Chicago Cubs vs. Pittsburgh, 9 April 2008
by Charlie on Apr 9, 2008 4:05 PM EDT
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Chicago Cubs at Pittsburgh Pirates, Apr 9, 2008 7:05 PM EDT
It's Ryan Dempster and Zach Duke at PNC, 7:05. Dempster was terrific in his first start this year, but he's been a reliever for the last several years, and not a very good one. This looks like an opportunity for the PIrates to continue their high-scoring ways. The best-case scenario with Dempster is that he becomes the next Braden Looper. Looper was a low-wattage closer for the Marlins and Mets before the Cardinals moved him to the rotation last year. He posted a 4.94 ERA there. If I were the Cubs, I'd keep Dempster in the 'pen and go with someone like Sean Marshall. But that's just me.
Anyway, here's the box. Brian Bixler starts at shortstop; we'll see whether that can possibly be any worse than Luis Rivas, who finds himself on the bench after beginning the season as a huge liability on defense.
-P- The Pirates' AAA squad will stay in Indianapolis through at least 2012. A few weeks ago John Perrotto reported that they might move it to Buffalo, but apparently that won't happen.
-P- ESPN observes that the Miguel Cabrera and Magglio Ordonez-led Tigers are dead last in the majors in runs scored. The Pirates are fifth. Also, the Orioles are in first place and the Mets are in last. Nothing all that weird about any of that, but it's funny.
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the over/under
on mclouth homers this year, im setting at 19, what say ye bucco fans?
Aramis 5 BB - 2 K, he's come close before, I'd love to see a season from a Cubs player with more walks than strikeouts.
by kylejo on Apr 9, 2008 4:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If he ends up with 500 ABs
I'll easily say over (25)
by Bad Andy on Apr 9, 2008 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Greetings fellow NL centralites...
I'd wish you guys good luck tonight...but I don't want your team to win! LOL...anyway, you guys may get to feast on our starter tonight...we never know which Dempster is going to show up.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 9, 2008 4:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
no reason to root for us to lose
the Bucs do it themselves anyway
by Bad Andy on Apr 9, 2008 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I think you'd be hard pressed...
...to find a knowledgable Cubs fan who would vehemently disagree with you about Dempster. Then again, he does seem very focused on succeeding as a starter. He showed up to spring training in great shape, pitched very well during the spring and pitched pretty well in his first start.
I'm hoping Dempster gives the Cubs what we hoped to see from Jason Marquis last year. That is, not necessarily a dominant starter, but a guy who will eat up innings and keep the team in the game. My personal projection for Demp goes along the lines of 12 wins and 9 losses with a 4.52 ERA and a 1.51 WHIP. Not great, but decent enough.
And as a fourth- or fifth-level starter, I like Sean Marshall a lot, too. One quasi-problem with having Marshall in the rotation, though, would be that it would give the Cubs three lefty starters, and Lou would probably have to start Hill and Marshall back to back. That's not a huge deal to me, but others seem to have a problem with it.
In any case, may the best team win tonight, Bucs fans!
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Apr 9, 2008 5:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why are the Cubs starting Reed Johnson in CF? I know Pie's a lefty but come on.
by Charlie on Apr 9, 2008 7:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pens playoffs game 1
at home.
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 9, 2008 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
cuz of that
its not on TV here either
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 9, 2008 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hello from Milwaukee
I'm going to join you until our game starts add some anti-Cub synergy.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on Apr 9, 2008 7:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dempster pitched surprisingly well against the Brewers last time out.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on Apr 9, 2008 7:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cool, welcome. It may be pretty quiet tonight; this game isn't on TV and the Penguins are in the playoffs.
by Charlie on Apr 9, 2008 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
laroche
does he still not have a hit since the opener?
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 9, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
seriously there is something mentally wrong with laroche
he gets two hits in march but cant do anything in april
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by thegetupkids on Apr 9, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
La Roche means "The Rock"
That's where he gets his consistency from.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on Apr 9, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my suggestion
is to hit laroche in the 7 spot and put doumit in cleanup
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by thegetupkids on Apr 9, 2008 7:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Doumit is on my fantasy team
So I wholeheartedly agree.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on Apr 9, 2008 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
hes a sleeper
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by thegetupkids on Apr 9, 2008 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doumit is a sleeper
...and LaRoche is in a coma.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on Apr 9, 2008 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
i drafted laroche late in mine thinking he would be a sleeper since he sucked last year...those two hits in the opener got my hopes up...but alas hes done nothing
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by thegetupkids on Apr 9, 2008 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have him on both of mine. I have a feeling I'm going to be pretty glad about that in a couple months.
by Charlie on Apr 9, 2008 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe. You never know what kinds of psychological factors go into decisions like that, though.
by Charlie on Apr 9, 2008 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Cubs are so boring
...that their own announcers have been talking about the days-old NCAA championship game for five minutes.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on Apr 9, 2008 7:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
To their credit, they were talking about who Derrek Lee would be rooting for. But yeah, I mean, still!
It's still nice to have a couple quiet innings for Duke.
by Charlie on Apr 9, 2008 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For luck
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on Apr 9, 2008 7:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey!
Find your own blog to invade!
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on Apr 9, 2008 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I came over
to see what the holdup was on the Coke and pierogie.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on Apr 9, 2008 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I ordered you some
They're racing over.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on Apr 9, 2008 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So it turns out Bixler screwed up?
That's what I thought initially, but that was such a weird play.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on Apr 9, 2008 7:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it was Bixler's fault, although a dollop of blame also goes to third base coach Tony Beasley, who didn't see it coming either.
by Charlie on Apr 9, 2008 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, that Bixler play is the last thing I want to hear about right now.
by Charlie on Apr 9, 2008 7:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
(That wasn't intended as a response to you, Battlekow.)
by Charlie on Apr 9, 2008 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha, that's not why I shut up
Just nothing going on. I was actually reading about Primanti Bros on Wikipedia.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on Apr 9, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha. That play has been discussed pretty extensively here and at Where's Van Slyke. Some pretty interesting discussion.
by Charlie on Apr 9, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i could go for a primanti sammich right now
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by thegetupkids on Apr 9, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
First and third after the single by Soriano. One out. Duke doesn't seem to be having an easy time with the top of the order.
by Charlie on Apr 9, 2008 7:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
after throwing so many pitches last time out, is Duke showing any signs of fatigue early on? I'm unfortunately unable to see this game.
by Chester J Lampwick on Apr 9, 2008 7:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, his last fastball was 87, which is slow even for him. I hadn't been paying attention before now, though. In the first inning, he was up around 90.
by Charlie on Apr 9, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The short answer is that he looks about the same as he did last time out.
by Charlie on Apr 9, 2008 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Jeff Suppan can hang with Johnny Quest
...Young Jeff Suppan can hang with Ryan Dempster.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on Apr 9, 2008 7:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is Duke young Jeff Suppan? That wouldn't be too bad if he grew up to be Suppan.
Who's your signature about?
by Charlie on Apr 9, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I suppose "Jeff Suppan who is young" would be a better descriptor
They seem to have a similar (complete lack of) stuff.
Phil Garner said it about Carlos Lee last year. It was pretty funny, since Carlos Lee is a manslug.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on Apr 9, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He does steal some bases, but he would've come up about tenth on my list of Brewers that quote might have been about. Weeks? Hart? Braun? etc.
by Charlie on Apr 9, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's very canny about the basestealing
But "quick" and "Carlos Lee" have been about a meal a day away from each other for awhile now.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on Apr 9, 2008 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just back from work...
missed anything much?
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 7:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nothing too important, no. Lots of baserunners for Duke.
by Charlie on Apr 9, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's
to be expected though.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I made fun of Dempster a few hours ago, but the Pirates sure haven't figured him out.
by Charlie on Apr 9, 2008 7:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow, Duke just made Fukudome look silly. Maybe he expected a backdoor breaking ball?
by Charlie on Apr 9, 2008 7:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
whats the over under for pitch count of duke
i say 100
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by thegetupkids on Apr 9, 2008 7:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's certainly promising that he's gotten this far.
by Charlie on Apr 9, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
j bay
will solve dempster now...hoping
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by thegetupkids on Apr 9, 2008 8:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That
didn't go so well.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cheers, good luck to your Brewers tonight.
by Charlie on Apr 9, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Duke
has 3 K's so far.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 8:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. They were real ones, too, just fooling good hitters.
by Charlie on Apr 9, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did the true story behind LaRoche's thumb ever come out? Was it a true injury or was it an excuse just to keep him and his .083 BA out of the lineup?
by Chester J Lampwick on Apr 9, 2008 8:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
*checks outside for other signs of the apocolypse*
by Chester J Lampwick on Apr 9, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately
(if I'm correct) he's still hitless this month.
The apocalypse will be signaled by him getting a hit, not a walk...
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What happened to the offense?
They had 17 runs scored in the last 2 games... and they've only gotten 1 hit through 4 today.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 8:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
anyone watching this game on mlb.tv?
gameday showed the ball that doumit hit was at the center field wall basically
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by thegetupkids on Apr 9, 2008 8:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No, it was just a standard fly to deep center.
by Charlie on Apr 9, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think this is the best, smartest pitching I've seen from Duke in about a year.
by Charlie on Apr 9, 2008 8:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
a la 2007, 06, or 05?
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by thegetupkids on Apr 9, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, maybe '06. The velocity he showed in 2005 still isn't back.
by Charlie on Apr 9, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And sadly...
the 1 run allowed might still prove to be the biggest obstacle in his attempt to pick up a win.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that would suck
if this effort by duke is wasted
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by thegetupkids on Apr 9, 2008 8:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is Bixler...
looking even partially good out there?
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Looks fine on defense so far. Hasn't done much at the plate.
by Charlie on Apr 9, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tough play for the Pirates on that single by Fukudome.
I can't believe Fukudome's going to hit for much power over time if he keeps swinging like that. He didn't put his body into that ball at all.
by Charlie on Apr 9, 2008 8:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice to see
Duke get out of that without giving up a run.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i guess zach duke is growing up
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by thegetupkids on Apr 9, 2008 8:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Now,
if only the offense would follow suit.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
gotta knock dempster from the game
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by thegetupkids on Apr 9, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Dempster's just destroying them right now.
by Charlie on Apr 9, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good ole
Jason-ity
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 8:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
anyone
in the pen?
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by thegetupkids on Apr 9, 2008 8:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't know, but Duke's not really having any trouble... has he thrown too many pitches?
by Charlie on Apr 9, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The way he pitches he really
doesn't put too much stress on his arm
by Bad Andy on Apr 9, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like a solid 7 from Duke
If he can get Johnson out
by Bad Andy on Apr 9, 2008 8:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hit him!
http://raisethejollyroger21.blogspot.com
by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 9, 2008 8:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is a HUGE pitch
cmon Duke
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 9, 2008 8:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nice
way to go, what an outing for Duke!
I wish we'd score
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 9, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very good start by Duke. I'm assuming he's done.
by Charlie on Apr 9, 2008 8:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
very nice
I was very wary of Duke at the start of the season but he has impressed me so far in these two starts. And his pinch hit on Monday.
by Chester J Lampwick on Apr 9, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Finished with 116 pitches
Masterful performance now let's get some freakin' runs
by Bad Andy on Apr 9, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
its probably going to be a shame if we dont try to get him the win
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by thegetupkids on Apr 9, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Duke needed that outing
to help out the heavily used bullpen
by Bad Andy on Apr 9, 2008 8:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
seriously.
we are making dempster look like cy young
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by thegetupkids on Apr 9, 2008 8:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sorry f/the questions
just got back from work
by Trogluddite on Apr 9, 2008 8:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
offense is getting dominated by Dempster (1 hit thru 7)
Duke pitched great (1 run) even though he gave up 8 hits. still he got some K's and made clutch pitches
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 9, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Always a unique way to lose
The old lumber and lightning Bucs, circa mid-late 70's would at least win or lose big
by Trogluddite on Apr 9, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if we dont score and duke gets a loss
that's just not fair
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 9, 2008 8:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What the heck was that? Did the ball bounce off the base?
by Charlie on Apr 9, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 9, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
cant catch a break
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by thegetupkids on Apr 9, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
whew
Osoria is in, nothing can go wrong here...
by bryanzane on Apr 9, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh wow, Dempster has a one-hitter going. I didn't realize that.
by Charlie on Apr 9, 2008 9:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And the one hit
was by Jason-ity.
Shocker there.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aw geez. How many errors by pitchers are we going to have this year?
by Charlie on Apr 9, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
are you serious
what the heck?!
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 9, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
so laroche made a sweet play and osoria dropped the flip?
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by Raise the Jolly Roger on Apr 9, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this suckssssssssssssssss
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by thegetupkids on Apr 9, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dam it
can't the Bucs do anything right?
AAAAAAARRRRRRGGGHHHHHHHHH
by Bad Andy on Apr 9, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
at least the d man is out of the game
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by thegetupkids on Apr 9, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
then you got Marmol and Duke
Mind as well be over.
by Bad Andy on Apr 9, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The one problem with replacing Duke
is that the bullpen is more-or-less total crap.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i wonder...
what sean burnett is doing right now?
by bryanzane on Apr 9, 2008 9:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
FWIW he got a save tonight
as he pitched THREE scoreless innings tonight
by Bad Andy on Apr 9, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's his pitching style?
Righty, lefty?
Power pitcher or curve baller?
How many pitches?
by Trogluddite on Apr 9, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that hurt his viability
in our pen. The current crop of hard-throwers, like Yates and Capps, break up the rhythm the batters get into against our starters.
by Trogluddite on Apr 9, 2008 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bautista with a single
Is it rally time?
by Bad Andy on Apr 9, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why did Rivas just do that? I mean, what was that?
by Charlie on Apr 9, 2008 9:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Seriously, why would you try to bunt in that situation?
by Charlie on Apr 9, 2008 9:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
At least
use someone that can get a bunt down.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's more like a question I know the answer to. But come on.
by Charlie on Apr 9, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the bunt was successful
You would have runners at 2nd and 3rd for Nate to take home and tied.
by Bad Andy on Apr 9, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I had a nickel for every bunt the Pirates screwed up in the past five years...
by Charlie on Apr 9, 2008 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What?
You want Rivas swinging away there?
What the hell is going on around here? Two on, no out, Rivas at the plate? Yeah. Bunt. I don't get it (the question).
by azibuck on Apr 9, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why
even bring Rivas to the plate?
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
Where was Gomez and his veteran expertice?
by Bad Andy on Apr 9, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or a pitcher
Even the pitchers can get a bunt down, no?
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know. I'm sorry. I'm just angry. I still would not bring in Rivas in that situation, and I wouldn't bunt either.
by Charlie on Apr 9, 2008 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My man Nate but.....
if not for Rivas this game is tied.
by Bad Andy on Apr 9, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
if #$#%%%^%$#$# doesnt hit into a dp it would be tied now
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by thegetupkids on Apr 9, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's that of BS that will prevent
the Bucs from reaching .500 again this year.
by Bad Andy on Apr 9, 2008 9:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What is...
"- L. Rivas unknown into double play first to second, N. Morgan out at first"
???
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on Apr 9, 2008 9:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It is a
"bunt pop" according to MLB gameday.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rivas bunted, Lee caught it and doubled Morgan off first.
by Charlie on Apr 9, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brakes!! AGAIN, let's hang the right person
Morgan had no reason to be so far off first. Look at how he and Bautista read the play.
by azibuck on Apr 9, 2008 9:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Blame Morgan for that
but also blame Rivas for bunting it into the air.
And Russell for inserting Rivas there.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure a double steal been called?
Instead of a bunt
by Bad Andy on Apr 9, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Replay from behind home plate
Bautista sees the bunt in the air, stops. Morgan takes off. Bautista was walking (literally) back to 2nd and Morgan was still heading for 2nd full speed.
by azibuck on Apr 9, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bautista's got to be pretty frustrated with some of his teammates. :)
by Charlie on Apr 9, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So does Duke
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not brillant baserunning by Morgan
you just can't f that up. I like Morgan but GEEZ
by Bad Andy on Apr 9, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This new regime cuts its losses
if BB can be a competent, if light hitting, backup infielder then lets keep him up and use Rivas's pay elsewhere
by Trogluddite on Apr 9, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i think
this play is the one that broke the camels pack and rivas is cut tomorrow
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by thegetupkids on Apr 9, 2008 9:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sigh....
MLB just posted a clip of McL's double. Beautiful hit to the right field corner. I could have scored from second w/out having a heart attack. Too bad we didn't have a runner there.
by Trogluddite on Apr 9, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rivas
didn't commit an error there!
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bottom of the 9th...
This is it!
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Due up..
Black Hole & then Nady.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
pretty impressive
d lee has been shut down
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by thegetupkids on Apr 9, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Least the Pens are on their way
to winning Game 1
by Bad Andy on Apr 9, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
By the way, run expectancy is actually reduced with one out and runners on second and third as compared to runners on first and second. I know there was a lot of value in that second run, but still, it's probably only a borderline good play EVEN IF the bunt is successful.
by Charlie on Apr 9, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
come on lets see a kerry wood implosion!
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by thegetupkids on Apr 9, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jason-ity!!!
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 9:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by thegetupkids on Apr 9, 2008 9:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
now laroche needs to do it!!!!!!!!!!!111
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by thegetupkids on Apr 9, 2008 9:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good thing Duke saved the pen
We might be looking at several more innings.
by azibuck on Apr 9, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
good to see bay get his first homer and rbi
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by thegetupkids on Apr 9, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
its up to the x man
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by thegetupkids on Apr 9, 2008 9:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Might have to change
Black Hole to just mean LaRoche, and not both of them...
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 9:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bombay! Bombay! Bombay!
Looks like I need to go get beer more often
by Trogluddite on Apr 9, 2008 9:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Like now?
A run from X-Man or Doumit would be nice.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 for 26 from LaRoche
something get him to a strip club STAT
by Bad Andy on Apr 9, 2008 9:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the cricket lounge is still open
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by thegetupkids on Apr 9, 2008 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Baserunning
Azibuck...
I was thinking the same thing on the Rivas bunt. This gets back to the whole base running issue.
When you watch the replay keep your eyes on Bautista in comparison with Morgan. Watch his reaction in comparison.
It's clear he's thought through the situation and is thinking about what he should do ahead of time, which lets him react appropriately.
Morgan on the other hand...just reacts and is of course caught off guard.
by steve_g on Apr 9, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Come on
Doumit!
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Or, you know...
strike out looking.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now we can...
lose in true Pirate fashion. Anyone want to start a pool on how the misery is brought on us this time?
by Trogluddite on Apr 9, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My bet...
(Not to be pessimistic or anything)
An 18th inning error by Luis Rivas gives the Cubs an extra out, and Zambrano takes Meek deep. Yep. Zambrano.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course...
I won't be around for that, because dinner is coming up, and homework is calling as well.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bay!
Thanks dude.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on Apr 9, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Extra innings again
over and under on the innings
I'd say 11!
by Bad Andy on Apr 9, 2008 9:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Off topic...
Dan Johnson DFA'd by the A's.
He worth a look?
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
1st baseman
I think.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I highly doubt it.
:)
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
didn't we just get Craiggers?
I'd consider signing him but he'll probably head to San Fran
by Bad Andy on Apr 9, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
try saying matt capps K's real fast 5 times
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by thegetupkids on Apr 9, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
woah we threw out a runner???????????
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by thegetupkids on Apr 9, 2008 9:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I know.
Shocking!
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even more shocking
is that it didn't become an error...
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A caught-stealing!
Now it's up to
Bautista
pitcher
Rivas
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 9:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wait, it's a slow Japanese outfielder
Does that count?
by Trogluddite on Apr 9, 2008 9:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
When you're the Pirates
you take whatever you can get.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fukudome is very quick
Ichiro with power.......surprised Doumit got him
by Bad Andy on Apr 9, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if i were bautista
id end it here...and not leave it up to my incompetent teammates
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by thegetupkids on Apr 9, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He hasn't shown much power lately, though
by Trogluddite on Apr 9, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He can get a triple
and then steal home.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Bautista gets on at least
McLouth can hit another double with 2 outs.
by Bad Andy on Apr 9, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No go...
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't do that
otherwise you'd never get to Meek.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mientkiewicz up!
Come on, Doug!
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 9:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dagnabit
MLB had Capps batting. I thought I was brilliant.
by Trogluddite on Apr 9, 2008 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to throw a wet blanket on the party, but...
think about who comes in to pitch if we don't score
by Trogluddite on Apr 9, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yates?
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh man, Mientkiewicz is so slow.
The Pirates' base coaches need to be replaced.
by Charlie on Apr 9, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gah!
What is with this team getting out trying to get to 2nd on singles???
It's like the 4th time this season!
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's up to...
Rivas.
Scary.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And
he sucks.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mean
And
he's out.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My imagination
Or is every OF capable of throwing a bullet to 2nd against only us. I've never seen such accuracy so consistently.
by azibuck on Apr 9, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Let's see the bullpen options
Yates, Dumatrait, and Meek
Who will it be?
by Bad Andy on Apr 9, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Has to be Yates
he's a ton better than the other 2.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And
I win.
Yates it is.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yates is cranking
1st three pitches were all over 93 mph
by Trogluddite on Apr 9, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he had just stopped
McLouth would've had a chance.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So that means we won't see Meek
til the 16th OR would Maholm pitch?
by Bad Andy on Apr 9, 2008 9:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Remember White Flag's one shining moment in 2007?
He pitched like 5 innings of one-run ball and we won in 18? Think Meek has that in him tonight?
by azibuck on Apr 9, 2008 9:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Impossible.
If the Pirates give up 1 run, they're done.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't have Marmol or Wood to worry about?
but their is Lieber and Wuertz so who knows
by Bad Andy on Apr 9, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MLB replay on Menky single
It was a shot down the left field line and hit the short railing, so Soriano got to it pretty quick. Beat Menky handily w/the throw.
by Trogluddite on Apr 9, 2008 9:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow!
Rivas made another clean play! Holy Crap!
by Bad Andy on Apr 9, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Trade him
or shoot him, I'm good either way
by Trogluddite on Apr 9, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was wrong about Z
He bat in the 11th, not the 18th.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gotta score in this inning
You got Lee, ARAM, and Fukedome in the 12th
by Bad Andy on Apr 9, 2008 9:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Send in Meeks and they won't get a hit.
I guarantee it.
by Trogluddite on Apr 9, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hurry up an win already guys
Dave Bush and our pen are blowing it for us.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on Apr 9, 2008 10:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
5 out of 8 games
will have been decided in the 9th or later.
Is this a good sign or a bad sign?
by 19maz60 on Apr 9, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well this year's group of Bucs
have a lot of fight in them so for now that's a good sign
by Bad Andy on Apr 9, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, wait...we're the Pirates
we don't have runners in situations like this
by Trogluddite on Apr 9, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
GD it LaRoche!
2 FOR FLIPPIN 27
Just send him down to Indy already!
by Bad Andy on Apr 9, 2008 10:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
how about
0-April
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by fugimaster24 on Apr 9, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
0 for the last 25!
Seriously WTF here?
by Bad Andy on Apr 9, 2008 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is this why we signed Craig Wilson?
to replace LaMiss?
by Trogluddite on Apr 9, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe to create a super awesome
Craiggers/Mienkietwicz platoon at 1st
by Bad Andy on Apr 9, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My father is a Braves fan
Said LaRoche was as clutch as ARod but with only 1/100th of the talent.
I hate it when Dad is right.
by 19maz60 on Apr 9, 2008 10:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why?
Heres a thought. Just start him in AAA every April and bring him up May 1.
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by fugimaster24 on Apr 9, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
4 words you don't want to hear
bouncing ball to short
by Trogluddite on Apr 9, 2008 10:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Who?
Who is the last guy that we've had who could consistantly get to 97? Why did the Braves give up on him?
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by fugimaster24 on Apr 9, 2008 10:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yates had an ERA over 5 last year and ERA over 10 in the spring and was out of options
by 19maz60 on Apr 9, 2008 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please hurry
Dunn just homered. 7-3 Reds.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on Apr 9, 2008 10:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Now I have to get yet another beer
for luck. Don't fear - I will, if necessary, get a beer each inning the Pirates come up. My support for them is unlimited, although I only have enough beer to last a few more innings.
by Trogluddite on Apr 9, 2008 10:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sweet
We've played more innings than anyone in baseball.
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by fugimaster24 on Apr 9, 2008 10:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You'll always have the memories.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on Apr 9, 2008 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Phil Doumatrait in, leaving....
...only Evan Meek in the bullpen
by Trogluddite on Apr 9, 2008 10:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And Dumatrait walks the first batter. Lovely.
by Charlie on Apr 9, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
?
I know he pitched 3 innings earlier, but do you think Burnett can make it to Pittsburgh in time for the 14th inning?
by bryanzane on Apr 9, 2008 10:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hate that my reward for watching 3.5 hours of baseball is having to watch Phil Dumatrait battle Henry Blanco.
by Charlie on Apr 9, 2008 10:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lol
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're reward will come in the bottom of the 13th
by 19maz60 on Apr 9, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
His reward
will be getting to watch Gomez & Rivas battle some pitcher from deep in the Cubs pen?
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
when he gets...
to see Gomez and Rivas battle whoever is left in Chicago's 'pen?
by bryanzane on Apr 9, 2008 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is Meek
the last guy left in the 'pen?
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Who's due up?
I've turned off MLB gameday and am listening to the game. Almost done w/my Blue Moon summer wheat. Should I get another one for luck, or is it hopeless?
by Trogluddite on Apr 9, 2008 10:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gomez, Bautista & McLouth.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if not for luck
because it's DELICIOUS!
by bryanzane on Apr 9, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kevin Hart...
never heard of him before.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 10:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gomez
1 pitch, 1 out.
Brilliant.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 10:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There are some people chanting "M! V! P!" as Rivas comes to bat. That is hilarious.
by Charlie on Apr 9, 2008 10:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That's awesome.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cubs announcers thought Snell was hitting for Rivas
maybe not a bad idea
by 19maz60 on Apr 9, 2008 10:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Come on
Nate!
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 10:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We need you here.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
On to the 14th..
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 10:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Let him bat.
Please, let him bat. If nothing else, the Cubs are due to get lucky and it won't do Meeks any good if they get lucky against him.
by Trogluddite on Apr 9, 2008 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't it 6th?
Sanchez, Black Hole, Nady, Doumit, Dumatrait?
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or did
Freddy already bat?
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have to win it in the 14th
or get Paulino up in the pen
by 19maz60 on Apr 9, 2008 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Da** it.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 10:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cubs take the lead
DAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Bad Andy on Apr 9, 2008 10:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Now we need
at least 2 runs to make it to the 15th.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 10:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well...
they got lucky.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 10:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Now the Buccos
need to get really lucky.
Especially with the Black Hole due up 2nd & 3rd in the inning.
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by UtesFan89 on Apr 9, 2008 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So much
for that...
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