Pirates vs. Mets, 29 April 2008
by Charlie on Apr 29, 2008 2:26 PM EDT
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Pittsburgh Pirates at New York Mets, Apr 29, 2008 7:10 PM EDT
Let's try this again. Ian Snell and Johan Santana, 7:10 at Shea. Here's the box.
If you haven't seen it, there's a pretty interesting article in the Post-Gazette about a number of players the Pirates could have traded this winter, but didn't. A lot of them are making the Bucs look pretty smart. Damaso Marte has struggled, but Xavier Nady, John Grabow and Jason Bay all now look like they could fetch something. I'm still not a fan of the Pirates' decision to start Nady and leave Steve Pearce in the minors -- what can I say, I'm stubborn -- but all will be forgiven if the Pirates can snag a real prospect for Nady. As for Bay, his numbers have tailed off a bit in the last week or so, but he's still posting a 127 OPS+. The packages other teams were offering over the winter were meager, but they may be better now.
-P- The Brewers just made room for Mike Cameron by sending SP David Bush to the minors. I don't know what the Pirates really have to offer the Brewers, and I don't want them trading prospects in any case, but if I were the Bucs, I'd call to see what it would take to pry Bush away. The Pirates need a starter, and Bush's numbers indicate he could be helpful. He's posted K/BB ratios of 3:1 or better the past two years, and he keeps the ball on the ground. A good portion of the blame for his bad ERA last year goes to the Brewers' bad defense, not to him.
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bush
i thought the same thing when i saw he was released. he’d make a decent stopgap for the bucs but i don’t think he’s worth what we’d have to give up to get him. his big k/bb splits could also make him an excellent reliever, should his struggles as a starter continue.
by johnnycuff on Apr 29, 2008 3:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not released.
He had an option left, and he’s supposedly going to be back up in a day or two.
The local connection would be interesting with Bush, but I’m not sure I’d be willing to pay anything extra for it.
by Vlad on Apr 29, 2008 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of Milwaukee pitchers
I do think we missed a trick by not making a heavier push for Claudio Vargas when the Brewers cut him loose. He’s nothing special, but given the general instability of our rotation (and the lack of quality options in the minors), I do think it would’ve been nice to have some extra insurance.
by Vlad on Apr 29, 2008 3:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree. While Vargas is nothing to write home about, he’s really not a horrible pitcher. Many of Milwaukee’s pitchers (Capuano, Bush, Vargas) looked artificially bad last year because of bad defense by Braun, Hall and others. It wouldn’t have been a bad idea to take a look at any of them—although, again, it’s not like the Pirates have a lot to offer.
by Charlie on Apr 29, 2008 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vargas was released by Mil. The Pirates could have claimed him on waivers and picked yp his $3.6 million salary. They acknowledge whenever Dejan asks that they still have money laying around, even giving Morris his $10 million. Or they could have signed him when he cleared. It took the Mets 16 days to sign him, after first professing little interest. Perhaps he still would have preferred the Mets, though his chance at a longer term job seem better with the Buccos. I’m not aware that Neal even tried however.
by rogero on Apr 29, 2008 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Been a while
since I’ve been home for the start of a game.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 6:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Mets
SS Reyes
2 Castillo
3 Wright
CF Beltran
RF Church
1 Delgado
C Casanova
LF Chavez
P Perez (2-1, 4.45)
Reyes is 3-12 in his career against Snell.
Wright is 1-7.
Church 1-6.
Casanova 2-2.
Castillo 1-7.
Beltran 2-8.
Chavez is 3-3.
Delgado is 2-7.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 6:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oops... not Perez (with Snell's numbers)
Santana (3-2, 3.12)
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Buccos
CF McLouth
SS Gomez
2 Sanchez
LF Jason-ity
RF X-Man
1 Black Hole
3 Bautista
C Paulino
P Snell (2-1, 4.45)
Bautista is 0-9 in his career against Santana. Ouch.
Bay is 1-3.
Gomez is 8-14.
Nady is 1-4.
Paulino is 1-2.
Sanchez is 2-3.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 7:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No one else has faced Santana
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gomez
too lazy to look…is this his first start for us at SS.
by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 7:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not sure...
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nate!
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 7:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And
Hossa has already put the pens up 1-0. Could be a real bad night for NY sports fans.
by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 7:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Only thing that could make it worse...
rehiring of Isiah as basketball coach?
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right
Bush would do much better with a strong defense like ours behind him.
Oh, wait …
by bucdaddy on Apr 29, 2008 7:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Any pitcher would have trouble with our defense. That doesn’t change the fact that Bush’s performance last year makes him look worse than he is.
by Charlie on Apr 29, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pinch me
one of our catchers actually threw out a good base stealer.
by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Shocking!
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea that was shocking…Paulino throwing out Reyes??
by richmondpirate on Apr 29, 2008 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i really wish...
i could watch this…
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 29, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's beginning
to look like Santana has found his groove. Snell may need a bunch of zeros tonight.
by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 7:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
doesnt help....
that he just got a base hit
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 29, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Snell
seems to be struggling with his control somewhat. May be the weather (cold and damp).
by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 7:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He struggled a little
last start, too, even after the first inning.
by DITO on Apr 29, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huh,
so Paulino gunned down Reyes?
I saw it on my fantasy team’s scoreboard and had to come on and ask how the trow looked…I know Reyes is off this year but the throw had to be pretty good.
by DITO on Apr 29, 2008 7:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it SOUNDED good...
not on TV here (pens)
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 29, 2008 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Never mind
double plays take care of walks pretty well.
by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 7:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
BAY!
GETTIN HOT
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 29, 2008 8:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jason-ity!
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 8:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Only one problem with Jason...
guess how many RBI Jason has that have not been on Home Runs this season?? Try zero!!! He’s had 1 three run homer…1 two run homer and 4 solos…for 9 RBI.
by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 8:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wow
didn’t know that…..pretty interesting
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 29, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting. Yes.
Also very disappointing.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And that’s a problem with Bay? Isn’t that really a problem with the guys that hit in front of him?
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by Willton on Apr 29, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
crap
church 2 run shot
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 29, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
o dear
cmon ian dont let this get ugly
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 29, 2008 8:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Defense
strikes again. How can Freddy drop that throw?? Snell should have been out of the inning.
by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Santana at 91 pitches
Perhaps the offense learned a thing or two about hitting?
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by Willton on Apr 29, 2008 8:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that error better not cost us… now that hurts snell.. god
by MarcB on Apr 29, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey Snell
STOP WALKING PEOPLE!!!!
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by Willton on Apr 29, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Basically knocks Snell out of the game. That’s a drag.
by Charlie on Apr 29, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
urgh
this game started out promising…....
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 29, 2008 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Big gimme from the ump, too.
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on Apr 29, 2008 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MLB.tv feed
which happens to be the mets feed…had a shot from hi behind the plate that showed it was definitely outside. Good thing is that Marte then got Delgado.
by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it was definitely way outside, but whatev! Take what we can get!
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on Apr 29, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they said on radio
he was mad at the call but the pitch looked to be clearly a strike?
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 29, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
huge break streaking out church, but gets delgado… thanks goodness that inning did not get far out of hand
by MarcB on Apr 29, 2008 8:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
marte
clutch since the first two games
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 29, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
they are loaded
with 2 outs, for….....................laroche. wonderful
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 29, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Adam LaRoche, If there ever was a time to break out your bat… the time is now!
by MarcB on Apr 29, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i almost think
they should pinch hit for him in situations like this. you just KNOW hes not gonna get a hit
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 29, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was about to write the same thing
it would never happen…but I would have loved to have Doumit hitting there
by DITO on Apr 29, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i know it would never happen
but yeah…..
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 29, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was visiting my parents this weekend, and my 60-year-old mild-mannered kindergarten teacher mom kept calling LaRoche a “p*y.” It was pretty funny.
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on Apr 29, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s actually kind of good to see Gomez at short.
by Charlie on Apr 29, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
a chance...
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 29, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Know I'm late but
- Saw Freddy’s error 8 times on the Mets broadcast. It was all on Freddy.
- “Pathetic” is a kind charecterization of Adam’s alleged swing. I swing like that hitting fungos to my kid.
by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Quick question (just to torment us all more)...
Morgan or Rivas?
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't believe he couldn't bunt
were the two foul balls fastball strikes?
by DITO on Apr 29, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not sure, but
he fouled them both down the third base line and we were lucky neither was caught.
by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mclouth
cmon!!!
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 29, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Today's Post Gazette sez
Nyjer could be our starting center fielder soon – or was that McCutcheon?
by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 9:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
dang
now its all gomez
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 29, 2008 9:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh, never mind, misunderstood the situation.
by Charlie on Apr 29, 2008 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ARRRRRRRGHHH!!!!
radio sez bad call? or bautista just slow?
