sanchez
McLouth
Jason-ity
LaRoche
Doumit
Bautista
Rivas
Maholm (0-1, 9.00)
The boldness signifies the "Black Hole"
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Apr 11, 2008 6:47 PM EDT
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Rain?
Is it showing signs of letting up?
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Apr 11, 2008 7:07 PM EDT
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Starting with an error by Maholm. Apparently all the Pirates' pitchers missed fielding practice in Spring Training.
by Charlie on
Apr 11, 2008 7:30 PM EDT
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Not a good start
for Maholm.
Error, and now a HBP.
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by UtesFan89 on
Apr 11, 2008 7:31 PM EDT
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Hits Griffey, then gives up a single to Phillips. Not so good indeed.
by Charlie on
Apr 11, 2008 7:32 PM EDT
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And a walk
to load the bases.
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Apr 11, 2008 7:34 PM EDT
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And he
gets out of it. :)
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by UtesFan89 on
Apr 11, 2008 7:35 PM EDT
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Man, McLouth is just awesome.
Volquez has very good stuff. Good changeup.
by Charlie on
Apr 11, 2008 7:41 PM EDT
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Man, why is Paul Bako still in the majors?
by Charlie on
Apr 11, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
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A hit
by the pitcher.
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Apr 11, 2008 7:49 PM EDT
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Holy sh***
Rivas.
Go home.
Now.
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by UtesFan89 on
Apr 11, 2008 7:51 PM EDT
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Oh, great play by LaRoche to get out of it.
by Charlie on
Apr 11, 2008 7:51 PM EDT
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Dang
A bunt pop out... by the other team!
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Apr 11, 2008 7:52 PM EDT
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*
bunt pop-out double play
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Apr 11, 2008 7:52 PM EDT
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I don't care who plays short
as long as it isn't Luis Rivas.
by Thunder on
Apr 11, 2008 7:53 PM EDT
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Gomez!
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Rivas already has 4 errors on the season...
and Maholm has 2.
Nice to see.
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Apr 11, 2008 7:54 PM EDT
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Man, Rivas just swung at a fastball at his shoulders.
by Charlie on
Apr 11, 2008 7:57 PM EDT
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Please Neal do not take
Rivas to the West Coast
by Bad Andy on
Apr 11, 2008 8:03 PM EDT
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or anywhere else.
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Apr 11, 2008 8:04 PM EDT
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Man, Morgan is not good on defense. That was such an amateurish-looking play.
by Charlie on
Apr 11, 2008 8:05 PM EDT
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he plays some really bad routes on the field
Wouldn't hurt if they send him in Indy
by Bad Andy on
Apr 11, 2008 8:06 PM EDT
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And brought up...
Pearce?
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Apr 11, 2008 8:07 PM EDT
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Rivas! He's at it again!
Am I just crazy? Am I assigning too much blame? Jeez, Doumit was standing there ready to gun down Phillips, but Rivas was not near the bag, so he couldn't throw it.
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Apr 11, 2008 8:06 PM EDT
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I admit I was glad to see Rivas make the team
out of Spring Training then the season began
by Bad Andy on
Apr 11, 2008 8:08 PM EDT
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This looks like it's going to be delayed again.
by Charlie on
Apr 11, 2008 8:07 PM EDT
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His shoulder looks like it's really bothering him.
by Charlie on
Apr 11, 2008 8:15 PM EDT
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Morgan
with another terrible slide trying to steal 2nd. Speed strikes again.
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Apr 11, 2008 8:15 PM EDT
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Joining late, but had to point this out
On the play where Freddy dove but had to throw from his knees...that's a scoop that LaRoche has to make. That's junior high stuff.
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Apr 11, 2008 8:27 PM EDT
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Maybe. My impression was that it was out of his reach. But I could be wrong. In any case, the throw was off, but you can understand it because of Freddy's shoulder.
by Charlie on
Apr 11, 2008 8:28 PM EDT
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Have other teams been playing their third basemen that far toward second when Doumit bats LH? I haven't seen that with him before. Encarnacion was almost at second when he made that play.
by Charlie on
Apr 11, 2008 8:34 PM EDT
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Got outta
that one too.
Still scoreless.
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Apr 11, 2008 8:42 PM EDT
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Anyone watching this?
Does Malholm look as good as the impression I'm getting from MLB Gameday?
Not a lot of strike outs, but he's only thrown 65 pitches through 5 innings and given up no runs.
Is he getting a bit lucky, does he look fantastic, or a bit of both?
by steve_g on
Apr 11, 2008 8:47 PM EDT
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I wouldn't say he looks fantastic. He just looks like regular old Maholm to me.
by Charlie on
Apr 11, 2008 8:50 PM EDT
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There's that one inning where he usually falls apart
This may be the one
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Apr 11, 2008 8:51 PM EDT
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FIrst and second, one out.
