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Pittsburgh vs. Atlanta, 3 AprilĀ 2008

Pittsburgh Pirates at Atlanta Braves, Apr 3, 2008 7:10 PM EDT


Zach Duke vs. Mike Hampton, 7:00 on FSNP and WPGB.

Hampton is making his first start since 2005; good for him.

Amazingly, Hampton's still on that massive $121 million contract the Rockies signed him to after the 2000 season. He got a $20 million signing bonus after that deal, he's making $15 million this year and he's got a no-brainer $6 million buyout coming on his $20 million 2009 club option before he even throws a pitch next year. (And let's be honest, he probably won't. Throw a pitch next year, that is.) Three teams (the Rockies, the Braves, and the Marlins, who took on a bunch of money before sending Hampton to Atlanta without his throwing a pitch for them) have paid at least $20 million of that contract. Since signing the contract, Hampton has just 53 wins and two full seasons with an ERA below league average.

Most teams are understandably unwilling to hand out eight-year contracts for pitchers now, but the big problem with a lot of these big contracts for pitchers is that teams just aren't picking the right pitchers. Three of the worst and most expensive contracts ever given to pitchers - Hampton's, Barry Zito's, and Chan Ho Park's - were given to guys who allowed more than 90 walks in the season before the contract. If you're going to give a huge contract to a pitcher, give it to Johan Santana, not the guy with the Kip Wells-like walk totals. Some of these contracts probably could have been avoided if teams had understood DIPS better at the time.

Anyway, I should be in the comments for a good portion of this one. Here's the box.

 

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Hampton--Not so much

http://raisethejollyroger21.blogspot.com

by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 3, 2008 7:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jeff Bennett.

I like our chances.

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

freddy

wow. that was the worst swing i've seen out of him in a while

http://raisethejollyroger21.blogspot.com

by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 3, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Paulino

any reason for Ronnie starting or just rotation?

by Chester J Lampwick on Apr 3, 2008 7:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

why the heck

is turner field unbelievably empty? weathers bad but still

http://raisethejollyroger21.blogspot.com

by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 3, 2008 7:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

They said

they were going to rotate Paulino and Doumit based on matchups. I'm guessing they liked him against Hampton.

by DITO on Apr 3, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good news

I picked up Y Escobar for my fantasy team today, so he's guaranteed not to hurt us.

by 19maz60 on Apr 3, 2008 7:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well...

Paulino still stinks

by DITO on Apr 3, 2008 7:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

...

Ronnie Ballgame really knows how to look at a third strike.

by matskralc on Apr 3, 2008 7:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Russell's restraint

You just know he wanted to pinch hit with Doumit even in the second.

by TPenaRules on Apr 3, 2008 7:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I actually get to WATCH the Pirates

As a displaced Pirates fan I usually follow the Bucs via XM radio. Thanks to a free preview of MLB Extra Innings on my cable system, I am actually getting to WATCH the Pirates tonight. Unfortunately it the Atlanta (Sports South) telecast... the announcers are horrible.

by Deaner on Apr 3, 2008 7:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

McLouth

That's pretty similar to the double he had yesterday. Hopefully we'll see a lot of those.

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 7:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That's our Jack

First pitch swinging!

by matskralc on Apr 3, 2008 7:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I know I'm not alone in this opinion,

but I have to say one more time that McLouth looks like he is going to have a really good year.

by DITO on Apr 3, 2008 7:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

McLouth scores

on a groundout by Sanchez. 1-0.

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 7:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And we're on the board!

Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...

by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 7:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I hate to jinx this,

but Zach Duke actually doesn't look terrible out there.

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 8:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Duke's numbers

I think my TV has a glitch. I keep seeing 9's instead of 8's as the first digit on the radar gun when Duke's pitching.

by TPenaRules on Apr 3, 2008 8:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

GRRR...

C'mon, we've all been thinking the exact same thing, but nobody was actually going to SAY it...

http://raisethejollyroger21.blogspot.com

by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 3, 2008 8:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

not only is he spotting his fastball well, it has a little bit of...well..umph

by DITO on Apr 3, 2008 8:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

CHARLIE!

that infield single is your fault

by DITO on Apr 3, 2008 8:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yunel Escobar absolutely owns the Buccos. It's kinda sad.
Getting him out a couple of times would be nice.

Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...

by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 8:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

WOW!

Nyjer Morgan, eat your heart out!

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 8:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What DITO said

McClouth can play a little, can't he?

by TPenaRules on Apr 3, 2008 8:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Holy crap

he was on his horse the whole way and he caught it while still on the run. That was a great play.

by DITO on Apr 3, 2008 8:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh man

His read on that ball was just great. He was moving as soon as the ball came off the bat. There's no way Morgan could have made that play. Maybe Duffy could have.

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Laced.

Nice hit by Bautista.

This game has been pretty fun to watch so far.

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 8:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice at bat by Bautista there.

Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...

by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 8:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think he just did.

Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...

by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn

I had flipped to the Yankees Blue Jays game, what was Bautista's hit?

by DITO on Apr 3, 2008 8:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ronny Ballgame!

http://raisethejollyroger21.blogspot.com

by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 3, 2008 8:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yankees-Blue Jays??

It's not June yet - you can still be a Pirates fan!

by TPenaRules on Apr 3, 2008 8:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well

it was a commercial and I have McGowan on a fantasy team

by DITO on Apr 3, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I have Hughes on mine.

A pox on both your houses!

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I avoided the Yankees & Jays, both!

Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...

by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bennett's done

Boyer in.
Bennett goes 4 innings, gives up 4 hits, 2 runs (both earned) while K'ing 3 and walking 2.

Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...

by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 8:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I thought

Bennett looked like a pretty decent pitcher. I had never watched him before.

by DITO on Apr 3, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bay strikes out

That's how you get him, down and away. Good pitch by Boyer.

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Josh Willingham

is my fourth outfielder in a 12 team H2H league...should I drop him in favor of McLouth?

by DITO on Apr 3, 2008 8:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yes.

i think so, at least.

Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...

by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's a tough call.

I don't know. I'm not a Willingham fan - there isn't a lot of upside there. But he has a better track record than McLouth. I'd probably do it, just so I could root for McLouth.

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Corky Miller...

is starting?

Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...

by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah.

He's still playing baseball?

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't you remember him?

He was the last out in the marathon that took place on Monday.

Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...

by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

Assumed as much, tried to return the favor.
Unfortunately, sarcasm doesn't travel well online.

Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...

by UtesFan89 on Apr 4, 2008 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow

duke being effective yet that was his first K?

http://raisethejollyroger21.blogspot.com

by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 3, 2008 8:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Martin Prado

Man, he's just killing us.

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 8:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Escobar

was just retired. For the 2nd time in the game. Amazing.

Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...

by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 8:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Rivas?

whats up with fred?

http://raisethejollyroger21.blogspot.com

by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 3, 2008 8:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

McGowan

just loaded the bases for A Rod

by DITO on Apr 3, 2008 8:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh man, c'mon.

What's Ugly-Shoes Rivas doing in there?

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 8:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Seriously, though.

Is Freddy OK? I was watching with the sound off and assumed it was a standard double switch, until I saw that Duke was still in the game.

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

announcers are suspicous

because he is in the dugout, just sitting, not getting any type of medical attention

http://raisethejollyroger21.blogspot.com

by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 3, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A trade?

Or is Luis really a better defensive player?

Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...

by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I had to guess

I'd say they're just being extra careful about Freddy's shoulder. But I dunno. It's weird.

by EmmaOMG on Apr 3, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

chipper

is hitting everything

You're a Pirates fan?

by thegetupkids on Apr 3, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Great hit by Francoeur.

I'd probably take Duke out of there - he's not throwing strikes anymore.

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 8:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Link

Sorry to be off message but Bucco Blog posted a good interview with Kyle Stark today. Here's the link. Charlie I thought you might want to link it on the main page.

http://pittsburghpirates.buccoblog.com/ten-questions-with-pittsburgh-pirates-director-of-player-development-kyle-stark/

by dtoddwin on Apr 3, 2008 9:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How

is he over 100 pitches with 0 bb and 1 k?

by DITO on Apr 3, 2008 9:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Take. Duke. Out.

Matt Diaz is a good hitter. Ugh.