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 29, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
AAAAARRRRRGGHHHHH
Bad call – the Mets announcers will fill us in.
by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hahahaha
love the reaction^
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 29, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NONONONO! He was safe.
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on Apr 29, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Looked like Bautista's hand was
on the plate before the pitcher got the tag on him.
by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
first bautista is slow.. second it was a bad call
by MarcB on Apr 29, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Did Russell
go argue with the ump?
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Didn’t appear to…
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on Apr 29, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Waiting f/ultra-slow motion with
super close zoom in – they were using it to show Santana’s grip earlier. Pretty cool.
by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 9:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what happened?
was it a wild pitch that Bautista broke on?
by DITO on Apr 29, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wild pitch but
Mets catcher got to it very quickly – it did not go as far away as you would expect.
by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm.
Bautista’s hand went over the plate but may not have touched the plate. Very good zoom and very fair commentary by the announcers. Not saying either way, just pointing out that from one angle he looked safe, but from another he missed the plate.
by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well… he was out, though it was close. His hand hovered over the plate, but didn’t touch.
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on Apr 29, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
FWIW, the Pens are about to make their series 3-0…
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on Apr 29, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That'd be awesome news for me...
if I were a Penguins fan.
But I’m not, so this game is still very depressing.
And getting in the way of my studying for a final too.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Weird
Reyes w/a good lead. Yates steps off. Reyes doesn’t move. Yates fakes a throw, Reyes heads back. Too bad we don’t have a slap-hitting, good-eye, fast lead-off hitter. It helps.
by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 9:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If somebody
offers us anything for Paulino…I suggest that NH take it.
by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You could make a similar argument
for quite a few people on the team.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No guarantee he gets Reyes
although it would be nice to at least have a throw down
by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and he nearly doubled off Reyes
after a long run, slide, and a backhand pick just off the grass – nothing SICK about it
by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bay's catch wasn't shown again
as the inning ended. Hard to tell whether it would have been fair or foul, but Tyler Y owes Jason B a beer.
by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dodged a bullet
now let’s get some runs.
by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This game, while ugly, could be a lot worse than it is… I guess the suckiness is all relative…
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on Apr 29, 2008 9:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Now that
Santana is out…Gomez gets a hit.
by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 9:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
C’mon Freddy, redeem yourself!
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on Apr 29, 2008 9:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm blacked out, but I'm sure we can F this up easily
by azibuck on Apr 29, 2008 9:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
will it be through bad baserunning or
3x strikeouts? Odds, anyone?
by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jason-ity
strikes again.
In a bad way.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Earlier
Mets announcers said bay hitting something like .119 with runners in scoring position…so of course he strikes out with 2 in scoring position.
by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 9:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bay was so ahead of that last pitch he was half way back to the dugout before it hit the mitt.
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on Apr 29, 2008 9:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You know, this is like high school dating...
by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 9:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You never win?
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You mean us
as Pirates fans, of course.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they build your expectations up
then shoot them down
by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
of course, you don't have that problem in Utah
what w/your 5 wives and everything.
by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't know about that...
not being Mormon and all. About the wives that is.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and with the 5 wives thing...
in case you aren’t paying attention to the FLDS thing in Texas right now… they really don’t seem to be high school age even.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know the penalty for 5 wives in Texas, don't you?
by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is this
a Chuck Norris joke?
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, there's a real specific penalty
Nothing to do w/Chuck Norris.
by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh.
Nope, no idea.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hilarious.
:)
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You'd be surprised the number
of times I work that into casual conversation.
by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahahhahaha
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 29, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
You sit home watching TV while other guys are getting to 2nd and 3rd.
by azibuck on Apr 29, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That too.
lol
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
greeaaaat
guess whos up now in the clutch??
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 29, 2008 9:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Frankly
I don’t know why they are even pitching to Nady with LaRoche on deck.
by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 9:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well
they walked him.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wowww
laroche
walk
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 29, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The only way he can score.
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on Apr 29, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ha
what an idiot…just throw him fastballs down the middle
by DITO on Apr 29, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
why the hell wasn’t doumit batting there
by poorboywilly on Apr 29, 2008 10:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Paulino's ability to call the game?
Why didn’t Mienkowicz pinch-hit for Bautista? I’d have more confidence in him at least getting a sacrifice fly in that situation.
by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Call the damn game
from the dugout then…because on the field…he’s extremely close to totally useless.
by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Paulino & Morris
could team up as bench coaches to call games.
by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'd rather have
Mientkewicz playing 3B every day. Or Gomez. But maybe Gomez needs to play SS.
by poorboywilly on Apr 29, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Paulino is useless. Ugh.
