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Pirates vs. Dodgers, 16 April 2008

Pittsburgh Pirates at Los Angeles Dodgers, Apr 16, 2008 10:10 PM EDT


Paul Maholm vs. Brad Penny, 10:10 PM. Here's the box.

A couple of links:

-P- Chris Duffy got a cortisone shot for his shoulder pain. It sounds like he won't be back for a while. Barring a sudden change, there obviously isn't going to be a starting job waiting for him, but given the way Nyjer Morgan has played so far, I could see the Pirates putting Duffy in Morgan's place once Duffy has proven he's healthy at AAA. Of course, until he's well enough to throw, that will all remain in the realm of speculation.

-P- Also from the Post-Gazette, here's an article about the Pirates' improved patience this year. We haven't really reached the point where comparisons between this year and last really mean a lot, but things do seem different. Having Ryan Doumit and Nate McLouth in place of Ronny Paulino and the speedy, slap-hitting outfielder du jour certainly helps, as does the improved play of Jason Bay, who's been drawing walks like crazy. The Pirates' hitting hasn't been utterly painful to watch this year, either; you can turn on a game and be reasonably confident you're not going to see 18 consecutive first-pitch grounders to second.

-P- A bit of minor league news: 2006 second-round pick Mike Felix somehow struck out seven batters and walked none in a three-inning stint yesterday for Hickory. I'd had Felix in my "dead to me" list (right between Jimmy Fallon and Bob Feller) after his terrible performance in 2007, but I'm going to have to move him to "on notice." Felix now has 13 strikeouts and just two walks and four hits in nine innings pitched. Keep an eye on him. 

 

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I can’t believe anybody even writes words in actual newspapers about Chris Duffy anymore. Man. I almost feel bad for the guy.

Oh, and quality Colbert reference.

by EmmaOMG on Apr 16, 2008 7:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Mike Felix

I guess I wonder whether age 22 at Hickory is ‘age-appropriate’. Considering that he’s just a couple of years out of college…and that he wasn’t a full time pitcher in college…maybe he’s at a reasonable level.

Could it also be that with the new instructional team…someone actually figured out what he was doing wrong?

by Thunder on Apr 16, 2008 8:54 PM EDT reply actions  

I think age-appropriateness is the last thing Felix needs to worry about. His first step was just getting the ball across the plate, and apparently he has done that.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 16, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh wow, Nomar’s back.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 16, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Scully might as well be reading straight from Kovacevic’s article right now.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 16, 2008 10:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Which one? I didn’t see it.

I was referring to DK’s article about patience, which Scully was liberally borrowing from.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 16, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

On Bay

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08107/873703-194.stm

I had the sound down until I saw your comment, and when I turned it up he was saying “His OPS was .961, second in Major League Baseball to Manny Ramirez of the Boston Red Sox” which is in the article.

by azibuck on Apr 16, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

At least we know Scully’s not illiterate.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 16, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

On a positive note

Maholm’s thrown nothing but strikes so far. Okay, so he just threw his first ball.

by Trogluddite on Apr 16, 2008 10:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Tough luck there with the single off the leg.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 16, 2008 10:22 PM EDT reply actions  

UGH!

Starting to look like batting practice for the Dodgers

by Bad Andy on Apr 16, 2008 10:23 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s not, though. Nobody’s really hit the ball all that hard.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 16, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Kemp fell down, Bautista missed the tag.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 16, 2008 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fortunately,

no highlights are posted on gameday yet – I’m not sure I could stomach it.

by Trogluddite on Apr 16, 2008 10:26 PM EDT reply actions  

“You talk about Paul being hit by Hurricane Katrina, he’s being hit by Hurricane Dodgers here tonight.”

I like Scully less and less

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 16, 2008 10:26 PM EDT reply actions  

i cant stand him either

by MarcB on Apr 16, 2008 10:27 PM EDT reply actions  

we can't even

do a rundown play properly. Bixler should have been moving toward 3rd after tossing it to Bautista instead of standing like a bump on a log.

by Thunder on Apr 16, 2008 10:30 PM EDT reply actions  

He was looking back. I think he was concerned about who was covering second while Kent ran in there.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 16, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah,

while NO ONE was at 3rd.

by Thunder on Apr 16, 2008 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

All 3 runs are earned runs

according to MLB.com’s box score. Chintzy runs. But still earned and charged to Maholm.

by Trogluddite on Apr 16, 2008 10:31 PM EDT reply actions  

This is like a thousand little cuts.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 16, 2008 10:33 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm sorry

but if a pitch hits a catcher in the center of the glove, it should never be a wild pitch. Not that the scorer’s decision is the worst of things this inning.