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 9:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dang.

Lead cut in half.

Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...

by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 9:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Kotsay the lefty

this should be his last hitter.

by bolton on Apr 3, 2008 9:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jack?

why no throw?

by DITO on Apr 3, 2008 9:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That's not clear to me either.

Good slide by Diaz, though.

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gets Kotsay

But he started 2-0 against the batter for about the 18th consecutive time. He's lucky he can't hit.

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 9:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I guess

it was a slow roller, I didn't see where the runner was

by DITO on Apr 3, 2008 9:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No, I think you were right.

He still could have made the throw, IMO.

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Big AB

cmon duke

http://raisethejollyroger21.blogspot.com

by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 3, 2008 9:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Freddy

Freddy made that lollipop throw in the third inning. I was worried at the time that the shoulder was hurt. But he made one routine play after that.

by dtoddwin on Apr 3, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Come on

Osoria had been up for a little while...why wasn't he brought in against the right handed hitter?

by DITO on Apr 3, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ugh.

Corky Miller beating us. Duke should have been out of there several batters ago. I don't understand what Russell's thinking.

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Corky Miller...

just tied the game up.

Corky Miller.

Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...

by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Scary thought:

maybe he is already afraid to go to the pen

by DITO on Apr 3, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he needs this out...bad

and why is Marte warming up and osoria sitting down

http://raisethejollyroger21.blogspot.com

by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 3, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jack Wilson

Well, that was uncharacteristic.

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Man, he is still in there!

Did Russell fall asleep? What is going on?!

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

New manager.
Same crap.

Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...

by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 9:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh man

now he just stared down the ump after going down 3-0 and threw a fourth pitch fastball at the eyes...

by DITO on Apr 3, 2008 9:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's past time

Does it even matter?
The lead is gone. The offense is, well... the Pirates offense.
And we've seen the bullpen this year.

Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...

by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's kind of nice, in a sense, watching the same team every year

Like Thanksgiving dinner at Grandma's house, it's a comforting tradition many of us have known all our lives.

by matskralc on Apr 3, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really unfortunate for Duke

If he would have come out right after the first run when Osoria was up and ready he would still feel good about the start

by DITO on Apr 3, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

For reals

That was an uncomfortably Tracy-like move. I'm watching you, Russell.

by EmmaOMG on Apr 3, 2008 9:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah really

116 pitches! What's that about?!

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ugh

I don't know what he was doing.

"I got my pregnant wife (the Yankee fan) with me. Hoping my kid learns to kick her everytime the Mets score." -Schifftis-

by future on Apr 3, 2008 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hate to say it

It's a small, small thing, but Jack should have made that relay on that one play. They just showed the replay and he had plenty of time. Same thing would have happened to him whether he threw it or not.

by azibuck on Apr 3, 2008 9:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Agree

Wilson's to blame for not getting the throw away and then an error to boot. I'd say Duke could punch him in the face after this inning eventually ends, but it might improve Jack's face.

"I got my pregnant wife (the Yankee fan) with me. Hoping my kid learns to kick her everytime the Mets score." -Schifftis-

by future on Apr 3, 2008 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

one thing

until the last walk, duke still was throwing OK. The singles were not hit hard and he should have been out of the inning twice.

http://raisethejollyroger21.blogspot.com

by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 3, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Love the comment system

Charlie, what you said.

by azibuck on Apr 3, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks.

I'll pass that along.

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

the breakup slide was kind of late, too. He had plenty of room to get off a balanced throw.

by DITO on Apr 3, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I thought it

should have been obstruction. Diaz completely slid through Wilson, way off from the bag and then just nicked the bag afterwards. But the Braves are always going to get that call at home.

"I got my pregnant wife (the Yankee fan) with me. Hoping my kid learns to kick her everytime the Mets score." -Schifftis-

by future on Apr 3, 2008 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe

Russell was hoping Duke would get through the inning and then he could pinch-hit for him next inning. Instead, he only gets Osoria for 0.1 innings.

Not justifying it, but maybe... for some odd reason...

Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...

by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice stop by Ronny.

Credit where it's due.

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Trying to get Duke a win?

Maybe it was an attempt to boost confidence that backfired?

by TPenaRules on Apr 3, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't know...