If the Reds score, I'm blaming you. :)
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Apr 11, 2008 8:52 PM EDT
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Probably dancing among the raindrops of disaster
I think there's some mathematical equation that tells you the longer the Pirates go allowing the other team to be in the game, the greater the number of runs that teams scores in the 7th, 8th, or 9th innings.
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Apr 11, 2008 8:52 PM EDT
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Or that if you pitch
your starter past the 5th/6th inning, you're screwed.
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Apr 11, 2008 8:53 PM EDT
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Again?
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Is it that bad?
They should've finished the inning at least.
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Apr 11, 2008 8:55 PM EDT
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Apparently,
a huge bolt of lightning hit near the stadium and the heavens opened in biblical proportions. You could hear the thunder over the broadcast and the umps immediately stopped play.
by Trogluddite on
Apr 11, 2008 8:57 PM EDT
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Depending on how long that may be
that may be the last we see of Maholm!
by Bad Andy on
Apr 11, 2008 8:55 PM EDT
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That's not really
a comforting thought though...
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Great Timing
I have to go pick up one of my kids from the movies. I'll be back in time to drink and hear the painful details.
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Apr 11, 2008 8:54 PM EDT
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From a Bautista apologist
He looks disinterested. He looked solid (to me) last year, and I thought he really had something more to give. This year, he looks different. I don't think lazy's the right word, just lacking a spark.
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Apr 11, 2008 8:55 PM EDT
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Sorry boss
But I'm thinking about turning in my membership card. He's my only 3B on my fantasy team, he's got to pick it up.
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Apr 11, 2008 9:05 PM EDT
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Pick up
Alex Gordon.
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Apr 11, 2008 9:06 PM EDT
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The league's much deeper than that.
16 teams x 25 players.
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Apr 11, 2008 9:06 PM EDT
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Oh...
nevermind then.
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Apr 11, 2008 9:07 PM EDT
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He's still available
in one of my leagues.
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It's coming down pretty hard here, but it's an off and on type thing...at least that's what's been going on most of the evening.
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Apr 11, 2008 8:56 PM EDT
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If the'
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Gah...
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If they're gonna
call it good for the day... when would they do that?
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Apr 11, 2008 9:06 PM EDT
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I guess I'm out...
I'll check in later.
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Just in time too after the Pens
pulled one off. 2-0 heading to Ottawa Monday. Couldn't resist.
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Grabow in.
Talk about great timing... just got back to my computer. :)
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Grabow's good at holding runners scoreless
Let's hope that's true tonight.
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Runners held.
On to the bottom of the 6th.
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Apr 11, 2008 9:58 PM EDT
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Maholm 5 1/3 scoreless innings
No harm done. Good job.
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Apr 11, 2008 9:59 PM EDT
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Was because of the rain...
but they pulled him before he had a chance to implode.
That's always good.
Now it's up to the 'pen.
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Apr 11, 2008 10:00 PM EDT
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Psheww
listening to this on Reds radio. Thought we just gave up a 3-run homer.
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Apr 11, 2008 9:57 PM EDT
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Volquez gone...
might be a good thing... he was 3-hitting us.
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Bullpen seems to be
better than it was last year, all things considered.
* Throw out the 1-inning implosions by Marte and Capps. Those won't happen again.
* You have to expect to have one barely hanging in there guy and Meek is ours.
* Doumatrit has done well, but you can only expect so much. If you keep running him out there, he will get hit eventually.
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Apr 11, 2008 10:00 PM EDT
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Jason-ity!
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Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, ba-Bay
what exactly goes in between Jason and ity anyway?
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Jason-ity
nothing really. It's like Vinsanity (or Vinceanity, your choice) adapted to the name Jason.
I guess it's more like Ja-sanity, but yeah...
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Apr 11, 2008 10:08 PM EDT
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ohhhh
and here I was thinking it was Jason-sh****
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Apr 11, 2008 10:09 PM EDT
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lol
I guess that would work too...
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Apr 11, 2008 10:11 PM EDT
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Would it be fair if we declared Bay's slump over?
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Apr 11, 2008 10:06 PM EDT
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I'd give it
1 more game. Just to make sure.
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Anyone else reach for their
beer, heart medicine, or something when you hear that a ball is hit toward Rivas?
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Apr 11, 2008 10:14 PM EDT
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No...
of course, I see it after it happens, so no worries.
But I'd imagine (based on other sporting events/reactions) that I'd get all tense and ready to explode at a mistake.
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Grabow for Marte...
lefty for lefty.
What?
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Apr 11, 2008 10:17 PM EDT
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flamer v. soft-toss curve-baller?
by Trogluddite on
Apr 11, 2008 10:19 PM EDT
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And...
you pulled out the guy that was the last out last inning (LaRoche) to put the pitcher in that spot. Doesn't make sense... do you really expect Marte to pitch for 3 innings that you have to worry about his spot coming up in the order?
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Apr 11, 2008 10:22 PM EDT
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Nice...
load the bases
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See post above...
about Marte not imploding again.
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Apr 11, 2008 10:21 PM EDT
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Anyone getting a bad feeling about this?
bases loaded again.
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Apr 11, 2008 10:21 PM EDT
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That turned out well...
Encarnacion had the right idea though... "hit it towards Rivas".
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On a lighter note...
April 11, 2008 --
The new Yankee Stadium may be cursed!
A devilish Boston fan working on a concrete crew at the $1.3 billion stadium covertly buried a Red Sox T-shirt under what will become the visiting team's locker room to jinx the Yanks, two construction workers told The Post yesterday.
Kind of makes you wonder who buried what where when PNC Park was built. Any guesses?
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Apr 11, 2008 10:31 PM EDT
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Why bury anything?
It's not like you have to worry about the Pirates threatening for the WS...
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Apr 11, 2008 10:33 PM EDT
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How could the Yanks hire ANYONE
from Boston is what I what to know? I guess that's why it's important to have references (sarcasm)
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Apr 11, 2008 10:36 PM EDT
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Good point, but
maybe it was something to curse us for trading away Barry "sure I can hit .180 in the playoffs" Bonds.
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Apr 11, 2008 10:33 PM EDT
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Barry's steroids?
Is that what they buried?
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Apr 11, 2008 10:35 PM EDT
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24 pack of Iron City Beer and a pierogie!
Is what's buried I think!
by Bad Andy on
Apr 11, 2008 10:37 PM EDT
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I like that thought
have to buy some IC the next time I'm home.
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Apr 11, 2008 10:38 PM EDT
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Maybe Sid Bream
buried something after we traded him to the Braves
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Minkie at 3rd 1 out
Sanchez at the plate. Need that insurance run!
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Apr 11, 2008 10:40 PM EDT
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Hmmmm
Now what if Bixler had "froze" on third on that play? from the description the Reds announcers gave, a runner who broke on contact could have a good chance at scoring. The old "the defense has to do everything right."
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Apr 11, 2008 10:42 PM EDT
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Well Minkie is known to be the slowest runner
on the team so anything at the INFs give Minkie no chance to score
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Apr 11, 2008 10:44 PM EDT
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Smart move by Weathers
walking McLouth and Bay
Come on X-Man take them home
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X-Man
:(
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As usual the Bucs blew that one!
Now it's Mad-Capper time holding on to a 1-0 lead
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What could possibly go wrong?
10 extra points if you can name the cartoon character who used that line for one episode.
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I know Hopper
is young and 1-3 on the game and all...
but why would you pinch hit for him with Corey Patterson?
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So then
why not start him?
Is it a lefty/righty thing?
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We win!!!
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BUCS WIN BUCS WIN
RAISE THE JOLLY ROGER
1-2-3 goes the Reds!
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A 1-0 Pirates win...
who'd have thunk it?
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Great game by Maholm...
huge hit by Bay.
Grabow was huge in the 6th.
And the defense... got 2 more errors.
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Grabow gets the win,
Capps gets a save.
The only way our starting rotation may be able to get wins is to let Doumatrit or Meek pitch the first two, then come in for five or six innings.
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Provided
Meek & Dumatrait don't fall apart in the 1st 2 innings... which isn't much of a given.
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Okay, but given all the weird games we've had
the middle relievers have a better chance of getting the win than the starters.
Also, Ndog was 1/3 w/2 walks. Great on-base percentage for a lead-off guy, let the big lumber drive you in.
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Another Luis Rivas error:
Where is Don Kelly when you need him?
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Apr 11, 2008 10:58 PM EDT
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Isn't Rivas a ....
natural 2nd baseman and Gomez a natural shortstop? If so, what great managerial wisdom reverses their roles?
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Apr 11, 2008 11:00 PM EDT
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Rivas
must have some dirt on Russell.
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Apr 11, 2008 11:01 PM EDT
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Reds announcers
just noted that Bronson Arroyo has the worst starts to date of all Reds starters to date. Behind even Josh Fogg. Mmmm, that can't warm your heart if you're a Reds fan.
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Apr 11, 2008 10:59 PM EDT
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Ease Up
Say what you will about Fogg, ut the fact is he was a .500 pitcher on a piss-poor team.
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