by Thunder on Apr 16, 2008 10:34 PM EDT reply actions  

No. But you’re right. Maholm’s pitch wasn’t exactly on target, but it did go right into the center of Paulino’s glove.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 16, 2008 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doumit should be playing!

by MarcB on Apr 16, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply actions  

they said doumit might be coming down with what laroche had…other than that I completely agree

by richmondpirate on Apr 16, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah richmond va, i’m in grad school there

by richmondpirate on Apr 16, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I will be moving there in about two months…whats your connection to Rich.?

by richmondpirate on Apr 16, 2008 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I went to William and Mary. My junior and senior years, my girlfriend at the time lived in the fan and was a grad student at VCU. She DJ’ed at U of R’s radio station, so I would go there to DJ with her. I like Richmond a lot – trips to Plan 9 were a big thing for me in college.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 16, 2008 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea this is my first year living here but I grew up in Norfolk so I knew it pretty well. It’s a pretty straight city

by richmondpirate on Apr 16, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

i live right off midlothian turnpike, so I’m real close ot you

by richmondpirate on Apr 16, 2008 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Drinks are on me

If the Pirates make the playoffs

by 19maz60 on Apr 16, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

2 runs now unearned

Bautista got charged w/an error – missing the tag? – and so two runs are taken off Maholm’s back.

by Trogluddite on Apr 16, 2008 10:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Not that scorers’ calls are a big deal, but Maholm did not deserve to absorb four runs there.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 16, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

a break for the pirates!

by MarcB on Apr 16, 2008 10:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, at least we’re getting some of it back.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 16, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

i will agree once i see a pirate come across home plate

by MarcB on Apr 16, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Smalls

McCutchen homered, his 3rd.

Brian Friday is hitting .350/.469/.994. No HR but 9 BB in 11 games.

Todd Redmond went 7 IP, 4H, 4K, 0 BB.

Matt Wieters is in a 1/6 slump and his OPS is down to 1.394.

by azibuck on Apr 16, 2008 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Hmmmm.

He’s gonna’ be out by a mile? When does aggressive base running become just plain dumb?

by Trogluddite on Apr 16, 2008 10:44 PM EDT reply actions  

doug told me that it will work in the long run

by MarcB on Apr 16, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

What the… Nady was just jogging there. Also he ran through Beasley’s stop sign.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 16, 2008 10:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Is it me...

or is it looking like they mailed it in tonight?? They’ve already committed about 3 mental errors in an inning and a half.

by Thunder on Apr 16, 2008 10:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, so much for the Dodgers not hitting the ball hard.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 16, 2008 10:47 PM EDT reply actions  

can we start over?? jesus..

by MarcB on Apr 16, 2008 10:47 PM EDT reply actions  

damn it

does everyone here have mlb tv??

by DITO on Apr 16, 2008 10:48 PM EDT reply actions  

its a great investment

by MarcB on Apr 16, 2008 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had it last year

and it was nice but I don’t have a lot of time or money right now

by DITO on Apr 16, 2008 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Money

an issue here too.

Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...

by UtesFan89 on Apr 16, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't.

instead, i’m watching this on MLB gameday while watching my Jazz get creamed on the TV.
Bad day in sports for me… and we’re only in the 2nd inning here.

Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...

by UtesFan89 on Apr 16, 2008 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

$15 bucks f/the radio feed only

Super investment. Can watch the (Dodger) higlights as clips in the Gameday box score. Can do other stuff while listening to the Pirates on the radio like I did back in the 70’s – except that they won then.

by Trogluddite on Apr 16, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Huh

$15 for the radio feed of any mlb game?

by DITO on Apr 16, 2008 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think

I’d wanna hear this team on the radio.
Watching is on Gameday is frustrating enough.

Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...

by UtesFan89 on Apr 16, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good Night

I’ll take my chances on missing the dramatic come from behind win.

by Trogluddite on Apr 16, 2008 10:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Maholm

is doing worse than Morris did yesterday.

Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...

by UtesFan89 on Apr 16, 2008 10:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Why is FSN

playing the Final Score and Best Damn Sports Show Period when a Pirate game is on?

by DITO on Apr 16, 2008 10:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Or

is going on I should say

by DITO on Apr 16, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jesus

does the ENTIRE TEAM have the flu? Old man Morris and now this…feels like old times (meaning the last 15 seasons)...

by PureTekulve on Apr 16, 2008 10:51 PM EDT reply actions  

FSN obviously

knew the Pirates were going to get blown out tonight.

by Thunder on Apr 16, 2008 10:52 PM EDT reply actions  

the real question is how long is John Russell going to let Maholm out there to dry

by MarcB on Apr 16, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply actions  

I’d leave him out there for now. He hasn’t been THAT bad.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 16, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

its just everyone of them has a gotten a pretty good lick on him… hes not fooling anyone out there except jones who is struggling anyway..

by MarcB on Apr 16, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

he’s had some bad luck and don’t want to tax the bullpen tooo much

by richmondpirate on Apr 16, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sure that

Maholm is wondering the same thing.

by Thunder on Apr 16, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

at least we get to see McLouth again this inning

by DITO on Apr 16, 2008 10:56 PM EDT reply actions  

sorry, accidently hit post

Anyways, the Dodgers have 2 sac flies, 2 bunt singles, Kemp beating out a terrible rundown, and a questionable “check swing” that could have ended an inning. Nady decided to help our cause by running into an out at home on a hit that was obviously not going to score a run straight off the bat.

And to make it worse, the Dodger’s announcer is an ass.

by poorboywilly on Apr 16, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

not sure it matters

who we send out there. We’ve been outscored 21-8 in the series thusfar…

by PureTekulve on Apr 16, 2008 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

love how the dodgers bats wake up vs us

by MarcB on Apr 16, 2008 11:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Good Luck

Stayed up last night. Not tonight.

by 19maz60 on Apr 16, 2008 11:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Watching the Yankees Red Sox on ESPN2

Giambi just KILLED a ball down the line…barely foul though

by DITO on Apr 16, 2008 11:02 PM EDT reply actions  

so i guess its a good thing i started brad penny on my fantasy team :(

by MarcB on Apr 16, 2008 11:02 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m getting hosed. Wells and Rios now 3 for 11 after starting well, Blanton getting hammered, Phillips, Tejada 0-fer, McLouth 0-fer-so-far

by poorboywilly on Apr 16, 2008 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, that

was a simple inning.
3-up, 3-down

Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...

by UtesFan89 on Apr 16, 2008 11:02 PM EDT reply actions  

i got up to go the bathroom and get a beer and the inning was over…ridiculous

by richmondpirate on Apr 16, 2008 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're gonna need

a lot more beer if you see this one through to the end.

by Thunder on Apr 16, 2008 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

i’m a pirates fan aren’t i?

by richmondpirate on Apr 16, 2008 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

point taken. If I didn’t have to go to work in 90 minutes, I wouldn’t be paying any attention to this debacle…but I needed something to do.

by Thunder on Apr 16, 2008 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, this game thread should at least get progressively more amusing. :)

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 16, 2008 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

that ball got “a little” the ump? looked to me like it got all of him hahahaha.

by poorboywilly on Apr 16, 2008 11:12 PM EDT reply actions  

nice so they dont get to pound on us again till sept

by MarcB on Apr 16, 2008 11:13 PM EDT reply actions  

runs have gone from 4 to 2 to 0…maybe it’s a sign

by richmondpirate on Apr 16, 2008 11:15 PM EDT reply actions  

so there is light at the end of the tunnel!

by MarcB on Apr 16, 2008 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I think that means next inning it will be -2.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 16, 2008 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doesn't mean much

if we don’t score. Penny doesn’t give up 6 very often.

by Thunder on Apr 16, 2008 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll take 4, which he gave up twice against the Padres last week. Then we can rough up their bullpen again.

by MarcB on Apr 16, 2008 11:18 PM EDT reply actions  

errors

oof… 21 errors in 15 games

by MarcB on Apr 16, 2008 11:19 PM EDT reply actions  

did the announcer

just say that the neither Sanchez nor Wilson made an error in 2007? If a team’s middle infielders didn’t make any errors all year, I think that would be a record of some sort.

by poorboywilly on Apr 16, 2008 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

it can't

and it’s not….this guy is getting senile though, I think

by poorboywilly on Apr 16, 2008 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

At least Bay’s hitting well.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 16, 2008 11:20 PM EDT reply actions  

I’d like to see some hitting from LaRoche

by MarcB on Apr 16, 2008 11:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Well...

the bat hit the ball. Does that count?

Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...

by UtesFan89 on Apr 16, 2008 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Termites...

somebody needs to get them out of our batrack. Call Orkin. I’ve never seen so many broken bats.

by Thunder on Apr 16, 2008 11:24 PM EDT reply actions  

double play

perhaps that is the turning point of this mini-slump…that was a SWEET double play

by poorboywilly on Apr 16, 2008 11:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Web gem??

That might be the only positive highlight we see all night.

by Thunder on Apr 16, 2008 11:29 PM EDT reply actions  

at least

maholm seems to be settling down a bit

by richmondpirate on Apr 16, 2008 11:33 PM EDT reply actions  

we always turn fancy double plays..

by MarcB on Apr 16, 2008 11:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Bautista looks terrible in every aspect…too bad the next best option right now is Mientkewickz

by poorboywilly on Apr 16, 2008 11:37 PM EDT reply actions  

I’d rather see Doug personally.

by MarcB on Apr 16, 2008 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...

by UtesFan89 on Apr 16, 2008 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Salt Lake City.

Actually a suburb of the Valley of Salt, but yeah.

Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...

by UtesFan89 on Apr 16, 2008 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice

I’m up in Cache Valley. Don’t run into to many Pirates fans out here.

by poorboywilly on Apr 16, 2008 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another Pirates fan

in Utah?
Holy sh**... never thought I’d see that.

Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...

by UtesFan89 on Apr 16, 2008 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

at this point you are right, at least Derg can field (consistently).

by poorboywilly on Apr 16, 2008 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

At this point...

I’d rather see Walker than Bautista every day. Bautista is proving the point that there are some players that shouldn’t be playing every day.

by Thunder on Apr 16, 2008 11:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Bullpens

Now pitching for the Blue Jays in the top of the 14th…AJ Burnett. Obviously…we are not the only team that forgets to save a pitcher or two for a long extra inning game.

by Thunder on Apr 16, 2008 11:45 PM EDT reply actions  

huh

that’ll be interesting for my fantasy team. Had him left in one of my pitching slots. Maybe I’ll get a win out of it.

by poorboywilly on Apr 16, 2008 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

or a loss…that’s pretty bad for an AL team to burn through those pitchers so fast.

by poorboywilly on Apr 16, 2008 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure enough

AJ Burnett gives up 2 in the top of the 14th to lose the game for the Blue Jays…although the first of the 2 scored on what was called a wild pitch…but appeared to beat the catcher through the 5 hole.

by Thunder on Apr 17, 2008 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Really, nice work by Maholm getting this far.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 16, 2008 11:46 PM EDT reply actions  

yea he's rallied

after the first two innings i never thought he’d get this far

by richmondpirate on Apr 16, 2008 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

In a piece of good news

For the 2nd series in a row with the Cubs…we miss Zambrano…since he pitched tonight.

by Thunder on Apr 16, 2008 11:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Didn't go so well

last time, even without him.

Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...

by UtesFan89 on Apr 16, 2008 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

No Soriano either...

but until we start playing major league baseball…instead of Little League baseball…it doesn’t matter who we play.

by Thunder on Apr 16, 2008 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

15 game hitting streak by McLouth.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 16, 2008 11:51 PM EDT reply actions  

McLouth

extends it…so at least something went right.

by Thunder on Apr 16, 2008 11:51 PM EDT reply actions  

at least we have one thing going for us

by richmondpirate on Apr 16, 2008 11:52 PM EDT reply actions  

this is where

Laroche needs to hit a home run. Take advantage of one of THEIR gaffes.

by poorboywilly on Apr 16, 2008 11:54 PM EDT reply actions  

i’d like to see a double by the x-man

by MarcB on Apr 16, 2008 11:57 PM EDT reply actions  

the x-man

has already generated half the year’s stats, he needs to take his average down to about .225 for a few weeks

by poorboywilly on Apr 17, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

don't say that.

Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...

by UtesFan89 on Apr 17, 2008 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m sorry; I’m glad to see him playing well.

by poorboywilly on Apr 17, 2008 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, that's a night.

The Jazz just got crushed.
The Buccos are losing 6-1.
That’s it for today, I can’t take much more.

Go Buccos!

Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...

by UtesFan89 on Apr 17, 2008 12:09 AM EDT reply actions  

almost caught paulino napping

by MarcB on Apr 17, 2008 12:18 AM EDT reply actions  

good to see

nyjer getting his money’s worth on the new pitcher

by richmondpirate on Apr 17, 2008 12:21 AM EDT reply actions  

kind of humorous

watching his Dodgers analog take a circuitous route to his fly ball thought.

by poorboywilly on Apr 17, 2008 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

at least Adam is looking pretty decent. Good at bats.

by poorboywilly on Apr 17, 2008 12:47 AM EDT reply actions  

This is actually one of the better 8-1 games I’ve ever seen the Pirates play.

I’m aware of the irony, but maybe you know what I mean.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 17, 2008 12:56 AM EDT reply actions  

oh I know exactly what you mean

That Pierre “double” just kind of summed up the game. A rather poorly batted ball somehow makes it for a hit; not only a hit but a run-scoring double.

by poorboywilly on Apr 17, 2008 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

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