Milwaukee Brewers @ Pittsburgh Pirates GameThread, May 20, 2008 7:05 PM EDT

Brewers vs. Pirates, 20 May 2008

by Charlie on May 20, 2008 4:27 PM EDT Comment 107 comments

Milwaukee Brewers @ Pittsburgh Pirates

Manny Parra and Paul Maholm, 7:05 PM.

For something to do while you wait for this one to start, you can check out my answers to Jeff Sackmann's questions about the Pirates over at Brew Crew Ball.

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At the Hardball Times declares Aramis Ramirez (2003) the worst cleanup hitter since 1957. There’s a good Dick Stuart story in the same article.

by bucdaddy on May 20, 2008 4:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

we at least played well

against one of the better teams in the NL. Here’s hopping we can get a series win against the scuffling Brewers.

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on May 20, 2008 5:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

STAT OF THE NIGHT

Paul Maholm in 4 starts at PNC

2-0 2.05 ERA .198 Opp BA

by Bad Andy on May 20, 2008 6:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Well so much for that

Maholm’s getting hit around like a human pinana!

by Bad Andy on May 20, 2008 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

alright Maholm

2 hits and the Prince DP….not bad

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by Raise the Jolly Roger on May 20, 2008 7:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

UGH!

Bautista batting 2nd…...hurry back Jack Flash

by Bad Andy on May 20, 2008 7:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

This isn’t good.

by Charlie on May 20, 2008 7:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

hahahaha

Sanchez after catching Bautista’s ball thought the inning ended which in turn caused the Brew Crew to score a run.

by Bad Andy on May 20, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Oh man.

by Charlie on May 20, 2008 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I bet the Pirates can’t wait to send Bixler back to the minors.

by Charlie on May 20, 2008 7:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

or DFA Rivas

still I think Bix should be sent down

by Bad Andy on May 20, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’d love to be rid of both of them, myself.

by Charlie on May 20, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I mean, I’m glad he just singled and all. :)

by Charlie on May 20, 2008 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

still batting a fine .182 though

with 6 errors…...not getting it done…..knew from the beg. he wasn’t ready and it shows

by Bad Andy on May 20, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nice one Maholm

AAAAARRRRGGGHHH

by Bad Andy on May 20, 2008 7:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

LaRoche

You’re freaking worthless!

by Bad Andy on May 20, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Let’s go Black Hole.

by Charlie on May 20, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Ugh.

by Charlie on May 20, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bright spot. Parra with 90 pitches through 4 innings...

Bring on Gagne!!!

by Hitman Easler on May 20, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Two men on for Braun.

by Charlie on May 20, 2008 8:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Maholm is pitching like crap tonight

Thank goodness for the early DPs

by Bad Andy on May 20, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Have I missed much?

I see us down 2-0.
Is the offense playing in a way that they could make it up?
Or is it game, set & match?

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by UtesFan89 on May 20, 2008 8:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Just a Freddy brainfart that gave them the first run.

by Hitman Easler on May 20, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

As long as the Brew Crew bullpen stinks

we still have a chance. Got 4 innings to do it.

by Bad Andy on May 20, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Man, this lineup is stinky.

by Hitman Easler on May 20, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

There's a start

Freddy with two-bagger

by Bad Andy on May 20, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

WHY WHY WHY WHY

is Bautista batting 2nd? WHY!

by Bad Andy on May 20, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

It makes no friggin sense. He is a K machine.

by Hitman Easler on May 20, 2008 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, I mean what is it about the second position in the lineup that so often makes managers think you can’t put good hitters there?

by Charlie on May 20, 2008 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

See a good 2nd batter would've moved Freddy to 3rd

Then score on that WP there

by Bad Andy on May 20, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bautista blows.

by Hitman Easler on May 20, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

we're making parra work

but can’t quite seem to get any big hits. hopefully we start this inning

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by Raise the Jolly Roger on May 20, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

WTH Nate.

by Hitman Easler on May 20, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

dangit Nate!

we’re in business if the 2 and 3 hitters both dont K!!!

parra out

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by Raise the Jolly Roger on May 20, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

McLouth swinging at Ball Four

We just don’t deserve to win tonight

by Bad Andy on May 20, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

That's alright

hopefully we will see a another 1-4 night with a late-inning homerun from Nate…seems like that happens a lot (it probably happened once or twice and I just remember it well)

by DITO on May 20, 2008 9:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

What is Bay's average with RISP?

by Hitman Easler on May 20, 2008 9:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

before tonight

it was .188 (6-32)...although he did have 11 walks.

by Thunder on May 20, 2008 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

JMO, but he needs to move up in the lineup.

by Hitman Easler on May 20, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree

he’s hitting .290 with no one on and .210 with runners on. With 2 outs in an inning, he’s hitting a whopping .158. But he does take a lot of walks.

by Thunder on May 20, 2008 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I bet

we lose by that one run that Freddy let score. I’ve been watching the Phillies game, too… 0-0 in the top of the 8th… Hamels is fun to watch.

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on May 20, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Another case of a starting P staying too long

Maholm gives up homer to Cameron!

We’re done! Home crowd not into this one.

by Bad Andy on May 20, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Da**.

Down 4-0 now.

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by UtesFan89 on May 20, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Once again,

we leave our pitcher in one inning too long.

Argh.

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on May 20, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

johnnycuff posted something

in the Coming Up post about how the cameron signing was a huge mistake.
Well… he’s 3-3 with a BB & a HR (2 RBI, 1 run scored) so far today.

It’s like Soriano in the last series with the Cubs… except he’s not as good.

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by UtesFan89 on May 20, 2008 9:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Cameron. Geeze.

by Hitman Easler on May 20, 2008 9:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Burnett in.

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by UtesFan89 on May 20, 2008 9:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Nice timing JR.

by Hitman Easler on May 20, 2008 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Pirates just don't look interested tonight

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by Raise the Jolly Roger on May 20, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

And we were just 1 game away

from being 1 game away from .500 again.

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by UtesFan89 on May 20, 2008 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

that's a HUGE understatment

by Bad Andy on May 20, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It is?

We’ve been getting to that point repeatedly, and then losing.
Maybe they’ll do it differently this time… fall 3 below .500, and then win 2 straight to get back within a game of .500.

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by UtesFan89 on May 20, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Burnett looks like he's got something to prove...

which is good…because he does.

by DITO on May 20, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

he had a nice inning. Threw some good pitches in there.

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on May 20, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

this is a miserable game to watch

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by Raise the Jolly Roger on May 20, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Hey Pirates...

The offense called, you accidentally left it in the airport in St. Louis…

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on May 20, 2008 9:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

hahahaha

NICE! :O

by Bad Andy on May 20, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

How many damn black holes can one team have?

LaRoche? Bautista? Paulino? Bixler? How have we won 21 games?

by Hitman Easler on May 20, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Why does Corey Hart

have absolutely NO power this year?

by DITO on May 20, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

You’re right that he hasn’t been hitting for much power, but he did hit the top of the light standard on top of the green monster in Fenway

by ol Pete on May 20, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

And there he goes with an opposite field jack

by DITO on May 20, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah. Nice work. :)

by Charlie on May 20, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

this game is garbage. Ugh.

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on May 20, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I think I am going to fall asleep while watching this

by DITO on May 20, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

U. G. L. Y.

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by UtesFan89 on May 20, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Hopefully Snell and Gorzo wake up...

or this series could get ugly.

by Hitman Easler on May 20, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

6 runs in 2 innings to tie.

7 runs in 2 innings to win.

Totally doable…

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by UtesFan89 on May 20, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Now...

6 runs in 1 inning to tie.
7 runs in 1 inning to win.

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by UtesFan89 on May 20, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I've seen the future, and this is what I saw...

Bixler-1st pitch pop-up out
Minky pinch hitting-single
Sanchez hit into double-play

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on May 20, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Even better, Rivas pinch hitting… wtf

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on May 20, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Got it wrong...

2 K’s and a pinch-hit ground out

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by UtesFan89 on May 20, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

you were too optimistic

fred and bix K’s and a quick out from rivas

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by Raise the Jolly Roger on May 20, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Jeez

They’re not even trying tonight, I swear. This is disgusting.

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on May 20, 2008 9:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

i agree

most boring/depressing game of the year

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by Raise the Jolly Roger on May 20, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Good god...

the wind just picked up here.
As in… picked up our glass table and flung it a good 10 feet.

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by UtesFan89 on May 20, 2008 9:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

WE'RE GOING TO WIN THE GAME

GAGNE WARMING UP

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by Raise the Jolly Roger on May 20, 2008 9:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Haha. Never say never.

by Hitman Easler on May 20, 2008 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Gagne’s wearing… jodhpurs?

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on May 20, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Haha

welp.

6 runs, was an obstacle, but OH MY JEEZ WITH 7 RUNS WE MIGHT NEVER CATCH UP NOW!!!

This game sucked.

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on May 20, 2008 9:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Hart

shows some power.
7-0.

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by UtesFan89 on May 20, 2008 9:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

VICTORY!!

gagne in!

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by Raise the Jolly Roger on May 20, 2008 9:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Leadoff man on

Don’t call it a comeback

by DITO on May 20, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

told ya

5 more now

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by Raise the Jolly Roger on May 20, 2008 10:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Jay Bay

gets us on the board!

by DITO on May 20, 2008 10:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Jason-ity!

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by UtesFan89 on May 20, 2008 10:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Whoopdedoo.... no shutout.

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on May 20, 2008 10:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Another

clutch homer by Jason Bay.

by Thunder on May 20, 2008 10:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

That figures.

by Hitman Easler on May 20, 2008 10:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

It is entirely possible that I don't have a clue what I am talking about,

but it looks to me like Gagne’s hand pauses next to his ear and kind of shows what type of pitch he might be throwing. I don’t think he hides the ball very well at all, and I am sure that hitter can pick it up very early, if not tell when he is going to throw a breaking ball before he even releases it.

by DITO on May 20, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs