Pirates vs. Dodgers, 14 April 2008
Pittsburgh Pirates @ Los Angeles Dodgers
10:10 PM, Zach Duke and Hiroki Kuroda.
Check this out:
Duke: 12.2 IP, 7 K, 2 BB, 2.13 ERA
Kuroda: 12.2 IP, 8 K, 2 BB, 2.13 ERA
The Dodgers are in fourth place, and while I'd love to chalk that up to their lack of confidence in their young talent, it's not that simple - yeah, Juan Pierre is off to a predictably terrible start and they'd be better with Matt Kemp out there every day, but Andruw Jones and Russell Martin have both been dreadful too. The real problem is that they're underperforming their runs scored and runs allowed; they'll probably climb over .500 eventually.
One thing to watch for this year - I've seen the Dodgers a little so far this year, and I don't know how representative this is, but Blake DeWitt was just awful at third. He probably started Spring Training as the Dodgers' fourth-string third baseman, but Nomar Garciaparra, Andy LaRoche and Tony Abreu all went down with injuries. DeWitt may be a good third baseman eventually, but he probably isn't ready; he spent most of 2007 all the way down in Class A.
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DeWitt actually started 2007 in A+ ball not AAA (typo?). DeWitt has actually made some very nice plays this year and is doing a fine job defensively. Offensively, he's done as well as Nomar or LaRoche would be expected to do minus some of the pop that LaRoche has in his bat. DeWitt is just a placeholder though, and anything the Dodgers get out of him is a plus.
Matt Kemp will be in the lineup today, and most likely against any LHP the Pirates throw at the Dodgers. Dodger fans are upset with all the playing time Pierre is getting. Both Pierre and Kemp have 28 ABs on the season.
Kuroda has been Ok so far, one very good outing and one subpar outing. His line drive rate is much lower than Duke's so far. Eventually those line drives will start going out of the stadium.
Game Win Probabilities:
Simulator: LAD 56.30%
LV Hilton: LAD 62.26%
vr, Xeifrank
by Xeifrank on
Apr 14, 2008 7:31 PM EDT
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That was a typo - thanks for catching that.
Did you see DeWitt in the first Padres series? Ooh, that was ugly. I guess it's good to know he's not always like that.
by Charlie on
Apr 14, 2008 8:58 PM EDT
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Loads of young talent from the Dodgers
Either and Loney are breaking out in a big year. Furcal is having a hot start as well. Gotta keep them off the basepaths.
by Bad Andy on
Apr 14, 2008 8:59 PM EDT
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I've decided
that I don't like the late starts. Even though I'm home for the home game, it starts way too late. It's homework time now... not 1st inning time.
Actually, I don't mind late starts. They're just not good when I have HW due tomorrow.
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by UtesFan89 on
Apr 14, 2008 10:10 PM EDT
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No LaRoche again. And Rivas at SS, batting 8th.
Andruw Jones is batting .100???
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by UtesFan89 on
Apr 14, 2008 10:11 PM EDT
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Ah.
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by UtesFan89 on
Apr 14, 2008 10:12 PM EDT
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Huh. The Dodgers' announcers love DeWitt at third. Beware small sample sizes, I guess.
by Charlie on
Apr 14, 2008 10:12 PM EDT
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Indy update
Burnett pitched another scoreless inning for the save
That's 8 scoreless innings and Indy's 9-3
by Bad Andy on
Apr 14, 2008 10:13 PM EDT
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Almost as good
as the Salt Lake Bees.
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by UtesFan89 on
Apr 14, 2008 10:14 PM EDT
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...
Just FYI.
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by UtesFan89 on
Apr 14, 2008 10:14 PM EDT
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I haven't as of late.
Went to a couple last year.
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by UtesFan89 on
Apr 14, 2008 10:16 PM EDT
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High-scoring? It's a pretty wacky offensive environment, I think.
Minor league ballparks are something that interest me way too much.
by Charlie on
Apr 14, 2008 10:20 PM EDT
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Yeah.
Very high scoring.
The first games I remember going to ended with the scores 19-1 and 20-1. In favor of the Bees/Buzz/Stingers... whatever they were called then.
