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Pirates vs. Dodgers, 14 April 2008

Pittsburgh Pirates at Los Angeles Dodgers, Apr 14, 2008 10:10 PM EDT


10:10 PM, Zach Duke and Hiroki Kuroda

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Duke: 12.2 IP, 7 K, 2 BB, 2.13 ERA

Kuroda: 12.2 IP, 8 K, 2 BB, 2.13 ERA

The Dodgers are in fourth place, and while I'd love to chalk that up to their lack of confidence in their young talent, it's not that simple - yeah, Juan Pierre is off to a predictably terrible start and they'd be better with Matt Kemp out there every day, but Andruw Jones and Russell Martin have both been dreadful too. The real problem is that they're underperforming their runs scored and runs allowed; they'll probably climb over .500 eventually.

One thing to watch for this year - I've seen the Dodgers a little so far this year, and I don't know how representative this is, but Blake DeWitt was just awful at third. He probably started Spring Training as the Dodgers' fourth-string third baseman, but Nomar Garciaparra, Andy LaRoche and Tony Abreu all went down with injuries. DeWitt may be a good third baseman eventually, but he probably isn't ready; he spent most of 2007 all the way down in Class A.

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DeWitt actually started 2007 in A+ ball not AAA (typo?). DeWitt has actually made some very nice plays this year and is doing a fine job defensively. Offensively, he's done as well as Nomar or LaRoche would be expected to do minus some of the pop that LaRoche has in his bat. DeWitt is just a placeholder though, and anything the Dodgers get out of him is a plus.

Matt Kemp will be in the lineup today, and most likely against any LHP the Pirates throw at the Dodgers. Dodger fans are upset with all the playing time Pierre is getting. Both Pierre and Kemp have 28 ABs on the season.

Kuroda has been Ok so far, one very good outing and one subpar outing. His line drive rate is much lower than Duke's so far. Eventually those line drives will start going out of the stadium.

Game Win Probabilities:
Simulator: LAD 56.30%
LV Hilton: LAD 62.26%

vr, Xeifrank

by Xeifrank on Apr 14, 2008 7:31 PM EDT reply actions  

That was a typo - thanks for catching that.

Did you see DeWitt in the first Padres series? Ooh, that was ugly. I guess it's good to know he's not always like that.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 14, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Loads of young talent from the Dodgers

Either and Loney are breaking out in a big year. Furcal is having a hot start as well. Gotta keep them off the basepaths.

by Bad Andy on Apr 14, 2008 8:59 PM EDT reply actions  

I've decided

that I don't like the late starts. Even though I'm home for the home game, it starts way too late. It's homework time now... not 1st inning time.

Actually, I don't mind late starts. They're just not good when I have HW due tomorrow.

Biased Fan
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 14, 2008 10:10 PM EDT reply actions  

No LaRoche again. And Rivas at SS, batting 8th.

Andruw Jones is batting .100???

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 14, 2008 10:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Ah.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 14, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Huh. The Dodgers' announcers love DeWitt at third. Beware small sample sizes, I guess.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 14, 2008 10:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Indy update

Burnett pitched another scoreless inning for the save

That's 8 scoreless innings and Indy's 9-3

by Bad Andy on Apr 14, 2008 10:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Almost as good

as the Salt Lake Bees.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 14, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

...

Just FYI.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 14, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you go to a lot of games there?

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 14, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I haven't as of late.

Went to a couple last year.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 14, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

High-scoring? It's a pretty wacky offensive environment, I think.

Minor league ballparks are something that interest me way too much.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 14, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

Very high scoring.
The first games I remember going to ended with the scores 19-1 and 20-1. In favor of the Bees/Buzz/Stingers... whatever they were called then.

That, or the guys the Angels (& Twins back then) have in AAA are good at generating runs in some fashion.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 14, 2008 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Terrible at bat by Bay.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 14, 2008 10:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Hate Scully

Hate hate HATE him. Take a breath, blowhard. Not one second of dead air.

by azibuck on Apr 14, 2008 10:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah. It's impressive, but it's too much.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 14, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Love Scully

What a great voice, what great pacing - and he does his own color commentary. He barely has time to take a breath

by Trogluddite on Apr 14, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure

Didn't start listening to him until I bought MLB.com audio. Loved listening to him when the Giants (and Bonds) were in LA last year w/Bonds chasing Aaron.

by Trogluddite on Apr 14, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

...and one of the nicest people you'll ever meet in your life. I did some work for him when I lived in L.A. - beautiful home, wonderful man.

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Apr 14, 2008 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Off-topic, but

I'm really starting to hate this "z" button feature here.
Now, no matter what site I'm at, I'm hitting "z" to refresh it automatically... and getting pissed off when it doesn't do anything.

