Cubs vs. Pirates, 23 May 2008
Chicago Cubs at Pittsburgh Pirates, May 23, 2008 7:05 PM EDT
Carlos Zambrano vs. Zach Duke, 7:05 PM. Here's the box.
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So far this season...
The 2008 season is a little under two months old, but the Pirates and Cubs are already meeting for the 10th time in 48 games on Friday. The Cubs are enjoying the close encounter the most, dominating the series between the two teams with an 8-1 record and a 69-38 advantage in runs scored.
From the MLB preview.
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by UtesFan89 on May 23, 2008 5:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Also, for fun...
if you click on the MLB preview link above and scroll down, you see the following information in table form…
The Cubs only have 2 hitters hitting below .200 against Duke in his career, and they are Jim Edmonda (0-8) & Kosuke Fukudome (1-6 on the season/in his career). Henry Blanco is at .200 exactly (1-5). Mark DeRosa is at .267 in 15 at-bats. No one else is below .300 against Duke. Fontenot & Hoffpauir have never faced Duke.
On the other hand, against Zambrano, Chavez is 0-3 in his career. Bautista is hitting .077 in 13 ABs. one-pitch out is hitting .500, but that’s in 2 ABs. Eye Chart is 1-1 in his career. Oh, and Ronny Paulino? 16 ABs, and a .063 average. Sanchez is just above .200 (.207) in 29 at-bats. Rivas, Michaels & CGz have never faced Z.
Just FYI (and because I’m bored).
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by UtesFan89 on May 23, 2008 5:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
For the Cubbies
LF Soriano
SS Theriot
1 Lee
3 A-Ram
C Soto
2 Cedeno
RF DeRosa
CF Johnson
P Zambrano
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by UtesFan89 on May 23, 2008 5:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
For the Buccos
2 Sanchez
CF Nate
LF Jason-ity
1 Black Hole
RF X-Man
3 Eye Chart
C Paulino
SS CGz
P Duke
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by UtesFan89 on May 23, 2008 5:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nice to see Gomez
get some regular action
by Bad Andy on May 23, 2008 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
I’ll suffer the occasional defensive lapse if it means the .170 hitting one-pitch out sits.
by Hitman Easler on May 23, 2008 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll keep beating the drum...
Freddy is not a lead-off hitter JR!
by Hitman Easler on May 23, 2008 6:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Who is?
I’d say McLouth outgrew his leadoff spot. Third is where he belongs.
by Bad Andy on May 23, 2008 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But he isn't hitting 3rd
and we don’t have a #2 hitter either.
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by UtesFan89 on May 23, 2008 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it were me I'd try Bay or move Nate back...
Freddy never walks, his OBP sucks and if he isn’t hitting over .300 it makes no sense to lead him off.
by Hitman Easler on May 23, 2008 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we just
shoot Soriano in the face?
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on May 23, 2008 7:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Instead Derrek Lee hits a ball that bounces off Nady’s face.
by Charlie on May 23, 2008 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Already down 1.
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by UtesFan89 on May 23, 2008 7:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Looking ugly.
And we’re only in the top of the 1st.
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by UtesFan89 on May 23, 2008 7:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's gonna be a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooong night
predicting the final to be 11-2
by Bad Andy on May 23, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
With Burnett and Salas
pitching 2 innings each.
by Bad Andy on May 23, 2008 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The 11
is from the Buccos, right?
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by UtesFan89 on May 23, 2008 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We need a 3rd baseman.
Lets go sign a vet that can actually play 3rd base.
No need to put off on it… not like Eye Chart is the 3rd baseman of the future or anything.
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by UtesFan89 on May 23, 2008 7:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice
only gave up 2 runs in the first.
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by UtesFan89 on May 23, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Black Hole
Infield ground out.
Shocking…
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by UtesFan89 on May 23, 2008 7:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Following up on my Paulino comment yesterday
instead of LaRoche batting, just let him select a fielder and go ahead and throw it to him. What’s the difference?
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on May 23, 2008 7:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I can't believe
that I left my favorite bar early to watch this crapola.
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on May 23, 2008 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's never too late
to go back. Numbs the pain at least.
by Bad Andy on May 23, 2008 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But I’m already drunk…
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on May 23, 2008 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Our starters....
give up more hits than ….well….i don’t know….
by Hitman Easler on May 23, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Seriously.
We’re the worst freaking baseball team ever. I hate this.
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on May 23, 2008 7:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
God.
11 seems like a pessimistic bet for how many runs they’ll score.
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by UtesFan89 on May 23, 2008 7:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't understand this
they claim we “drill fundamentals” all the time in practice, but we look like my younger brother’s t-ball team sometimes. I wish they would just admit that we don’t have very much inherent talent.
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on May 23, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess my question is
how can you suck so freaking hard, yet be a “professional” team?
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on May 23, 2008 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What happened with the
Theriot at bat?
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by UtesFan89 on May 23, 2008 7:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ah, okay.
I hate how it slows down at times.
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by UtesFan89 on May 23, 2008 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gameday...
Theriot reaches on a force attempt, missed catch error by Unknown (0), assist to pitcher Zach Duke.
WTF?
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by UtesFan89 on May 23, 2008 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Duke threw a slider to Gomez
and Gomez pulled a Paulino…letting it go off the end of his glove.
by Thunder on May 23, 2008 7:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Even Gomez
has the dreadful SS E-itis. At least he can rake off the bench.
by Bad Andy on May 23, 2008 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just seeing Paulino's name at this point
causes rage to swell in me.
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on May 23, 2008 7:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hell
at this point, let’s let Bob Walk pitch again…
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on May 23, 2008 7:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Man...
Bucs look like Slippery Rock vs. Ohio State when we play the stinking Cubs.
by Hitman Easler on May 23, 2008 7:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Guess its a good thing Gorzo isn't pitching this weekend
ERA of 17 versus the Cubs and less than 3 against anyone else. Simple…isn’t it…JR…just don’t throw Gorzo against the Cubs anymore.
by Thunder on May 23, 2008 7:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If we lose this game
I’m throwing out my favorite Pirates hat.
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on May 23, 2008 7:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Argh.
Okay… i’m outta here… enjoy the suck!
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on May 23, 2008 7:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well Duke pitched a scoreless inning
That’s a start :P
by Bad Andy on May 23, 2008 7:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Imagine
If they would spend as much money on pitching as they did Bobbleheads for our pathetic franchise. We would be awesome. Ugh.
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on May 23, 2008 7:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Freddy
with more shrapnel grounding out.
by Thunder on May 23, 2008 7:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh, hey Cubs,
welcome to PNC Park… enjoy your 3 automatic wins!
Seriously, I’m out. I can’t take this tonight. Somehow, being drunk has made it worse.
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on May 23, 2008 7:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Duke looks at 8 pitches in his at bat
Freddy and Nate 4 pitches…combined.
by Thunder on May 23, 2008 8:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
OMG A STRIKEOUT
CALL THE PRESIDENT!
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on May 23, 2008 8:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll say this..
it could be much, much worse.
by Hitman Easler on May 23, 2008 8:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How could it be much worse?
Other than having Matt Morris pitch, and Rivas play SS.
by Thunder on May 23, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lincoln starts at Hickory tonight...
3 solid innings so far.
by Hitman Easler on May 23, 2008 8:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh Russell
Just go ahead and roll over and play dead like you’ve done all season…
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on May 23, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Suck it Pinella, it's 5-0.
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on May 23, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Black Hole.
Stop sucking.
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by UtesFan89 on May 23, 2008 8:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
X-Man Ks too.
Dang.
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by UtesFan89 on May 23, 2008 8:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wasted lead-off triple.
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by UtesFan89 on May 23, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
Duke’s out already.
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on May 23, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the fans can't even get it right
guy is wearing a pirates jacket. He wants a $10 baseball so bad that he interferes with a ball in play. Basically, one of 2 things was going to happen…it was going out for a home run…or it hits the padding at the top of the wall…bounces back over Johnson’s head and Bay gets an inside the parker.
by Thunder on May 23, 2008 8:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Burnett in
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by UtesFan89 on May 23, 2008 8:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
THROW STRIKES GET AN OUT UGHHHHH!!!!!! ALSJF;LAJFLA;
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on May 23, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’d be fired if I did my job like this.
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on May 23, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe I am thinking too much...
but why not bring in Salas with the Cubs lineup stacked with righties?
by Hitman Easler on May 23, 2008 8:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You've got to be kidding me.
I’m canceling my mlb.tv account.
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on May 23, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lol
Carlos Zambrano is 3-3 with a RBI and a run scored.
Every Cub except Soto has a hit.
The only Buc with a hit is Bay.
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by UtesFan89 on May 23, 2008 8:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If Russell is ever going to flip a buffet table
it needs to be tonight.
by Thunder on May 23, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
too bad
the pg just ran an article today about how calm JR is…
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on May 23, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And look
how much good it’s doing. they are still doing too many stupid things. A physical error is one thing…but they are making too many mental errors on top of them. He needs to get mad once in a while.
by Thunder on May 23, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I agree...
but then again, I believe in the Therrien school of coaching…
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on May 23, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you suck burnett.
you suck pirates.
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on May 23, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Someone not
named Jason-ity gets a hit!
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by UtesFan89 on May 23, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why the hell
didn’t Burnett at least bunt to get the runner over?
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on May 23, 2008 8:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nate
with a 2 RBI triple!
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by UtesFan89 on May 23, 2008 8:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Go Nate...too little, too late.
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on May 23, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyone want to buy an infield??
Ours…preferably. Bring up the Indy infield…they can’t do any worse…can they? If one or two of our outfielders gets hurt…we’re looking at the 1899 Cleveland Spiders.
by Thunder on May 23, 2008 8:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
To me
bringing in Burnett and letting him continue to suck is an indication that we’re waving the white flag. I hate that.
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on May 23, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It'd seem that way
no matter who you brought in.
The Cubs are in the heads of the Pirates players. All of them.
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by UtesFan89 on May 23, 2008 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh cool
what creative way will we strand LaRoche on 2nd in this inning?
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on May 23, 2008 9:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pop out, ground out, fly out.
That simple.
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by UtesFan89 on May 23, 2008 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ronnie
with more warning track power. Obviously, spinach or wheaties are not in his diet.
by Thunder on May 23, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I think he snacks on huge plates of crappy baseball skills.
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on May 23, 2008 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Imagine that
a scoreless inning for the cubs.
by Thunder on May 23, 2008 9:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Now
we try to get the Cubs to go 1-2-3 in an inning today.
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by UtesFan89 on May 23, 2008 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Without
requiring a double-play.
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by UtesFan89 on May 23, 2008 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not watching any more Cubs/Pirates games the rest of the season. It’s a waste of time. I”m going to donate that time to literacy or some other sort of community service.
Or, I’m just going to drink heavily.
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on May 23, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And Russell runs up the white flag
by PH’ing Joey Bats for the pitcher and 0 for 3vas for Freddy.
Then again…right now the only difference between Freddy and Rivas…is Freddy catches the ball once in a while.
by Thunder on May 23, 2008 9:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Even Greg and Walkie are conceding the game
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on May 23, 2008 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So now our bench is Bixler and Chavez
may as well let Chavez catch the 9th.
by Thunder on May 23, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They need to have a mercy rule
whenever the Pirates are playing
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by UtesFan89 on May 23, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Can we even consider this rock-bottom? I have a terrible feeling it’s going to get much, much worse before the end of the season.
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on May 23, 2008 9:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Worse
record-wise or performance-wise?
They’ll probably be much worse than 4-games-under-.500 soon.
As for performance-wise… can it really get much worse?
No one cares. The starter gets rocked, the infield is crap, the catcher is out.
Well, I guess if Jason-ity & X-Man (& Wilson?) are dealt, it’ll get a lot worse.
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by UtesFan89 on May 23, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can understand that we don’t have the talent level to compete in the Majors at this point, but I mean worse in the whole “screw this, we’re cashing our paychecks” way…
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on May 23, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
After we trade away
all the players that have played a bit this season, yes, it’ll get worse.
Much worse.
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by UtesFan89 on May 23, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s just no sense of urgency or pride, except from McClouth…or so it seems…
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on May 23, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nady & Jason-ity
at times at least.
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by UtesFan89 on May 23, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
all of the starters have regressed from last year.
And the bullpen has been alright at best.
The infield is crap, the bench is crap.
X-Man. McLouth. Jason-ity. Doumit. That’s about it.
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by UtesFan89 on May 23, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ronnie
hiding his face with his glove after almost dropping the foul pop.
by Thunder on May 23, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ronnie has no skills
Not even crappy ones.
by bucdaddy on May 23, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
10 runs in 2 innings
that’s 5 runs an inning to tie it up.
doable, no?
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by UtesFan89 on May 23, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We scored again!
Deficit back under 10!
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by UtesFan89 on May 23, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Walk just summed this up best.
“This was a team failure.”
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on May 23, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dude,
What have you been drinking? I’m proud of you ;-)
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST
by cocktailsfor2 on May 23, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had 6 pints of various different beers before the game (got out of work early)... 2 Rogue Pilsners, 2 Smoked Lagers, and 2 Brooklyn Dupple Boks. It was fun :D
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on May 23, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
atta boy
just got home from work myself – was listening to alla this shiite on WGN radio. I am already on my 2nd cocktail. Gah.
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST
by cocktailsfor2 on May 23, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...
This game has sobered me up a lot, though, so I am contemplating going back out again. Luckily, my neighborhood bar is just 2 blocks away, so I can walk it.
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on May 23, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gamecast
is thankfully frozen, and I switched the teevee over to the Laker game a while back, so more cocktails it is for me. Unfortunately, I’ve got to work tomorrow.
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST
by cocktailsfor2 on May 23, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I don’t think I have the will now to head back out. I’ll probably just finish watching the Phillies game here.
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on May 23, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I tried to drown my sorrows
...but they learned to swim.
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST
by cocktailsfor2 on May 23, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to sit around and watch the monster comeback in the 9th inning
but I need food.
Maybe I’ll get back in time for the end of the comeback.
:)
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by UtesFan89 on May 23, 2008 9:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ugh
Thank Jeebus this massacre is over.
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on May 23, 2008 9:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I tried...
optimism sucks though.
And it just makes me feel more depressed.
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by UtesFan89 on May 23, 2008 10:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ridgerunner Rum
or maybe Yuengling, if I don’t feel like getting hammered. Or maybe I’ll head to 1-2-3 …
What? The Pirates played the Cubs? How’d they do?
by bucdaddy on May 23, 2008 10:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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