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Pirates 1, Reds 0

This one was broken up by a couple of rain delays, and I watched chunks of other games and did some work while waiting for this one to get started again, so my thoughts here are a bit scattered:

-P- Paul Maholm looked like plain old Paul today - nothing special. Sometimes, though, that's good enough, and he kept the Reds off the board for 5.1 innings. The bullpen has quietly been pretty good for the last several days, and they took over and shut down the Reds tonight after Maholm left.

-P- I think it's safe to say Jason Bay's slump is over - he hit his second homer of the year tonight, his average is up to .281, and his OBP is well over .400. I don't know if that means the old Jason Bay is back, but I'm encouraged.

-P- Is it just me, or is it somewhat incredible to think there was ever a job fight between Nate McLouth and Nyjer Morgan? Putting aside the numbers for a second - well, actually, let me say once more that they've always, clearly favored McLouth, and then put them aside - I watch the games and am amazed that any professional talent evaluator could've watched both of these guys and decided Morgan was better. McLouth is smooth in all phases of the game - he has a sweet swing, he runs the bases intelligently and athletically, and he gets great jumps on defense and catches balls that are hit near him. Today, Morgan tried to run down a ball in the outfield that appeared to bounce off his knee, then tried to compensate with a ridiculous off-balance throw that didn't even seem to have a target. Later in the game, he tried to steal second and got tagged out when he slid past the bag.

Neither of these were the worst offenses against baseball I've ever seen. They weren't even the worst offenses against baseball I've seen this week. But it is very hard to imagine McLouth doing those things. That's not how he operates.

Many have argued that Morgan has hidden reserves of upside because he spent his youth playing hockey rather than concentrating on baseball. I've always disagreed with that argument, since Morgan has had five years in the minors to hone his craft and has never made a great leap forward.

Given Morgan's age, nothing has happened this year to change my assessment, but I now also think that Morgan's play is a terrible indictment of the Pirates' minor league system under Dave Littlefield. Morgan is, by every account I've ever read, a nice person who wants to succeed, and yet everything he does on the baseball field seems improvised. He's a legitimately great athlete, and he's one of the fastest guys to play for the Pirates this decade, but he can't steal bases, he can't hit, he doesn't know that it's better to make a controlled throw from the outfield than an uncontrolled one, and he runs around in the outfield like a student driver on Beechwood Boulevard. Where was the coaching with this guy? Making it up as he went along may have worked for Morgan in the minors, but his coaches should have known it wouldn't work at the highest level. There's a reason Major Harris didn't make it in the NFL. 

-P- Sometimes I feel bad about harping on the same guys over and over and over, but 0-for-3vas made another error today, and he also kept the Pirates from making another out - Ryan Doumit caught Brandon Phillips napping at second base and he stood up to throw for what should've been an easy out, but he couldn't throw because Rivas was nowhere near the bag. By the time Rivas figured out what was going on and got to second, Phillips had gotten back. Oh, and Rivas' line tonight? 0-for-3.

Every indication I've seen so far is that Rivas is exactly what his minor league stats the last two years suggested he was - a sub-replacement-level player. Neal Huntington should not have trouble finding someone better and it offends me that I have to continue watching this guy.

-P- Fun (or not-so-fun?) fact: Before tonight, the Pirates hadn't won a game while scoring two runs or less since the last game of the 2006 season.

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Great analysts tonight

Can we please end the Rivas experiment?....at least Bixler has the better glove although he can't hit worth (bleep). Jumpin' Jack should be off the DL by next weekend.

by Bad Andy on Apr 11, 2008 11:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Could it be?

If jason bay (a big if) is back then praise the lord. He had a good april and an all-star like may last year too then dropped a giant deuce for the rest of the season. I was mad when they wanted to trade Jack to the Tigers last year but I really realize now just how important he is to us. If you put the best of Bix and Rivas together they wouldn't equal Jack. With the exception of a few players, mostly Rivas and Morris, this team still looks good to me. If they can clean up all the stupid mistakes and all play pro ball at once they can still be a good team.

by gorillakilla34 on Apr 12, 2008 3:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Nyjer Morgan

is simply a bad baseball player as Charlie has been pointing out for quite a while now.