Biased Fan
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 14, 2008 10:19 PM EDT reply actions  

What is the "z" function? I've never used that. For me the comments always update automatically. You shouldn't have to press anything.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 14, 2008 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

It kinda

scrolls through them, I guess that's the word.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 14, 2008 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

But it can add up

He's w/15 pitches in the first inning - w/luck he gets six at this pace.

by Trogluddite on Apr 14, 2008 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

For the most part

if the Pirates' starter goes more than 6, something screwy is up (ignoring Snell).
Most of the times, that screwy thing is an implosion.

Biased Fan
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 14, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Over/Under on Runs given up by Morris tomorrow?

I just heard he's pitching. Guess we won't sweep this series. Does anyone have a phone number for Tanya Harding? We can start a collection

by Trogluddite on Apr 14, 2008 10:25 PM EDT reply actions  

DeWitt

When did you see him? When you say awful at third do you mean overall, or just defensively?

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 10:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Just defensively. At the first San Diego series a week or two ago DeWitt made a series of very bad plays.

Apparently they weren't representative.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 14, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, I actually agree with you, I think most fans are completely delusional about him.

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

By the way, Andrew, I'm glad you're here, I've been trying to email you for months, but my email to you doesn't go through.

I wanted to know what you thought of the idea of my doing another "Worst GM" tournament, now that Littlefield's gone. This would have been a better idea when the firing occurred, but it'd still be funny.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 14, 2008 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, i had some E-Mail issues for a while. Apparently you can't delete E-Mails when your inbox is full. I think it's time for another one since we've had some terrible ones get culled recently.

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

You want to do it, or do you want me to do it? because I'd be thrilled to. I'd give you credit for the idea, of course.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 14, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Go right ahead.

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

What is up w/Jose's power?

Two years ago, I recall him having a power flare-up near the end of the season. That raised expectations.

Last year, he had all the power of a Louis Rivas.

by Trogluddite on Apr 14, 2008 10:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Come on

He was a doubles machine and hit 15 HR.

by azibuck on Apr 14, 2008 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, 15 isn't a lot for 3b - we saw some guy

named Alex hit like 50 up here last year. Most of my questions though, are just based on vague impressions and not firm stats.

by Trogluddite on Apr 14, 2008 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haven't done any stat homework yet and I know the season is still young but does this team remind anyone of the '97 Lamont led Pirates?

by Pirates_of_the_Windy_City on Apr 14, 2008 10:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Ah Geez

Pirates are giving away a run!

by Bad Andy on Apr 14, 2008 10:39 PM EDT reply actions  

What? Why didn't Mientkiewicz throw there?

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 14, 2008 10:39 PM EDT reply actions  

They called a balk apparently.

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Ryan Doumit called his own pitches, that wouldn't have happened. :)

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 14, 2008 10:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Mild victory?

Sure, giving up a run is no fun. But in years past, Andru would hit a triple or something and ignite the dormant Dodger offense.

by Trogluddite on Apr 14, 2008 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Chocolate Sugarbombs are ROCKING tonight

Haven't checked your lineup (no, seriously), how you doin' Charlie?

Charlie and I are going h2h this week in the Bucs Dugout Fantasy league.

by azibuck on Apr 14, 2008 10:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Not so great so far.

I'm like a long-distance runner, though. I hang out behind you all week and then you check the league page on Monday and wonder what happened. So watch your back, Zibuck.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 14, 2008 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Duke?

Just walked away from my computer. Did Duke single?

by Pirates_of_the_Windy_City on Apr 14, 2008 10:47 PM EDT reply actions  

i mean

he is a real good hitter...we pinch hit with him

You're a Pirates fan?

by thegetupkids on Apr 14, 2008 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

just checking, went to the fridge for a beer.

by Pirates_of_the_Windy_City on Apr 14, 2008 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

concerned he was hit by a pitch

by Pirates_of_the_Windy_City on Apr 14, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Small sample size, yes...

but Duke now has a higher BA than LaRoche.
Just saying...

Biased Fan
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 14, 2008 10:50 PM EDT reply actions  

And

Andruw Jones.

Biased Fan
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 14, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good AB by McLouth

Worked it to a full count, fouled off several pitches. Hopefully those on deck and in the hole were watching.

by Trogluddite on Apr 14, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice play by Furcal, good effort by Duke.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 14, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply actions  

At least the Bucs are doing an excellent

job being patient. Kuroda will get knocked around sooner or later

by Bad Andy on Apr 14, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Wooooooooo go Pens!

Really, it has been the most ridiculous FSN Pittsburgh marathon for me tonight.

by EmmaOMG on Apr 14, 2008 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

LONEY'S HIT PARADE meets Bucs

James Loney has hit in 12 straight games as the Pirates arrive in L.A.

Straight from the front page of MLB.com. No mention of McLouth's 12 game hit streak, of course. Sorry if this has been pointed out already, I just arrived.

by camoseven on Apr 14, 2008 11:05 PM EDT reply actions  

I haven't seen it mentioned...

why would they mention the Pirates though? I mean, it's just the Pirates, right???...

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 14, 2008 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

i agree

i hate looking at espn and never being able to read anything on the pirates...except for that one article a year by crasnick or kurkjian

You're a Pirates fan?

by thegetupkids on Apr 14, 2008 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I must

check out the 1 article/year... don't think I've seen it. Ever.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 14, 2008 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 14, 2008 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

That throw must not have felt very good for Freddy.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 14, 2008 11:12 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm pretty sure there are no teams in the MLB with those colors.

We all know the only teams are the Red Sox, Yankees, Mets, Dodgers, Giants, Cubs, and whatever teams Randy Johnson and Roger Clemens are playing for this year.

by camoseven on Apr 14, 2008 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

just curious

im not watching the game but is duke still sporting the goatee?

You're a Pirates fan?

by thegetupkids on Apr 14, 2008 11:16 PM EDT reply actions  

That's pretty much the only way Rivas is ever going to get a hit, huh?

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 14, 2008 11:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Probably.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 14, 2008 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

way to get on base 0-3vas

by MarcB on Apr 14, 2008 11:19 PM EDT reply actions  

"A terrible bunt"

according to LA announcers. So glad we focused on fundamentals. I've seen better bunting from American League pitchers

by Trogluddite on Apr 14, 2008 11:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Un F'ing Believable

Kuroda with a double against a drawn in infield

by Bad Andy on Apr 14, 2008 11:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice...

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 14, 2008 11:32 PM EDT reply actions  

so whats with the pitchers getting all the hits

by MarcB on Apr 14, 2008 11:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Now my post on how Kuroda's inability to hit is going to kill is value is going to look dumb.

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 11:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Duke got out of that jam!

Can't afford another crummy inning though

by Bad Andy on Apr 14, 2008 11:37 PM EDT reply actions  

At least

he didn't let the Dodgers get out ahead.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 14, 2008 11:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Jason-ity...

0-3, 2 Ks.
Come on dude... we even thought you were back.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 14, 2008 11:42 PM EDT reply actions  

ack!

that looked like the jason bay of last year

by johnnycuff on Apr 14, 2008 11:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, that happened quickly. Nice.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 14, 2008 11:44 PM EDT reply actions  

X-Man!

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 14, 2008 11:44 PM EDT reply actions  

X-man!

Can he be player of the week twice in a row?

by Trogluddite on Apr 14, 2008 11:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Dodgers Announcers Making an Interesting Point

Last 15 years Pirates minor league system has a big shortfall in big players. The stars we have we've traded for.

by Trogluddite on Apr 14, 2008 11:46 PM EDT reply actions  

the x-man delivers

by MarcB on Apr 14, 2008 11:46 PM EDT reply actions  

almost

nice hit by bautista. that's a solid home run in a lot of parks

by johnnycuff on Apr 14, 2008 11:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Scully: "You know, it is hard to pitch in the big leagues, but it is especially hard if you don't strike anybody out."

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 14, 2008 11:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed completely.

It has seemed that way all season (yes, I know we're only on game 13 right now0.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 15, 2008 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rivas

ends the inning.
As a shortstop, nonetheless.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 15, 2008 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well let's get that run back

Nate's due for a hit, right?

Dodger bullpen can't be too good, right?

by Bad Andy on Apr 15, 2008 12:03 AM EDT reply actions  

I wait

till the play is over.
Most of the time, at least.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 15, 2008 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Duke's done now.

An inning too late though.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 15, 2008 12:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Stuck

watching ESPN gamecast

Gah.

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Apr 15, 2008 12:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Beimel...

ex-Pirate? Seems like a familiar name.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 15, 2008 12:08 AM EDT reply actions  

yeah

and former duquesne duke none the less

by johnnycuff on Apr 15, 2008 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice guy

signed a ball for me @ dodger stadium while w/Bucs.

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Apr 15, 2008 12:09 AM EDT reply actions  

In the interest of NOT jinxing

Nate is NOT due

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Apr 15, 2008 12:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Wouldn't be

the first time.

I suck, apparently.

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Apr 15, 2008 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, well...

Thanks for not raking a noob over the coals.

'Nite, all.

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Apr 15, 2008 12:15 AM EDT reply actions  

thanks for the heads up

always good to see the towel on national television

by johnnycuff on Apr 15, 2008 12:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Nope

I really don't think that Jason-ity is "back".

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 15, 2008 12:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Anyhow...

I'm done. 7:30 class tomorrow, have to get to bed.
Nite.
Go Buccos!

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 15, 2008 12:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Man, Broxton and then Saito. This is why you don't want to get one run behind against the Dodgers.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 15, 2008 12:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Oh man

had to sign on to see what everyone is saying about that

by DITO on Apr 15, 2008 12:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Yes

raise the potted plant!!!

by bolton on Apr 15, 2008 12:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Nate's Sack

Nate might have the biggest ballsac in the major leagues right now, if that was a statistic, he'd surely be kicking ass and taking names

by OpiateOfTheMasses on Apr 15, 2008 1:46 AM EDT reply actions  

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