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on Apr 29, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just like that
we run through scoring chances like water
by DITO on Apr 29, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
god da** it
Paulino.
1 pitch?
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what a waste man. two innings with base loaded due to wild bullpen work by the mets and we cant bust this one open.
by MarcB on Apr 29, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sanchez throws
eight balls in 10 pitches…then Bautista swings at 4 in 5 pitches and rolls one to third…and Ronny pops up on the first one. Nice patience guys.
by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tease, tease, tease, tease.
A wonder I haven’t keeled over w/a heart attack this year.
by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well
there comes the first.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mets announcers openly announced
that the question w/Grabow is where he will be traded
by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 10:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Same with
Marte. And Nady. And hopefully Paulino. And maybe even Jack. And Jason-ity.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And now
we get to face their closer.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Argh, I hate Billy Wagner
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on Apr 29, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But at least we have Doumit
pinch-hitting
by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 10:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
One inning
too late?
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man if we had a speedy guy
like Nyjer Morgan to pinch run now.
by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't like Russell so much
This is near buffoonery. Why didn’t Doumit bat in the 8th?
by azibuck on Apr 29, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
apparently mclouth is
0-0 being beaned in his one matchup vs. wagner
by poorboywilly on Apr 29, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This has the hallmarks of a disaster.
Bixler pinch-running
by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 10:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
OH NO
what if Paulino gets injured? aahahahahah
by poorboywilly on Apr 29, 2008 10:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mientkiewicz?
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Put Morris into catch
oh that’s right – we cut him finally
by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 10:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mets announcers:
That’s great base-running by Bixler
by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 10:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It is...
he didn’t get thrown out trying to make it a 2-bag steal. And he didn’t over-slide the bag. It’s gotta be a first for the Pirates this season.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is Rivas still on the team?
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gah.
Come on Nate. You’re better than that.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
1 pitch out
from Gomez.
Brilliant.
And Sanchez up now.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WooooHooooo
You don’t know how close that looked to an out
by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 10:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nope.
I don’t.
I know that we’re tied though.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Freddy!
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Any center fielder but Beltran gets there
by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 10:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Morgan?
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sigh.
Bad Jason-ity again.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Looks
like we will go to the bottom of the 9th tied. Bay K’s again.
by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 10:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's amazing...
...what not being down by 6 in the first inning does for ya!
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on Apr 29, 2008 10:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oh god
this is going to be one unholy defensive alignment
by poorboywilly on Apr 29, 2008 10:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
More like one unholy pitching alignment. Russell is hoping Osoria can get through an inning so then they can put Capps in the ninth spot. Not a great bargain, I don’t think.
by Charlie on Apr 29, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why let
Wright beat us…walk to set up DP.
by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 10:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just letting us taste the possibility of a win
thinking that we’re that close, and WHAM! It’s pulled away like a HS cheerleader telling you you’re just not cool enought to kiss.
by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 10:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyone have the Penguins final score?
by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 10:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
5-3
Pitt
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
bonus baseball
that’s why I’m not managing.
by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 10:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Extra innings!
It’s been a while.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanx - I still have
flashbacks to the powder-blue uniforms and the hockey season ending in March, with no sign of the Penguins in the game.
by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 10:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kinda glad we had that postponed game last night now.
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on Apr 29, 2008 10:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Who is left on the bench right now?
Rivas & Mientkiewicz only?
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
X-Man, Black Hole & Bautista
due up.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like runs!
Or is it the runs?
by azibuck on Apr 29, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely
“the”
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
X-man out...
what lowers the chances of scoring this inning to near 0.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What do you mean?
“Near zero”...more like less than zero.
by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The sports pessimist in me
has died due to too much exposure to the Pirates & officials in the NBA.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guess that Piniero isn't that bad
Reds have one hit off him in 7 innings. So what he did against the Bucs wasn’t a 1 shot deal.
by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 10:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Except that it's the Reds.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just a bit more...
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LaRoche with a double.
Wait, what?!?
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on Apr 29, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of LaRoche
he has 2 BB’s today.
Someone needs to take the Mets pitchers aside and thrash them. How do you walk him? And then how do you do it again?
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I just know we'll get a run and win the game
my hopes can’t be dashed again, can they?
by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
if you change "the game"
to “a game”, then your hopes will definitely come true. At some point in the some-what near future.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Paulino needs a hit here.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
boy
I wish Doumit could be batting right now
by poorboywilly on Apr 29, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice to see
Bautista making up for LaRoche’s accidental double. Teamwork!
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on Apr 29, 2008 10:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
other teams would screw it up by having the 2nd batter drive the run in.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
god Paulino.
There’s no need to trade him to the Mets. He’s already playing for them.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wrong NY team
if Paulino’s going to NY…likely to be the Yankees with Posada out.
by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Assuming this game goes on for a while
it would be interesting to see how we use JVB…as a pitcher…or as a hitter.
by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 10:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He's gotta get an at bat
before Rivas… right? Right?
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mientkiewicz, Nate & Gomez.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mientki boo'd by Mets fans and
Mets announcers ponder the imponderable – who has the longer name, Mientki or VonWonderSchuten?
by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
One pitch out
for Mientkiewicz.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Freddy?
Did the “lean back, hands-up” don’t hit me move for a pitch over the middle of the plate. Not sure what that was all about.
by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 10:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is that ump enormous or is Freddy short?
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by phillybucco on Apr 29, 2008 10:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
JVB!
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
JVB leaned in while Paulino was giving him his signs.
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on Apr 29, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why JVB is in the minors
1st batter – inside, outside, 0-2 count. Middle of the plate, single.
2nd batter – when two umps emphatically call a balk, you know there’s a problem.
by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Did I miss something? Where the hell is Capps?
by Charlie on Apr 29, 2008 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He only enters
in save situations?
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great.
Man on 3rd.
And Reyes is up… 3-3 on the night.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 11:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So they intentionally walk him.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We walk Reyes, and we're not going to
walk the bases full? Incredible. Reyes will steal on the 1st pitch.
by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 11:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Got to 2nd
on “defensive indifference”. What was the point of the walk then?
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We lose on another balk
I’m calling it here.
by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 11:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I just don't get this
JVB should be the last guy used. Randolph used Wagner starting in the 9th. what are we saving Capps for?
by azibuck on Apr 29, 2008 11:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Makes sense.
You don’t wanna tire him out.
Who knows how old he’ll be when we get there.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They were leading in the 9th inning
and he blew it.
We’re tied right now.
Stupid reason, but I really can’t think of any other reason.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right, you're right. But the Capps question stands
by azibuck on Apr 29, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
no idea why he didn’t start the inning.
Stupid decision.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Defensive indifference. That could be our team slogan.
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on Apr 29, 2008 11:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lol
works on offense (for the most part) & pitching too.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Though...
“get us out of here” works well too.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
walk
just what we want, the bases juiced with the game on the line and possibly the NL’s best hitter due up.
by johnnycuff on Apr 29, 2008 11:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Russell has not
even looked like he’s coming off the bench, whether to argue a call or to mentor his players. It’s almost like he’s in a trace – I mean trance.
by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 11:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Was he setting up the double play there?
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 11:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Have fun tomorrow - I'll be at work
by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 11:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Same here.
I’ll miss the beginning of the game.
Therefore 5 or 6 runs…
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Game.
FU**
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 11:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
send him down tomorrow
You're a Pirates fan?
by thegetupkids on Apr 29, 2008 11:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
bring up burnett
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by thegetupkids on Apr 29, 2008 11:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
jvb will never work as a pitcher
do the rick ankiel approach
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by thegetupkids on Apr 29, 2008 11:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is this the John Russell equivalent
to Jim Tracy`s decision in the McCleary game? I don`t get it from what I`ve read here. And after a rain day, we still would use JVB? If they didn`t want to use Capps in a tied game, then why not Meek? Maybe there is a reason, but I can`t figure it out yet.
by patthatt on Apr 29, 2008 11:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The players stink, no doubt, but Russell...
He didn’t put his players in position to succeed. We had chances in the 7th and 8th, and especially the 8th, I just don’t understand how you don’t bat Doumit for Bautista or Paulino with the bases jammed, a righty on the mound, and no lefties left in the NY pen. Text fucking book. I’m all for out of the box thinking, but not there. I highly doubt Randolph brings in Wagner, so it’s Doumit v. Sanchez. That’s the matchup you want. Then, he burns Doumit leading off the 9th v. Wagner, and PR’s for him. I just… I just don’t get that.
Capps should have been available for two innings. Instead we got JVB.
by azibuck on Apr 29, 2008 11:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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