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Pirates vs. Mets, 29 April 2008

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Pittsburgh Pirates @ New York Mets


Let's try this again. Ian Snell and Johan Santana, 7:10 at Shea. Here's the box.

If you haven't seen it, there's a pretty interesting article in the Post-Gazette about a number of players the Pirates could have traded this winter, but didn't. A lot of them are making the Bucs look pretty smart. Damaso Marte has struggled, but Xavier Nady, John Grabow and Jason Bay all now look like they could fetch something. I'm still not a fan of the Pirates' decision to start Nady and leave Steve Pearce in the minors -- what can I say, I'm stubborn -- but all will be forgiven if the Pirates can snag a real prospect for Nady. As for Bay, his numbers have tailed off a bit in the last week or so, but he's still posting a 127 OPS+. The packages other teams were offering over the winter were meager, but they may be better now.

-P- The Brewers just made room for Mike Cameron by sending SP David Bush to the minors. I don't know what the Pirates really have to offer the Brewers, and I don't want them trading prospects in any case, but if I were the Bucs, I'd call to see what it would take to pry Bush away. The Pirates need a starter, and Bush's numbers indicate he could be helpful. He's posted K/BB ratios of 3:1 or better the past two years, and he keeps the ball on the ground. A good portion of the blame for his bad ERA last year goes to the Brewers' bad defense, not to him.

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i thought the same thing when i saw he was released. he’d make a decent stopgap for the bucs but i don’t think he’s worth what we’d have to give up to get him. his big k/bb splits could also make him an excellent reliever, should his struggles as a starter continue.

by johnnycuff on Apr 29, 2008 3:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not released.

He had an option left, and he’s supposedly going to be back up in a day or two.

The local connection would be interesting with Bush, but I’m not sure I’d be willing to pay anything extra for it.

by Vlad on Apr 29, 2008 3:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Speaking of Milwaukee pitchers

I do think we missed a trick by not making a heavier push for Claudio Vargas when the Brewers cut him loose. He’s nothing special, but given the general instability of our rotation (and the lack of quality options in the minors), I do think it would’ve been nice to have some extra insurance.

by Vlad on Apr 29, 2008 3:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree. While Vargas is nothing to write home about, he’s really not a horrible pitcher. Many of Milwaukee’s pitchers (Capuano, Bush, Vargas) looked artificially bad last year because of bad defense by Braun, Hall and others. It wouldn’t have been a bad idea to take a look at any of them—although, again, it’s not like the Pirates have a lot to offer.

by Charlie on Apr 29, 2008 3:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Vargas was released by Mil. The Pirates could have claimed him on waivers and picked yp his $3.6 million salary. They acknowledge whenever Dejan asks that they still have money laying around, even giving Morris his $10 million. Or they could have signed him when he cleared. It took the Mets 16 days to sign him, after first professing little interest. Perhaps he still would have preferred the Mets, though his chance at a longer term job seem better with the Buccos. I’m not aware that Neal even tried however.

by rogero on Apr 29, 2008 6:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Been a while

since I’ve been home for the start of a game.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 6:51 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Mets

SS Reyes
2 Castillo
3 Wright
CF Beltran
RF Church
1 Delgado
C Casanova
LF Chavez
P Perez (2-1, 4.45)

Reyes is 3-12 in his career against Snell.
Wright is 1-7.
Church 1-6.
Casanova 2-2.
Castillo 1-7.
Beltran 2-8.
Chavez is 3-3.
Delgado is 2-7.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 6:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oops... not Perez (with Snell's numbers)

Santana (3-2, 3.12)

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 6:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Buccos

CF McLouth
SS Gomez
2 Sanchez
LF Jason-ity
RF X-Man
1 Black Hole
3 Bautista
C Paulino
P Snell (2-1, 4.45)

Bautista is 0-9 in his career against Santana. Ouch.
Bay is 1-3.
Gomez is 8-14.
Nady is 1-4.
Paulino is 1-2.
Sanchez is 2-3.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 7:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gomez

too lazy to look…is this his first start for us at SS.

by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 7:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not sure...