That, or the guys the Angels (& Twins back then) have in AAA are good at generating runs in some fashion.
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by UtesFan89 on
Apr 14, 2008 10:22 PM EDT
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Hate Scully
Hate hate HATE him. Take a breath, blowhard. Not one second of dead air.
by azibuck on
Apr 14, 2008 10:16 PM EDT
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Yeah. It's impressive, but it's too much.
by Charlie on
Apr 14, 2008 10:19 PM EDT
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Love Scully
What a great voice, what great pacing - and he does his own color commentary. He barely has time to take a breath
by Trogluddite on
Apr 14, 2008 10:19 PM EDT
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Not sure
Didn't start listening to him until I bought MLB.com audio. Loved listening to him when the Giants (and Bonds) were in LA last year w/Bonds chasing Aaron.
by Trogluddite on
Apr 14, 2008 10:23 PM EDT
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...and one of the nicest people you'll ever meet in your life. I did some work for him when I lived in L.A. - beautiful home, wonderful man.
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST
by cocktailsfor2 on
Apr 14, 2008 10:32 PM EDT
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Off-topic, but
I'm really starting to hate this "z" button feature here.
Now, no matter what site I'm at, I'm hitting "z" to refresh it automatically... and getting pissed off when it doesn't do anything.
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by UtesFan89 on
Apr 14, 2008 10:19 PM EDT
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What is the "z" function? I've never used that. For me the comments always update automatically. You shouldn't have to press anything.
by Charlie on
Apr 14, 2008 10:21 PM EDT
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It kinda
scrolls through them, I guess that's the word.
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by UtesFan89 on
Apr 14, 2008 10:22 PM EDT
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Dang - 9 pitches or so to 1st batter
by Trogluddite on
Apr 14, 2008 10:22 PM EDT
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But it can add up
He's w/15 pitches in the first inning - w/luck he gets six at this pace.
by Trogluddite on
Apr 14, 2008 10:29 PM EDT
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For the most part
if the Pirates' starter goes more than 6, something screwy is up (ignoring Snell).
Most of the times, that screwy thing is an implosion.
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by UtesFan89 on
Apr 14, 2008 10:30 PM EDT
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Over/Under on Runs given up by Morris tomorrow?
I just heard he's pitching. Guess we won't sweep this series. Does anyone have a phone number for Tanya Harding? We can start a collection
by Trogluddite on
Apr 14, 2008 10:25 PM EDT
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DeWitt
When did you see him? When you say awful at third do you mean overall, or just defensively?
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by Andrew on
Apr 14, 2008 10:25 PM EDT
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Just defensively. At the first San Diego series a week or two ago DeWitt made a series of very bad plays.
Apparently they weren't representative.
by Charlie on
Apr 14, 2008 10:27 PM EDT
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No, I actually agree with you, I think most fans are completely delusional about him.
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by Andrew on
Apr 14, 2008 10:28 PM EDT
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By the way, Andrew, I'm glad you're here, I've been trying to email you for months, but my email to you doesn't go through.
I wanted to know what you thought of the idea of my doing another "Worst GM" tournament, now that Littlefield's gone. This would have been a better idea when the firing occurred, but it'd still be funny.
by Charlie on
Apr 14, 2008 10:29 PM EDT
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Yeah, i had some E-Mail issues for a while. Apparently you can't delete E-Mails when your inbox is full. I think it's time for another one since we've had some terrible ones get culled recently.
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by Andrew on
Apr 14, 2008 10:30 PM EDT
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You want to do it, or do you want me to do it? because I'd be thrilled to. I'd give you credit for the idea, of course.
by Charlie on
Apr 14, 2008 10:31 PM EDT
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Go right ahead.
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by Andrew on
Apr 14, 2008 10:33 PM EDT
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Jose!
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by UtesFan89 on
Apr 14, 2008 10:33 PM EDT
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Wow. The Bucs are getting it done with the long ball recently.
by Charlie on
Apr 14, 2008 10:32 PM EDT
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Jose waited on that curve ball
and WAILED on it.
by Bad Andy on
Apr 14, 2008 10:34 PM EDT
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What is up w/Jose's power?