It was the sixth inning, not the fifth.

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I meant after it was tied - gave him a couple extra batters just hoping he'd get out of it with a chance. I can't think of any other reason.

by TPenaRules on Apr 3, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm telling you

Duke was out of the inning twice and wasn't giving up big hits. Only one batter two late..not like 5

http://raisethejollyroger21.blogspot.com

by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 3, 2008 9:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

But the unnecessary piling on of PAP

seems really stupid in the first start of the season, especially in cold damp weather.

"I got my pregnant wife (the Yankee fan) with me. Hoping my kid learns to kick her everytime the Mets score." -Schifftis-

by future on Apr 3, 2008 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

and he was starting every single batter with two or three balls. I don't know why, but he was having real trouble throwing strikes, well before the real problems started.

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think

he probably just felt Duke was the better option to get Kotsay & Miller out, even though he was tiring.

by DITO on Apr 3, 2008 9:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Did the first base umpire

Feel like doing the make up call?

"I got my pregnant wife (the Yankee fan) with me. Hoping my kid learns to kick her everytime the Mets score." -Schifftis-

by future on Apr 3, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Replay shows

Paulino hustled his ass down there. Nice!

"I got my pregnant wife (the Yankee fan) with me. Hoping my kid learns to kick her everytime the Mets score." -Schifftis-

by future on Apr 3, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

Bad call, in any case. But I'll take it.

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

look at that hustle!!!

http://raisethejollyroger21.blogspot.com

by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 3, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

OMG

Paulino just hustled!

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Paulino!?!?!!!

Did Paulino actually outrun that?

by Pirates_of_the_Windy_City on Apr 3, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Alright

a little luck...hopefully Gomez can get on base

by DITO on Apr 3, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm really not liking the make-up of the bench when the team needs a pinch hitter.

Biased Fan
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wait

That was Ronny Jogger?

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Apr 3, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hard into second, too.

The replay looked pretty close to a tie so I think he got it right.

by DITO on Apr 3, 2008 9:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Come on

Nate!

Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...

by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 9:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Any word on Freddy?

Just an "as a precaution" move?

Biased Fan
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yahoo saying...

"undisclosed injury"

Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...

by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

McLouth

...with no logo on his undershirt sleeve?

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Apr 3, 2008 9:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jack

Popped a hammy?

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Apr 3, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh shit

Jack Wilson hurt, after tying the game with what would have easily been a double. He's at first right now.

"I got my pregnant wife (the Yankee fan) with me. Hoping my kid learns to kick her everytime the Mets score." -Schifftis-

by future on Apr 3, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Crap

who is left on the bench

by DITO on Apr 3, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Morgan?
Doumit?
& Mientkiewicz.

Gomez just pinch-hit, Rivas is already in.

Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...

by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

RBI single ties game

But now Wilson's hurt.

Hey Bixler, didn't expect to see you so soon!

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he seems too upset...

for it just to be a cramp

by Deaner on Apr 3, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Both middle infielders.....

Gone in the same game. That's 15 day DL

by dtoddwin on Apr 3, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Rain

Suddenly, "Blame it on the Rain" might be poignant

by Pirates_of_the_Windy_City on Apr 3, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No cramp

Or Wilson's a drama queen. He hopped down the line, putting no weight on it.

by azibuck on Apr 3, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He looks hurt bad.

He's not putting any weight on the leg, but he's not being carried off.

Even without the passed ball, I think Wilson would have driven in the run from first base.

"I got my pregnant wife (the Yankee fan) with me. Hoping my kid learns to kick her everytime the Mets score." -Schifftis-

by future on Apr 3, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Minkiewicz

to 3rd, Rivas to SS, Bautista to 2nd?

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Apr 3, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sanchez

The Trib thinks it's the shoulder:

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/valleyindependent/teenscene/s_560570.html

That seems reasonable. That throw WAS weird.

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm betting Achilles

He's hobbling off but it doesn't look good at all.

by azibuck on Apr 3, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He does that sometimes.

I think he had a couple pinch running appearances last year. It works; he's athletic enough.

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gomez will stay in

and play short I guess, right?

by DITO on Apr 3, 2008 9:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ah reminds me of my youth

Man the Padres sucked.

"I got my pregnant wife (the Yankee fan) with me. Hoping my kid learns to kick her everytime the Mets score." -Schifftis-

by future on Apr 3, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Infield

Rivas to short, Gomez at third, Bautista at second? Jose doesn't look too comfortable, either. Stretching constantly.

by TPenaRules on Apr 3, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Had to pinch run a pitcher

and save the bench player

by DITO on Apr 3, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Injuires.....

Freddy's shoulder isn't going away and Wilson's probably gone 3 weeks if he actually pulled his calf muscle. Should be interesting to see how gets the nod at short.

by dtoddwin on Apr 3, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't know if this has been commented on but...

You've gotta love Rivas' shoes! Bright white with his name on them!

by Deaner on Apr 3, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gomez to 2nd, Rivas to short, Grabow pitching & batting 2nd.

Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...

by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And...

Grabow got Chipper on 2 pitches.
Nice.

Biased Fan
A disillusioned Pirates fan in Utah...

by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rivas.....

Is going to get the audition he failed with the Twins 5 years ago over the next three weeks.

by dtoddwin on Apr 3, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh my.

I hope you're wrong. That was the longest, most painful audition ever.

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And

He just flubbed the first note.

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

good job...

it must be the shoes

by Deaner on Apr 3, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fulton County Stadium

Didn't it have the worst infield in history? Looks like they're back there this series.

by TPenaRules on Apr 3, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ughhhhhhh

You're a Pirates fan?

by thegetupkids on Apr 3, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Completely off topic, but...

Kei Igawa no hit Lehigh Valley for 6 innings. And then got pulled. You'd think they'd let him go for the no hitter, even if it is just AAA.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 9:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Russell:

"Stat guys, quick! What's the record for balls thrown in a game?"

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dear God

Batista sucks.

"I got my pregnant wife (the Yankee fan) with me. Hoping my kid learns to kick her everytime the Mets score." -Schifftis-

by future on Apr 3, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

omg

You're a Pirates fan?

by thegetupkids on Apr 3, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Rivas's shoes are grey?

The laces are blindingly white.

by azibuck on Apr 3, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Grabow's gotten 4 outs

http://raisethejollyroger21.blogspot.com

by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 3, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

K...

do we blame the pitchers?
or the fielders?
or the guys that put the team together?
Cuz this is just painful.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And then there's hope again

Really, as the song goes, it's our own damn fault.

by TPenaRules on Apr 3, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The only way to get outs

Strike outs...and pray Paulino holds onto the ball.

"I got my pregnant wife (the Yankee fan) with me. Hoping my kid learns to kick her everytime the Mets score." -Schifftis-

by future on Apr 3, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

See future...

That's what I am talking about.

"I got my pregnant wife (the Yankee fan) with me. Hoping my kid learns to kick her everytime the Mets score." -Schifftis-

by future on Apr 3, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

tie ballgame still

by DITO on Apr 3, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tie is good

for now.
Heart of the line-up (if there is one) coming up.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

grabow and marte

switching roles?

http://raisethejollyroger21.blogspot.com

by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 3, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Assuming the worst (because it's what I do)

have a 2nd baseman in the minors that they can call up? Or are we stuck with Rivas.
And Bixler at short, right?

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 9:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Freddy's OK

"Manager's discretion" due to the weather, Lanny said.

by TPenaRules on Apr 3, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay,

That's good news.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Phew.

Too bad that apparently exhausted his supply of discretion for the day.

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep.

Way too bad.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Acosta

we shelled him monday

http://raisethejollyroger21.blogspot.com

by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 3, 2008 9:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't remember

Bay walking this much last year.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 9:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

A-Rod?

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously though...

no one.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Still...

Not a good swing.

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dang

nice pitch

http://raisethejollyroger21.blogspot.com

by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 3, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jack Wilson

left the game due to an injured leg.

According to MLB.com. Though we already knew that.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bay walks to start the inning...

LaRoche, Nady & Bautista can't drive him in.
Who else are we supposed to turn to in that type of situation?

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Calf

Sport South just said it was supposedly Wilson's calf muscle

by Pirates_of_the_Windy_City on Apr 3, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nice pitch(es)

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Apr 3, 2008 9:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Gotay just walked twice. Oh wait. This umpire is so entertainingly not even close to consistent.

"I got my pregnant wife (the Yankee fan) with me. Hoping my kid learns to kick her everytime the Mets score." -Schifftis-

by future on Apr 3, 2008 9:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Grabow!

What a stab.

"I got my pregnant wife (the Yankee fan) with me. Hoping my kid learns to kick her everytime the Mets score." -Schifftis-

by future on Apr 3, 2008 9:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wilson

P-G says apparent knee injury. Anyone have hamstring in the pool? Achilles? Shoulder?

by TPenaRules on Apr 3, 2008 9:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yahoo says

apparent left calf injury

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hammy

or Achilles

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Apr 3, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shoulder

Is a dark-horse (of course, I didn't see the play).
Put me down for Achilles though.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Soriano

Is he their closer?

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

Good one, too.

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ronny

1st pitch swinging. :(

And where's Doumit?

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 9:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Doumit

Is now Marte's personal catcher. We'll see that famous tandem in the 12th.

by TPenaRules on Apr 3, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Holy hell

217 comments? Gotta be a record.

by bucdaddy on Apr 3, 2008 9:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Definitely.

Constantly refreshing is a huge pain.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

K Nate...

Something nice, please.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 9:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

just not a K...

You're a Pirates fan?

by thegetupkids on Apr 3, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that

was inside

by DITO on Apr 3, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow

I'd never noticed this, but the Braves are saying that McLouth has NEVER been thrown out by a catcher.

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that

was a nice changeup

by DITO on Apr 3, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What?

That looked low to me.

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Have you been watching?

This zone is all over the place.

"I got my pregnant wife (the Yankee fan) with me. Hoping my kid learns to kick her everytime the Mets score." -Schifftis-

by future on Apr 3, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

But it's only been all over the place for the Braves. It's okay with me if only Ruben Gotay gets the shaft. :)

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

maybe, but it was also fading late

by DITO on Apr 3, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Grabow...

done, right?
Or does he have another inning left?

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yates!

I like this guy.

by EmmaOMG on Apr 3, 2008 10:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh man

A fan came on the field and pretended the resin bag was a grenade, and then ran away from security, and we didn't get to see it? Come on!

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ha

what did they say happened? A fan grabbed the rosin bag, threw it, and was being chased in the outfield?

by DITO on Apr 3, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Something like that.

Apparently did a good job eluding security too.

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like

the one manager for a Braves minor league team.
That was a hilarious display.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I forgot about that

that must be what the fan was replaying

by DITO on Apr 3, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Watched the video last week...

always good if you want a laugh.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chipper K's

!!!

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 10:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yates has some guts.

Throwing a fastball right down the pike to Jones like that.

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 10:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Isn't it time

a 30+ year old man stops being "Chipper?"

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Apr 3, 2008 10:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wilson

PG now saying Jack has a strained calf. Day to day and will be reevaluated tomorrow.

by Thunder on Apr 3, 2008 10:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

P-G

DK jumped the gun. He's still trying to tie it to the Diaz slide somehow (not clear if it had any impact, he says).

by TPenaRules on Apr 3, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That almost popped out of Bautista's glove. Sheesh.

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Apr 3, 2008 10:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good trade

Redmon might win a Cy Young with Atlanta, but he would have blown his arm out in Altoona if he stayed a Buc. At least Yates has thrown 3 good innings without getting hurt.

by TPenaRules on Apr 3, 2008 10:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Honestly, I don't think...

Redmond will ever get to the big leagues, unless it's as a fringy reliever.

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

But his chances did improve by changing systems. Not sure why exactly, but history certainly is on his side now.

by TPenaRules on Apr 3, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's true.

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When that's a good thing

something is seriously wrong.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Resop

lets rough up this bum

by DITO on Apr 3, 2008 10:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nyjer!

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 10:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wilson

I'm telling you he pulled his calf and will be out 2-4 weeks depending on how severe. I've done it, it sucks.

by dtoddwin on Apr 3, 2008 10:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If true

hopefully they call up Bixler instead of starting Gomez.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea hoping for a steal instead of a bunt

You're a Pirates fan?

by thegetupkids on Apr 3, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was Rivas, though.