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 7:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nate!

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 7:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And

Hossa has already put the pens up 1-0. Could be a real bad night for NY sports fans.

by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 7:13 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Only thing that could make it worse...

rehiring of Isiah as basketball coach?

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 7:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Naaahh...

Yanks are down 2-0 too.

by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 7:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You're right

Bush would do much better with a strong defense like ours behind him.

Oh, wait …

by bucdaddy on Apr 29, 2008 7:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Any pitcher would have trouble with our defense. That doesn’t change the fact that Bush’s performance last year makes him look worse than he is.

by Charlie on Apr 29, 2008 8:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pinch me

one of our catchers actually threw out a good base stealer.

by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Shocking!

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 7:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yea that was shocking…Paulino throwing out Reyes??

by richmondpirate on Apr 29, 2008 7:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and

it wasn’t all that close at 2nd either.

by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 7:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i really wish...

i could watch this…

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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 29, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's beginning

to look like Santana has found his groove. Snell may need a bunch of zeros tonight.

by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 7:53 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

doesnt help....

that he just got a base hit

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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 29, 2008 7:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Snell

seems to be struggling with his control somewhat. May be the weather (cold and damp).

by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 7:58 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He struggled a little

last start, too, even after the first inning.

by DITO on Apr 29, 2008 7:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Huh,

so Paulino gunned down Reyes?

I saw it on my fantasy team’s scoreboard and had to come on and ask how the trow looked…I know Reyes is off this year but the throw had to be pretty good.

by DITO on Apr 29, 2008 7:59 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it SOUNDED good...

not on TV here (pens)

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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 29, 2008 8:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It was…Reyes out by a couple of feet. Throw a little to first base side of second…but good overall.

by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 8:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks

for the hundreth time…I really need to buy mlbtv

by DITO on Apr 29, 2008 8:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Never mind

double plays take care of walks pretty well.

by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 7:59 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BAY!

GETTIN HOT

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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 29, 2008 8:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jason-ity!

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 8:05 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Only one problem with Jason...

guess how many RBI Jason has that have not been on Home Runs this season?? Try zero!!! He’s had 1 three run homer…1 two run homer and 4 solos…for 9 RBI.

by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 8:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wow

didn’t know that…..pretty interesting

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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 29, 2008 8:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Interesting. Yes.

Also very disappointing.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 8:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And that’s a problem with Bay? Isn’t that really a problem with the guys that hit in front of him?

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by Willton on Apr 29, 2008 8:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

crap

church 2 run shot

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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 29, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

o dear

cmon ian dont let this get ugly

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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 29, 2008 8:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wow… come on now..

Pirates Cove

by MarcB on Apr 29, 2008 8:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Defense

strikes again. How can Freddy drop that throw?? Snell should have been out of the inning.

by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Santana at 91 pitches

Perhaps the offense learned a thing or two about hitting?

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by Willton on Apr 29, 2008 8:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that error better not cost us… now that hurts snell.. god

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by MarcB on Apr 29, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey Snell

STOP WALKING PEOPLE!!!!

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by Willton on Apr 29, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Basically knocks Snell out of the game. That’s a drag.

by Charlie on Apr 29, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

urgh

this game started out promising…....

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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 29, 2008 8:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow, big K by Marte.

by Charlie on Apr 29, 2008 8:51 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Big gimme from the ump, too.

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Apr 29, 2008 8:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Really? It looked in the zone to me.

by Charlie on Apr 29, 2008 8:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

MLB.tv feed

which happens to be the mets feed…had a shot from hi behind the plate that showed it was definitely outside. Good thing is that Marte then got Delgado.

by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 8:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, it was definitely way outside, but whatev! Take what we can get!

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Apr 29, 2008 8:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

they said on radio

he was mad at the call but the pitch looked to be clearly a strike?

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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 29, 2008 8:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Although

it was about 3 inches outside.

by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 8:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the pitch before looked three inches outside. maybe I already have them reversed in my head.

by Charlie on Apr 29, 2008 8:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

huge break streaking out church, but gets delgado… thanks goodness that inning did not get far out of hand

Pirates Cove

by MarcB on Apr 29, 2008 8:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

marte

clutch since the first two games

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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 29, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh wow, big break on the 0-2 HBP

by Charlie on Apr 29, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

they are loaded

with 2 outs, for….....................laroche. wonderful

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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 29, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Adam LaRoche, If there ever was a time to break out your bat… the time is now!

Pirates Cove

by MarcB on Apr 29, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i almost think

they should pinch hit for him in situations like this. you just KNOW hes not gonna get a hit

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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 29, 2008 9:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was about to write the same thing

it would never happen…but I would have loved to have Doumit hitting there

by DITO on Apr 29, 2008 9:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was visiting my parents this weekend, and my 60-year-old mild-mannered kindergarten teacher mom kept calling LaRoche a “p*y.” It was pretty funny.

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Apr 29, 2008 9:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What

a pathetic swing.

by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 9:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if you can even call that a swing

Pirates Cove

by MarcB on Apr 29, 2008 9:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It’s actually kind of good to see Gomez at short.

by Charlie on Apr 29, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

cant even bunt.. wow

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by MarcB on Apr 29, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Know I'm late but
  • Saw Freddy’s error 8 times on the Mets broadcast. It was all on Freddy.
  • “Pathetic” is a kind charecterization of Adam’s alleged swing. I swing like that hitting fungos to my kid.

by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Morgan’s just terrible.

by Charlie on Apr 29, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can't believe he couldn't bunt

were the two foul balls fastball strikes?

by DITO on Apr 29, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not sure, but

he fouled them both down the third base line and we were lucky neither was caught.

by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 9:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what a waste of a pinch hit.

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by MarcB on Apr 29, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Guess it’s up to Super Nate.

by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

mclouth

cmon!!!

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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 29, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Today's Post Gazette sez

Nyjer could be our starting center fielder soon – or was that McCutcheon?

by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 9:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

dang

now its all gomez

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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 29, 2008 9:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice baserunning by Paulino, though.

by Charlie on Apr 29, 2008 9:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh, never mind, misunderstood the situation.

by Charlie on Apr 29, 2008 9:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

AAAAARRRRRGGHHHHH

Bad call – the Mets announcers will fill us in.

by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hahahaha

love the reaction^

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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 29, 2008 9:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

NONONONO! He was safe.

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Apr 29, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Looked like Bautista's hand was

on the plate before the pitcher got the tag on him.

by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

first bautista is slow.. second it was a bad call

Pirates Cove

by MarcB on Apr 29, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did Russell

go argue with the ump?

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Didn’t appear to…

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Apr 29, 2008 9:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Waiting f/ultra-slow motion with

super close zoom in – they were using it to show Santana’s grip earlier. Pretty cool.

by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 9:35 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what happened?

was it a wild pitch that Bautista broke on?

by DITO on Apr 29, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wild pitch but

Mets catcher got to it very quickly – it did not go as far away as you would expect.

by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 9:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hmmm.

Bautista’s hand went over the plate but may not have touched the plate. Very good zoom and very fair commentary by the announcers. Not saying either way, just pointing out that from one angle he looked safe, but from another he missed the plate.

by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well… he was out, though it was close. His hand hovered over the plate, but didn’t touch.

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Apr 29, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

FWIW, the Pens are about to make their series 3-0…

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Apr 29, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That'd be awesome news for me...

if I were a Penguins fan.
But I’m not, so this game is still very depressing.
And getting in the way of my studying for a final too.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 9:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Weird

Reyes w/a good lead. Yates steps off. Reyes doesn’t move. Yates fakes a throw, Reyes heads back. Too bad we don’t have a slap-hitting, good-eye, fast lead-off hitter. It helps.

by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 9:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hate you Paulino.

by Charlie on Apr 29, 2008 9:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If somebody

offers us anything for Paulino…I suggest that NH take it.

by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 9:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You could make a similar argument

for quite a few people on the team.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 9:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No guarantee he gets Reyes

although it would be nice to at least have a throw down

by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 9:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OMG!!!

Beautiful catch by Bay

by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Awesome catch.

by Charlie on Apr 29, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and he nearly doubled off Reyes

after a long run, slide, and a backhand pick just off the grass – nothing SICK about it

by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bay's catch wasn't shown again

as the inning ended. Hard to tell whether it would have been fair or foul, but Tyler Y owes Jason B a beer.

by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dodged a bullet

now let’s get some runs.

by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This game, while ugly, could be a lot worse than it is… I guess the suckiness is all relative…

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Apr 29, 2008 9:52 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Now that

Santana is out…Gomez gets a hit.

by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 9:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

C’mon Freddy, redeem yourself!

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Apr 29, 2008 9:55 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice!

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Apr 29, 2008 9:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jason-ity

strikes again.
In a bad way.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Earlier

Mets announcers said bay hitting something like .119 with runners in scoring position…so of course he strikes out with 2 in scoring position.

by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 9:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bay was so ahead of that last pitch he was half way back to the dugout before it hit the mitt.

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Apr 29, 2008 9:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You never win?

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 9:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You mean us

as Pirates fans, of course.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 9:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wouldn't know about that...

not being Mormon and all. About the wives that is.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh, and with the 5 wives thing...

in case you aren’t paying attention to the FLDS thing in Texas right now… they really don’t seem to be high school age even.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah

You sit home watching TV while other guys are getting to 2nd and 3rd.

by azibuck on Apr 29, 2008 9:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That too.

lol

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

greeaaaat

guess whos up now in the clutch??

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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 29, 2008 9:58 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Frankly

I don’t know why they are even pitching to Nady with LaRoche on deck.

by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 9:58 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well

they walked him.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 9:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wowww

laroche
walk

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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 29, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The only way he can score.

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Apr 29, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ha

what an idiot…just throw him fastballs down the middle

by DITO on Apr 29, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

why the hell wasn’t doumit batting there

by poorboywilly on Apr 29, 2008 10:03 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Paulino's ability to call the game?

Why didn’t Mienkowicz pinch-hit for Bautista? I’d have more confidence in him at least getting a sacrifice fly in that situation.

by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 10:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Call the damn game

from the dugout then…because on the field…he’s extremely close to totally useless.

by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 10:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Maybe Paulino & Morris

could team up as bench coaches to call games.

by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 10:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i'd rather have

Mientkewicz playing 3B every day. Or Gomez. But maybe Gomez needs to play SS.

by poorboywilly on Apr 29, 2008 10:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Paulino is useless. Ugh.

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Apr 29, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just like that

we run through scoring chances like water

by DITO on Apr 29, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

god da** it

Paulino.
1 pitch?

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what a waste man. two innings with base loaded due to wild bullpen work by the mets and we cant bust this one open.

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by MarcB on Apr 29, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sanchez throws

eight balls in 10 pitches…then Bautista swings at 4 in 5 pitches and rolls one to third…and Ronny pops up on the first one. Nice patience guys.

by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tease, tease, tease, tease.

A wonder I haven’t keeled over w/a heart attack this year.

by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They don’t need any with our offense.

by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mets announcers openly announced

that the question w/Grabow is where he will be traded

by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 10:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Same with

Marte. And Nady. And hopefully Paulino. And maybe even Jack. And Jason-ity.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And now

we get to face their closer.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Argh, I hate Billy Wagner

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Apr 29, 2008 10:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One inning

too late?

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't like Russell so much

This is near buffoonery. Why didn’t Doumit bat in the 8th?

by azibuck on Apr 29, 2008 10:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

apparently mclouth is

0-0 being beaned in his one matchup vs. wagner

by poorboywilly on Apr 29, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

C’mon Nate…

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Apr 29, 2008 10:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OH NO

what if Paulino gets injured? aahahahahah

by poorboywilly on Apr 29, 2008 10:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mientkiewicz?

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Put Morris into catch

oh that’s right – we cut him finally

by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 10:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mets announcers:

That’s great base-running by Bixler

by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 10:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It is...

he didn’t get thrown out trying to make it a 2-bag steal. And he didn’t over-slide the bag. It’s gotta be a first for the Pirates this season.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is Rivas still on the team?

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

smart baserunning by bixler, holy crap!!

Pirates Cove

by MarcB on Apr 29, 2008 10:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gah.

Come on Nate. You’re better than that.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

1 pitch out

from Gomez.
Brilliant.
And Sanchez up now.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WooooHooooo

You don’t know how close that looked to an out

by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 10:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nope.

I don’t.
I know that we’re tied though.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Freddy!

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Woooooo!

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Apr 29, 2008 10:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

freddy making it up… NICE!

Pirates Cove

by MarcB on Apr 29, 2008 10:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sigh.

Bad Jason-ity again.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Looks

like we will go to the bottom of the 9th tied. Bay K’s again.

by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 10:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's amazing...

...what not being down by 6 in the first inning does for ya!

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Apr 29, 2008 10:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oh god

this is going to be one unholy defensive alignment

by poorboywilly on Apr 29, 2008 10:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

More like one unholy pitching alignment. Russell is hoping Osoria can get through an inning so then they can put Capps in the ninth spot. Not a great bargain, I don’t think.

by Charlie on Apr 29, 2008 10:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No more so

than the rest of the night.

by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 10:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why let

Wright beat us…walk to set up DP.

by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 10:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just letting us taste the possibility of a win

thinking that we’re that close, and WHAM! It’s pulled away like a HS cheerleader telling you you’re just not cool enought to kiss.

by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 10:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

5-3 Pens

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Apr 29, 2008 10:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

bonus baseball

that’s why I’m not managing.

by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 10:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Whew. Osoria did it.

by Charlie on Apr 29, 2008 10:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Extra innings!

It’s been a while.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanx - I still have

flashbacks to the powder-blue uniforms and the hockey season ending in March, with no sign of the Penguins in the game.

by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 10:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kinda glad we had that postponed game last night now.

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Apr 29, 2008 10:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Who is left on the bench right now?

Rivas & Mientkiewicz only?

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

X-Man, Black Hole & Bautista

due up.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Definitely

“the”

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

X-man out...

what lowers the chances of scoring this inning to near 0.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What do you mean?

“Near zero”...more like less than zero.

by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 10:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The sports pessimist in me

has died due to too much exposure to the Pirates & officials in the NBA.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Guess that Piniero isn't that bad

Reds have one hit off him in 7 innings. So what he did against the Bucs wasn’t a 1 shot deal.

by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 10:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wow the black hole got on base…

Pirates Cove

by MarcB on Apr 29, 2008 10:35 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Speaking of LaRoche

he has 2 BB’s today.
Someone needs to take the Mets pitchers aside and thrash them. How do you walk him? And then how do you do it again?

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if you change "the game"

to “a game”, then your hopes will definitely come true. At some point in the some-what near future.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Paulino needs a hit here.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

boy

I wish Doumit could be batting right now

by poorboywilly on Apr 29, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice to see

Bautista making up for LaRoche’s accidental double. Teamwork!

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Apr 29, 2008 10:38 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed

other teams would screw it up by having the 2nd batter drive the run in.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

god Paulino.