Two years ago, I recall him having a power flare-up near the end of the season. That raised expectations.
Last year, he had all the power of a Louis Rivas.
by Trogluddite on
Apr 14, 2008 10:34 PM EDT
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Come on
He was a doubles machine and hit 15 HR.
by azibuck on
Apr 14, 2008 10:37 PM EDT
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Well, 15 isn't a lot for 3b - we saw some guy
named Alex hit like 50 up here last year. Most of my questions though, are just based on vague impressions and not firm stats.
by Trogluddite on
Apr 14, 2008 10:39 PM EDT
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Haven't done any stat homework yet and I know the season is still young but does this team remind anyone of the '97 Lamont led Pirates?
by Pirates_of_the_Windy_City on
Apr 14, 2008 10:35 PM EDT
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Wouldn't know...
...was in ole' Virginnie
by Trogluddite on
Apr 14, 2008 10:38 PM EDT
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Ah Geez
Pirates are giving away a run!
by Bad Andy on
Apr 14, 2008 10:39 PM EDT
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What? Why didn't Mientkiewicz throw there?
by Charlie on
Apr 14, 2008 10:39 PM EDT
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They called a balk apparently.
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by Andrew on
Apr 14, 2008 10:40 PM EDT
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If Ryan Doumit called his own pitches, that wouldn't have happened. :)
by Charlie on
Apr 14, 2008 10:40 PM EDT
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Mild victory?
Sure, giving up a run is no fun. But in years past, Andru would hit a triple or something and ignite the dormant Dodger offense.
by Trogluddite on
Apr 14, 2008 10:42 PM EDT
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Chocolate Sugarbombs are ROCKING tonight
Haven't checked your lineup (no, seriously), how you doin' Charlie?
Charlie and I are going h2h this week in the Bucs Dugout Fantasy league.
by azibuck on
Apr 14, 2008 10:44 PM EDT
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Not so great so far.
I'm like a long-distance runner, though. I hang out behind you all week and then you check the league page on Monday and wonder what happened. So watch your back, Zibuck.
by Charlie on
Apr 14, 2008 10:48 PM EDT
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Duke?
Just walked away from my computer. Did Duke single?
by Pirates_of_the_Windy_City on
Apr 14, 2008 10:47 PM EDT
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i mean
he is a real good hitter...we pinch hit with him
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by thegetupkids on
Apr 14, 2008 10:49 PM EDT
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just checking, went to the fridge for a beer.
by Pirates_of_the_Windy_City on
Apr 14, 2008 10:50 PM EDT
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concerned he was hit by a pitch
by Pirates_of_the_Windy_City on
Apr 14, 2008 10:53 PM EDT
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Small sample size, yes...
but Duke now has a higher BA than LaRoche.
Just saying...
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by UtesFan89 on
Apr 14, 2008 10:50 PM EDT
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And
Andruw Jones.
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Apr 14, 2008 10:54 PM EDT
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Good AB by McLouth
Worked it to a full count, fouled off several pitches. Hopefully those on deck and in the hole were watching.
by Trogluddite on
Apr 14, 2008 10:53 PM EDT
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Bay worked it too a full count
yet Furcal made a very nice play
by Bad Andy on
Apr 14, 2008 10:54 PM EDT
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Nice play by Furcal, good effort by Duke.
by Charlie on
Apr 14, 2008 10:54 PM EDT
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At least the Bucs are doing an excellent
job being patient. Kuroda will get knocked around sooner or later
by Bad Andy on
Apr 14, 2008 10:57 PM EDT
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anyone see the pens game?
pretty sweet
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by thegetupkids on
Apr 14, 2008 11:01 PM EDT
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Wooooooooo go Pens!
Really, it has been the most ridiculous FSN Pittsburgh marathon for me tonight.
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Apr 14, 2008 11:09 PM EDT
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LONEY'S HIT PARADE meets Bucs
James Loney has hit in 12 straight games as the Pirates arrive in L.A.
Straight from the front page of MLB.com. No mention of McLouth's 12 game hit streak, of course. Sorry if this has been pointed out already, I just arrived.