The team would be better with a healthy Chris Duffy as one of the backups instead of Nyjer Morgan.

I`ve been suspicious that a number of people in the organization want Nyjer Morgan to stay around as long as possible simply to have another African-American on the roster. I know my opinion may not be a popular one here, but I feel that one of the reasons McClouth has had trouble getting the respect he truly deserves is because there has been an assumption on the part of some that the Pirates have been too "white" in recent years, and that a black CF like Morgan would bring more excitement to the team with his athleticism. A couple of highlight reel catches last year notwithstanding, Morgan doesn`t play the OF well at all, and really doesn`t do much of anything on the baseball field that shows him to be a legit big leaguer.

by patthatt on Apr 12, 2008 9:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Qualification needed!

Those highlight reel catches were only highlight reel catches because Nyjer Morgan couldn't find a good route to a ball if you gave him one of those "TURN RIGHT AT NEXT STOP SIGN" GPS gadgets.

by matskralc on Apr 12, 2008 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Including

the catch that ended the game last night. There was certainly no need for Morgan to jump at the ball if he had taken a decent route to get there.

by Thunder on Apr 12, 2008 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

matskralc

Oh, I agree with you. I was saying more that the catches showed his athleticism. I think we`ve seen enough of his "Run Around Tike Redman" routine to know he`s not a good defensive OF at all.

We heard in spring training that he brings more "excitement" to the game than McClouth does. What does this mean? A more apt description would be that he "scares" fans with his poor route running in the OF and his lack of fundamentals on the basepaths.

We keep hearing about his "infectious enthusiasm," or something to this effect. I don`t care about this. It`s better than a bad attitude, of course, but I want someone who can play the game as a 4th OF. We don`t need a smiling cheerleader occupying a roster space. We need skilled baseball players; something that has been in short supply for many years now.

He said about his bat in spring training that "She is cold," or something similar. Yeah, it`s because he can`t hit-plain and simple.

Charlie: You make some good points. I can`t prove that I`m right. It`s just a feeling of mine, especially over the past few years. I just wonder if the reason that others in the game and the media generally ignore the Pirates on issues like this and others because they`ve been been off the competitive radar for 15 years.

With the number of African-American players in the game at single digit percentages in recent years, and with the Pirates not having almost any success in Latin America and Asia, I think they probably do feel a little pressure to show a more ethnically diverse roster.

There have been whispers before when the Pirates had all-white outfields for any extended period of time. When they foolishly brought in Brant Brown to complete a white starting OF, for example. I remember some people suggesting that Cam Bonifay was intentionally putting together as white a team as possible.

I`m sorry for hijacking this thread and perhaps talking about an issue that many people would rather avoid.

However, if the Pirates truly want to improve, then Nyjer Morgan`s career with them should be short.

by patthatt on Apr 12, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chris Duffy

Will he ever be healthy or have relations between he and the team bottomed out? Once it appeared he could become a fairly good player. Now it seems he's just another casualty of the Littlefield era.

by meandterry on Apr 12, 2008 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I definitely don't agree with that opinion. I can't prove it's not true, but I think if the Pirates were going out of their way to find opportunities for black guys, they'd have treated J.J. Davis and (at the beginning of his career) Ian Snell a lot better. (I'm certainly not saying that their treatment of Davis and Snell was racist or anything.)

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 12, 2008 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Morgan

The most baffling thing about Morgan is this oversliding nonsense. He got called out twice last Sept. when he had bags stolen, now I've seen him overslide twice already this year, although he got his hand back on the bag in time on the first occasion. And that's twice in ten games even though he's not playing much. Why on earth are they unable to deal with that problem?

Then there's the bunt play the other day, where he put his head down and sprinted for second without looking to see whether the bunt had hit the ground. He'll be 28 in early July and his baserunning skills are at a high school level.

by WTM on Apr 12, 2008 4:41 PM EDT reply actions  

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