There’s no need to trade him to the Mets. He’s already playing for them.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wrong NY team

if Paulino’s going to NY…likely to be the Yankees with Posada out.

by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 10:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Assuming this game goes on for a while

it would be interesting to see how we use JVB…as a pitcher…or as a hitter.

by Thunder on Apr 29, 2008 10:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He's gotta get an at bat

before Rivas… right? Right?

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Osoria gets it done. Wow.

by Charlie on Apr 29, 2008 10:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mientkiewicz, Nate & Gomez.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mientki boo'd by Mets fans and

Mets announcers ponder the imponderable – who has the longer name, Mientki or VonWonderSchuten?

by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 10:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One pitch out

for Mientkiewicz.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Freddy?

Did the “lean back, hands-up” don’t hit me move for a pitch over the middle of the plate. Not sure what that was all about.

by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 10:51 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is that ump enormous or is Freddy short?

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Apr 29, 2008 10:52 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

JVB!

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

JVB leaned in while Paulino was giving him his signs.

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Apr 29, 2008 10:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why JVB is in the minors

1st batter – inside, outside, 0-2 count. Middle of the plate, single.

2nd batter – when two umps emphatically call a balk, you know there’s a problem.

by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 10:59 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did I miss something? Where the hell is Capps?

by Charlie on Apr 29, 2008 10:59 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He only enters

in save situations?

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 11:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Great.

Man on 3rd.
And Reyes is up… 3-3 on the night.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 11:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We walk Reyes, and we're not going to

walk the bases full? Incredible. Reyes will steal on the 1st pitch.

by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 11:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Got to 2nd

on “defensive indifference”. What was the point of the walk then?

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 11:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just don't get this

JVB should be the last guy used. Randolph used Wagner starting in the 9th. what are we saving Capps for?

by azibuck on Apr 29, 2008 11:01 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Makes sense.
You don’t wanna tire him out.
Who knows how old he’ll be when we get there.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 11:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They were leading in the 9th inning

and he blew it.
We’re tied right now.

Stupid reason, but I really can’t think of any other reason.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 11:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah

no idea why he didn’t start the inning.
Stupid decision.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 11:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Defensive indifference. That could be our team slogan.

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Apr 29, 2008 11:03 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol

works on offense (for the most part) & pitching too.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 11:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Though...

“get us out of here” works well too.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 11:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

walk

just what we want, the bases juiced with the game on the line and possibly the NL’s best hitter due up.

by johnnycuff on Apr 29, 2008 11:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Russell has not

even looked like he’s coming off the bench, whether to argue a call or to mentor his players. It’s almost like he’s in a trace – I mean trance.

by Trogluddite on Apr 29, 2008 11:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Same here.

I’ll miss the beginning of the game.
Therefore 5 or 6 runs…

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 11:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Game.

FU**

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 29, 2008 11:05 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

jvb will never work as a pitcher

do the rick ankiel approach

You're a Pirates fan?

by thegetupkids on Apr 29, 2008 11:06 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is this the John Russell equivalent

to Jim Tracy`s decision in the McCleary game? I don`t get it from what I`ve read here. And after a rain day, we still would use JVB? If they didn`t want to use Capps in a tied game, then why not Meek? Maybe there is a reason, but I can`t figure it out yet.

by patthatt on Apr 29, 2008 11:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The players stink, no doubt, but Russell...

He didn’t put his players in position to succeed. We had chances in the 7th and 8th, and especially the 8th, I just don’t understand how you don’t bat Doumit for Bautista or Paulino with the bases jammed, a righty on the mound, and no lefties left in the NY pen. Text fucking book. I’m all for out of the box thinking, but not there. I highly doubt Randolph brings in Wagner, so it’s Doumit v. Sanchez. That’s the matchup you want. Then, he burns Doumit leading off the 9th v. Wagner, and PR’s for him. I just… I just don’t get that.

Capps should have been available for two innings. Instead we got JVB.

by azibuck on Apr 29, 2008 11:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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