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Apr 14, 2008 11:05 PM EDT
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I haven't seen it mentioned...
why would they mention the Pirates though? I mean, it's just the Pirates, right???...
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by UtesFan89 on
Apr 14, 2008 11:06 PM EDT
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i agree
i hate looking at espn and never being able to read anything on the pirates...except for that one article a year by crasnick or kurkjian
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by thegetupkids on
Apr 14, 2008 11:11 PM EDT
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I must
check out the 1 article/year... don't think I've seen it. Ever.
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by UtesFan89 on
Apr 14, 2008 11:12 PM EDT
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I agree.
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Apr 14, 2008 11:11 PM EDT
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That throw must not have felt very good for Freddy.
by Charlie on
Apr 14, 2008 11:12 PM EDT
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The guys in gray, black and yellow are doing a decent job on James Loney.
by azibuck on
Apr 14, 2008 11:15 PM EDT
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I'm pretty sure there are no teams in the MLB with those colors.
We all know the only teams are the Red Sox, Yankees, Mets, Dodgers, Giants, Cubs, and whatever teams Randy Johnson and Roger Clemens are playing for this year.
by camoseven on
Apr 14, 2008 11:21 PM EDT
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just curious
im not watching the game but is duke still sporting the goatee?
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by thegetupkids on
Apr 14, 2008 11:16 PM EDT
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That's pretty much the only way Rivas is ever going to get a hit, huh?
by Charlie on
Apr 14, 2008 11:18 PM EDT
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Probably.
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Apr 14, 2008 11:19 PM EDT
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"A terrible bunt"
according to LA announcers. So glad we focused on fundamentals. I've seen better bunting from American League pitchers
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Apr 14, 2008 11:21 PM EDT
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Andruw Jones is due up
Can't wait to see him fail some more.
by camoseven on
Apr 14, 2008 11:23 PM EDT
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Stand up triple
Does anyone know if camoseven is a dodger mole?
by Trogluddite on
Apr 14, 2008 11:26 PM EDT
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Un F'ing Believable
Kuroda with a double against a drawn in infield
by Bad Andy on
Apr 14, 2008 11:30 PM EDT
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Nice...
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Apr 14, 2008 11:32 PM EDT
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so whats with the pitchers getting all the hits
by MarcB on
Apr 14, 2008 11:32 PM EDT
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The rest of the players on both teams
suck.
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Apr 14, 2008 11:33 PM EDT
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Now my post on how Kuroda's inability to hit is going to kill is value is going to look dumb.
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by Andrew on
Apr 14, 2008 11:33 PM EDT
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Duke is gonna fall apart here
We need a DP in the worst way
by Bad Andy on
Apr 14, 2008 11:34 PM EDT
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I was just about to post about the wheels comin off.
Get him out of there, please!
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Apr 14, 2008 11:35 PM EDT
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Duke's good for 50 more pitches at least
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Apr 14, 2008 11:36 PM EDT
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And 5-6 runs.
For the Dodgers.
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Apr 14, 2008 11:36 PM EDT
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Duke got out of that jam!
Can't afford another crummy inning though
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Apr 14, 2008 11:37 PM EDT
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At least
he didn't let the Dodgers get out ahead.
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Apr 14, 2008 11:38 PM EDT
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probably
he's been effecient tonight.
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Apr 14, 2008 11:40 PM EDT
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Jason-ity...
0-3, 2 Ks.
Come on dude... we even thought you were back.
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Apr 14, 2008 11:42 PM EDT
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ack!
that looked like the jason bay of last year
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Apr 14, 2008 11:42 PM EDT
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X-Man!
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Apr 14, 2008 11:44 PM EDT
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X-man!
Can he be player of the week twice in a row?
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Apr 14, 2008 11:44 PM EDT
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Dodgers Announcers Making an Interesting Point
Last 15 years Pirates minor league system has a big shortfall in big players. The stars we have we've traded for.
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Apr 14, 2008 11:46 PM EDT
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Man that's too bad about Joey Bats
2 warning track shots and a long HR
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almost
nice hit by bautista. that's a solid home run in a lot of parks
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Apr 14, 2008 11:47 PM EDT
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Duke is getting shelled now
Warm up the bullpen somebody
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Apr 14, 2008 11:51 PM EDT
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Scully: "You know, it is hard to pitch in the big leagues, but it is especially hard if you don't strike anybody out."
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Apr 14, 2008 11:51 PM EDT
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Russell doesn't seem to know when a starter is done.
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Apr 15, 2008 12:00 AM EDT
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Agreed completely.
It has seemed that way all season (yes, I know we're only on game 13 right now0.
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Apr 15, 2008 12:01 AM EDT
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Rivas
ends the inning.
As a shortstop, nonetheless.
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Apr 15, 2008 12:02 AM EDT
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Well let's get that run back
Nate's due for a hit, right?
Dodger bullpen can't be too good, right?
by Bad Andy on
Apr 15, 2008 12:03 AM EDT
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GAH!! You people are walking, commenting jinxes!
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Apr 15, 2008 12:04 AM EDT
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I wait
till the play is over.
Most of the time, at least.
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Apr 15, 2008 12:05 AM EDT
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Duke's done now.
An inning too late though.
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by UtesFan89 on
Apr 15, 2008 12:07 AM EDT
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How about that respect for Morgan. Torre is blowing his only lefty on him!
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Apr 15, 2008 12:07 AM EDT
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crazy
i guess torre has to compete with larussa now that he's in the NL
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Apr 15, 2008 12:12 AM EDT
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Stuck
watching ESPN gamecast
Gah.
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST
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Apr 15, 2008 12:07 AM EDT
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Beimel...
ex-Pirate? Seems like a familiar name.
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by UtesFan89 on
Apr 15, 2008 12:08 AM EDT
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yeah
and former duquesne duke none the less
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Apr 15, 2008 12:10 AM EDT
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Nice guy
signed a ball for me @ dodger stadium while w/Bucs.
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST
by cocktailsfor2 on
Apr 15, 2008 12:09 AM EDT
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In the interest of NOT jinxing
Nate is NOT due
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST
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Apr 15, 2008 12:11 AM EDT
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Wouldn't be
the first time.
I suck, apparently.
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST
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Apr 15, 2008 12:14 AM EDT
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Ah, well...
Thanks for not raking a noob over the coals.
'Nite, all.
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST
by cocktailsfor2 on
Apr 15, 2008 12:15 AM EDT
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thanks for the heads up
always good to see the towel on national television
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Apr 15, 2008 12:18 AM EDT
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Nope
I really don't think that Jason-ity is "back".
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Apr 15, 2008 12:28 AM EDT
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Anyhow...
I'm done. 7:30 class tomorrow, have to get to bed.
Nite.
Go Buccos!
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Apr 15, 2008 12:41 AM EDT
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Man, Broxton and then Saito. This is why you don't want to get one run behind against the Dodgers.
by Charlie on
Apr 15, 2008 12:46 AM EDT
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Charlie: Is it you or your brother that went to W & L?
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Apr 15, 2008 12:46 AM EDT
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He's pinchrunning for Bautista. Any chance of having him steal?
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Apr 15, 2008 12:54 AM EDT
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Got it. Sorry. I'm doing like three things at once. :)
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Apr 15, 2008 12:54 AM EDT
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McLouth...you stink and are in danger of losing your job to Nyjer.
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Apr 15, 2008 12:57 AM EDT
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hisjazziness: You are a motivator.
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Apr 15, 2008 12:59 AM EDT
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Yeah, that was kind of amazing, wasn't it? I was about to post how I expected Nate to come through...then thought the better of it.
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I was going to come on
and post that he's about to line one in the gap, but luckily I didn't make it in time.
by DITO on
Apr 15, 2008 1:02 AM EDT
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Oh man
had to sign on to see what everyone is saying about that
by DITO on
Apr 15, 2008 12:59 AM EDT
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You see Doug jawing on that play?
by pirateinvirginia on
Apr 15, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
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Nate's Sack
Nate might have the biggest ballsac in the major leagues right now, if that was a statistic, he'd surely be kicking ass and taking names
by OpiateOfTheMasses on
Apr 15, 2008 1:46 AM EDT
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