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

true

You're a Pirates fan?

by thegetupkids on Apr 3, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doesn't matter

Off a righty, Morgan ought to be able to swipe that bag with the whole world knowing he's going to.

by azibuck on Apr 3, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice work by Morgan

Laying off that inside pitch when it was 2-1. Leadoff walk.

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 10:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'll never understand it

Bunting over a guy with that kind of speed.

by azibuck on Apr 3, 2008 10:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He doesn't steal bases that effectively, and Luis Rivas was at the plate.

I still wouldn't have bunted, but I guess that'd be the rationale.

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bunting

To third works for me - but not to second with no one out. Get him to third with a chance for a sac fly.

by TPenaRules on Apr 3, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Make sure you get him to second...

let him use the speed coming around third to score.

by Trogluddite on Apr 3, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only works...

if someone else gets a hit.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

royce ring on his way in

He dominated LaRoche the other night.

by bolton on Apr 3, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

by

Bartolo Colon

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

morgan

is at least distracting the pitcher

You're a Pirates fan?

by thegetupkids on Apr 3, 2008 10:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice

No DP! No DP!

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 10:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

As per Braves announcers

"The home plate umpire is having a tough night"

by Trogluddite on Apr 3, 2008 10:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What?

Resop is in the outfield? What the...?

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 10:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Huh?

Um... aim to left field Adam.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 10:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

jeebus

LaRoche has a LONG swing

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Apr 3, 2008 10:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

great

You're a Pirates fan?

by thegetupkids on Apr 3, 2008 10:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ugh

How have we not already won this game? THEY HAVE A PITCHER PLAYING LEFT FIELD FOR GOD'S SAKE

by EmmaOMG on Apr 3, 2008 10:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LaRoche

now 0-5 for the game.
Brilliant.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 10:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

pitcher in outfield to come back in game later

has that happened before?

You're a Pirates fan?

by thegetupkids on Apr 3, 2008 10:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

X-man!

Can't waste this opportunity.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 10:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Resop pitching again

Blanco to left.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 10:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Never seen anyone

use it like this. interesting strategy.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's like something out of a bad baseball movie or something.

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that

was pretty cool

by DITO on Apr 3, 2008 10:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Resop relieving himself on the mound

Hey, it was the Braves announcers, not me.

by Trogluddite on Apr 3, 2008 10:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

X-man!

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 10:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Can Pearce

handle first base?

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 10:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

his natural position

switched to right b/c they see him as being blocked by laroche

by DITO on Apr 3, 2008 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nady

5 yrs. $55MM...Juan Pierre money

by dtoddwin on Apr 3, 2008 10:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

3 outs.

Francoeur, Blanco & Kotsay coming up.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 10:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Trade Nady Now for...

a AA 1st baseman/corner outfielder and 2x middle relievers.

by Trogluddite on Apr 3, 2008 10:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully

he could get that much...and hopefully he will be on the phone with some teams in the coming weeks

by DITO on Apr 3, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aack!

I was joking, trying to come up w/a Littlefield trade.

by Trogluddite on Apr 3, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, okay

nvm that then.

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why AA 1st baseman?

You have Pearce. (& LaRoche, I guess).

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Everyone take a knee,

join hands, and lets have a short prayer from the Chaplain.

by Trogluddite on Apr 3, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's

the Matt Capps I know

by DITO on Apr 3, 2008 10:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dear God

Does anything go right?

How does Morgan not catch that?

"I got my pregnant wife (the Yankee fan) with me. Hoping my kid learns to kick her everytime the Mets score." -Schifftis-

by future on Apr 3, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Awww

Nyjer, honey, no.

by EmmaOMG on Apr 3, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ugh!

Ugh! Ugh! Ugh! I hate you Morgan!

by Charlie on Apr 3, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What'd Morgan do?

Dive?

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by UtesFan89 on Apr 3, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh come on Morgan

he didn't need to leave his feet...why didn't they leave McLouth in center??

by DITO on Apr 3, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Braves Announcers

made it sound like a clean triple

by Trogluddite on Apr 3, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply