Cincinnati vs. Pittsburgh, 13 April 2008
by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 13, 2008 10:30 AM EDT
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PrintCincinnati Reds at Pittsburgh Pirates, Apr 13, 2008 1:35 PM EDT
Johnny Cueto and Tom Gorzelanny, 1:35 PM. This one's fairly early for me here on the West Coast, but I'm going to try to get to work to watch it, because Cueto is just a phenomenon - in 13.1 innings pitched this year, he has 18 strikeouts and no walks. That's just amazing.
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The Reds
CF Freel
LF Hopper
RF Griffey
2 Phillips
1 Keppinger
3 Encarnacion
SS Castro
C Bako
P Cueto (1-0, 2.03)
Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...
The Buccos
CF McLouth
2 Rivas
LF Bay
C Doumit
RF Nady
1 Mientkiewicz
3 Bautista
SS Bixler
P Gorzelanny (0-1, 10.80)
Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...
Rivas
gets the start at 2nd base (at least it's not shortstop!), and bats 2nd...
Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...
Under Way
2 baserunners already--Gorzo misses a bunt
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 13, 2008 1:48 PM EDT reply actions
nice job to get out of the inning
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 13, 2008 1:53 PM EDT reply actions
the crowd got way too excited after that routine flyout by Rivas
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 13, 2008 1:56 PM EDT reply actions
Ollie P. Update
1st - hits a batter, then gives up a home run.
2nd - 2 singles, wild pitch, and then gets out of it.
3rd just started and he seems to be settling down
it's irritating to see Perez do well. Tracy and that coaching staff were horrible. Nady is fine and all, but for god's sake Perez has #1 stuff, but #2 mentality. look what coaching and having someone in front of him has done.
by Blyleven Curve Ball on Apr 13, 2008 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Cueto dominates as expected
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 13, 2008 1:58 PM EDT reply actions
Also, has anyone noticed how
our "saviors" are struggling at AAA? Pearce, Walker, and McCutcheon all were hitting poorly a few days ago. When 1 for 4 raises your batting average, its not good.
yeah
I saw that in the paper today, too. I think we can agree that it's good Nady is up here and pearce is down......at least for now
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 13, 2008 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Give it time
They'll step it up when the weather gets warm there.
What, it's like T-ball
and they need hot chocolate on the bench? Many MLB games to date have been under cold, rainy conditions
Well...
there's a nice inning
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 13, 2008 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Has to be lower than Morris's ERA
Can we shoot him yet? It's humane to put an old workhorse out of its misery.
The Pirates have outhit
their opponents just twice so far.
I know it's more or less irrelevant (it's the runs that matter), but given that they're 2-0 when they outhit the opponents, it'd be nice to see them get more hits every now & then.
Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...
A Doumit dinger? Forget Morris
Can we shoot the announcers?*
* All references to violence are figurative only.
walking the pitcher......
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 13, 2008 2:15 PM EDT reply actions
On a plus side
when the Buccos had Ian Snell walk Tom Glavine on "opening day", the Pirates ended up with the win.
Biased Fan
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double play
no worries there
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 13, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
better than him at short
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 13, 2008 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
That works...
given that he's a 2nd baseman.
Or at least he was with the Twins...
Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...
Did I hear that LaRoche now has the flu?
I guess they are holding Freddy out due to cold weather and his shoulder.
hah yeah
they said "he's been spending some time on the clubhouse couch"
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 13, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Sanchez clearly has shoulder problems all of his throws in the last few games have been weak. he bounced the last out last night.
by Blyleven Curve Ball on Apr 13, 2008 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Ollie P. Just Missed a 3-run homer
Not throwing it - hitting it just foul down the right field line in Shea.
And has a 4 run lead to boot.
I can only remember us having a 4 run lead in 1 game...last Sunday with Snell.
Freel
swings at everything. And makes contact with everything too.
Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...
He got 7 pitches
After a swinging strike on the first one, he fouled off the next 5 before the GIDP.
Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...
Cueto with another K
remember his first appearance of the season?
7 innings. 1 hit (a homer in the 6th inning). 10 Ks. No walks. He's approaching that again.
Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...
Nate walks
Cueto's first?
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 13, 2008 2:26 PM EDT reply actions
Got 22 Ks
(18 before, 4 today) before allowing his first walk of the season.
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Luis Rivas!
Wow!
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 13, 2008 2:30 PM EDT reply actions
that was a good at-bat
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 13, 2008 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
i think that 0 for 3vas needs to change to can't field at SSvas
by Blyleven Curve Ball on Apr 13, 2008 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Ollie P. HAD a 4 run lead
not any more...it's now 6-6 in the 4th. I see Willie Randolph has a slow hook today.
Jason Kendall
had one of the 2 2-rbi singles off of him in the 4th inning.
Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...
Gorzo looking sharp!
Quite the opposite from what happened Monday
era all the way down to..........
7.71
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 13, 2008 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
this is a real ball park. good comment. cinci, phili, and texas should be banned.
by Blyleven Curve Ball on Apr 13, 2008 2:37 PM EDT reply actions
Texas??
I know that Cinci and Philly are bandboxes, but Arlington is a legitimate size park. Weather influences aid HR's somewhat there, but it is a fair park.
sorry. thinking Houston. center is ridiculously deep, but left field is stupid-short.
by Blyleven Curve Ball on Apr 13, 2008 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Ex Pirates
If the Mets had a former Pirate catching...their game would have all ex-Pirates batteries. Suppan and Kendall for the Brewers...and Ollie for the Mets. Don't suppose the Mets will sign Cota just to keep the trivia buffs happy.
Really small crowd today
I know it's due to rain but I'm looking at 5K at the most.
If it was 43 degrees
and raining...I wouldn't sit out in that weather for 3 hours either. Not for this team.
I would, maybe...
if they played in Utah.
And had student friendly (aka cheap) tickets.
Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...
Of course...
I was stupid enough to sit through a snow-storm for a Utes football game... in a t-shirt.
And the game was over at half-time.
Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...
I might do that
once in that kind of weather...but I wouldn't make it a habit.
Yeah.
Seeing the team win is fun.
Trying to walk back to the dorms in a snow storm is no fun though...
Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...
i was there friday night and was surpirsed how many stayed after the delay. i live in NY, but i wish i was there now. maybe i have too much faith.
by Blyleven Curve Ball on Apr 13, 2008 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
It was warmer friday night
wasn't it?? At least before the delay. Today...knowing it's in the 40s...I'd have to think real hard before going.
Obviously
you're not the only one.
Most of Pittsburgh agrees with you.
Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...
$20 x number of empty seats = not resigning Snell/Gorzo/Doumit/McLouth/anyone when their contract is up.
the Yankees could be 0 - 161 with a 30 degree temp and 20,000 would show up.
by Blyleven Curve Ball on Apr 13, 2008 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Winning consistenly would change this
And it's been 15 years!
complain. pittsburgh whines about losing so they stay away. GO TO A GAME, the added revenue make is more likely that the club responds. what about fans POSITIVE attitude leads to team response? i live 300 miles away and i make it to 10+ games a year. PNC is cheap compared to most places.
by Blyleven Curve Ball on Apr 13, 2008 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
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I live farther away than that, and have never been to a Pirates game.
And, if I'm correct, I've only seen them on TV once... opening day 2 years ago.
I fail. :(
Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...
i certainly do not mean to offend out of towners. i'm just saying, fans have the power. drive the team, don't respond to it.
Nady is great. i take back what i implied about the Perez trade.
by Blyleven Curve Ball on Apr 13, 2008 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
No offense taken.
Was just saying.
And I agree completely. If the fans don't go, the team can't get better.
Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...
two summers ago i was in Snowbird, just east of Salt Lake for a family reunion. great week. i would live there in a heartbeat.
by Blyleven Curve Ball on Apr 13, 2008 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
Nice place.
Though it's like a barren desert for sports fans.
The Jazz and nothing else really, until you get down to the college level.
Biased Fan
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sports aside, when we stood at the top of the mountain after the tram ride i was stunned. we hiked down, my dad is 80 and my neices/nephews were
by Blyleven Curve Ball on Apr 13, 2008 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah.
It's an amazing place.
The views are awesome.
And their are mountains everywhere.
Great hikes.
And very peaceful.
Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...
I sat out in Martinsville for almost 4 hours
in that crap but being it was my 1st NASCAR race I ever attended it was worth it.
Good heads-up play by Minky
off an errant Bixler throw
Ollie P. Blows Up
Was out picking up my kid. Ollie out after 4 & 1/3, 6 earned runs, lots of hits and walks.
McLouth has NL-leading 8 doubles
Believe it or not THE Jose Castillo has 7!
But
we'd rather have Luis Rivas than Jose Castillo.
Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...
Let's get the brooms out!
.500 heading to SoCal!
X-Man 4HR 13 RBIs
His trade value is going up significantly
I'm surprised Gorzelanny is still in this game.
by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 13, 2008 3:25 PM EDT reply actions
whats his pitch count?
You're a Pirates fan?
by thegetupkids on Apr 13, 2008 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
he doesn't have great stuff
but he is locating really well....bat on the ball every time but it's always softly hit
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 13, 2008 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
The fact that the Reds are ending their lineup with Castro-Bako-pitcher certainly helps, though.
by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 13, 2008 3:27 PM EDT reply actions
holy cow
triple for bako. bullpen get ready
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 13, 2008 3:28 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah. The only reason that happened is because they weren't playing him deep.
by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 13, 2008 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Osoria
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 13, 2008 3:30 PM EDT reply actions
there goes the shutout
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 13, 2008 3:34 PM EDT reply actions
Possible shutout...
You knew it was too good to be true...
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is .500 after 12 games too good to be true?
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 13, 2008 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Why do they keep
putting Patterson in for Hopper? Is Hopper really that bad?
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Nice job, Osoria
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 13, 2008 3:37 PM EDT reply actions
Sigh of relief
Got out of that one without giving up too much.
Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...
If it remains at least a 4-run lead
when won't see Capps
Oh yeah
good point.
Non-save opportunity.
Yates? Grabow?
Biased Fan
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youd
figure thats something you dont see happen to the pirates too often
You're a Pirates fan?
by thegetupkids on Apr 13, 2008 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
thats
what i was thinking
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by thegetupkids on Apr 13, 2008 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Why did McLouth show bunt there? Weird.
by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 13, 2008 3:46 PM EDT reply actions
A bunt
that not only works, but also turns into a single for the pitcher.
Shocking.
Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...
Wait...
what happened? Bixler from 1st to 3rd on a bunt?
Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...
The first baseman just missed the catch.
by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 13, 2008 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
is it just me
or are there a lot of errors or just misplays in games that the pirates play in....for both teams
You're a Pirates fan?
I know Phillips is a great second baseman, but he hasn't played like it.
by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 13, 2008 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
J-BAY J-BAY J-BAY
9-1 WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
BAY
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 13, 2008 3:50 PM EDT reply actions
yes
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 13, 2008 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
To the person that asked...
my roommate is a Cards fan and he has been continually talking about how sloppy this series has been. It has made me want to hit him.
is this the same roomate
who said Morris was "decent?" although that makes a little sense if he's a cards fan
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 13, 2008 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Wasn't my roommate that said that...I don't think.
He's made fun of that trade for the past 9 months.
by hisjazziness on Apr 13, 2008 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
ok
someone said his roomate said that last time Morris pitched
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 13, 2008 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
WOW
awesome double play!
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 13, 2008 3:57 PM EDT reply actions
nice inning
defensively
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 13, 2008 4:00 PM EDT reply actions
Some excellent infield defense that inning.
by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 13, 2008 4:00 PM EDT reply actions
But
where has it been hiding for the first 11 and 7/9 games?
We've always had good Defense
it's just that Jumpin' Jack's been hurt
how's this for a new lineup?
Provided there's no injuries (which is asking too much)
2b Freddy
ss Jack
cf Nate
lf J Bay
c Doumit
rf X-Man
1b Minky/LaRoche
3b Baustita
What do you think?
Switch
Freddy and Jack...Jack has more speed.
I like it...
provided Jack can hit the ball when he gets back.
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Cordero's out there. Weird. Getting some work, I guess.
by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 13, 2008 4:03 PM EDT reply actions
Are you two out of your minds?
The lineup's fine the way it is. MAYBE switch Freddy and Nate. Wilson 2nd or even leadoff? Do you guys hate scoring runs or something???
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