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Pirates May Keep Damaso Marte

The Post-Gazette:

Management began entertaining offers for him in the offseason, and that never stopped. But those offers continue to come in lower than expected, so a Plan B has been formulated: The Pirates might offer salary arbitration to Marte after this season, assuring that, even if someone else signs him out of free agency, they would receive two quality draft picks as compensation.

As Plan B's go, that's a pretty good one. We Pirates fans aren't used to this strategy because Dave Littlefield never used it, but it's a great way to build up the farm system, especially when you're doing it with players like Marte. The rules for determining which compensation picks free agents get require relievers to be compared to other relievers only, so a good one like Marte can potentially bring back a first round pick even though Marte isn't as valuable as an everyday player. The Pirates could potentially get a far better return by holding onto Marte. And if they're bluffing, this is a very good bluff to use and could potentially drive up Marte's price on the trading market.

In other news, the link isn't working as I type this, but the Post-Gazette Pirates front page suggests that reliever T.J. Beam will be called up from Indianapolis. I'm happy to see this--Beam has been very good at Indy, and he has a long history of performing well at Class AAA. He only pitched in one year in the majors, but that was because he was with the Yankees, who weren't exactly known for their patience with minor leaguers. He's supposed to have pretty good stuff, and while he's no guarantee, he's a better bet than guys like Marino Salas and Bryan Bullington to become a useful reliever.

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X-Man or Doumit to the DL, or Burnett being removed from the 40-man.
-No decision is expected on X-Man till next week, and Doumit probably won’t head to the DL. (They only list after that that neither move would affect the 40-man.)
-If Burnett is dropped from the 40-man, he can elect to become a free agent.

Hey… it’s better than recalling Salas, no?

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 22, 2008 1:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

John Perroto reporting

Dumatrait going to the DL with an unspecified injury. They would still have to ax someone from the 40 man.

http://www.timesonline.com/articles/2008/06/22/sports/pirates/doc485de083cd7e8619626423.txt

by Thunder on Jun 22, 2008 1:39 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jimmy Barthmeier deservs to be called up

2-1 2.84 ERA in 6 starts with Indy. He started tonight so that’s gives him an opportunity to have him start on Thursday. You have Zach Duke moving up a day to Wednesday.

Hope that happens.

by Bad Andy on Jun 22, 2008 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eh

Looks kind of like a small, fluky data set. He’s got a history of control problems, and I’m a little suspicious of the fact that he’s all of a sudden cut his BB/9 from 4.50 to a little under 2.

by matskralc on Jun 22, 2008 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I exaggerate

Looks like his struggles didn’t really start until he hit AA. I do like that he seems to keep the ball down and not give up the HR. His really only bad year was 2007, and it was bad enough that the Astros completely gave up on him. Wish I knew a little more about him than what the stats say…

by matskralc on Jun 22, 2008 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Barthmaeier

Sickels liked him a lot in In his ‘06 book, ranking him 30th among pitching prospects heading into his age 22 season. He said things like “when a team drafts high school pitchers, this is how they want them to develop….Barthmaeier hasn’t received much attention yet, but he looks like a top prospect to me. I think he is a breakthrough candidtae for 2006, in the sense of his reputation catching up with his performance.

His 2006 in A+ wasn’t as good as Sickels expected: “He had a good year and solidified his credentials as a prospect, but he didn’t improve as much as I thought he might.” His curve and change were erratic. “He has to improve his command within the strike zone, Sickels said, but I remain optimistic about his long-term chances to be a fine pitcher.” He dropped him the # 47 best pitching prospect.

Then came his disastrous 2007 in AA (often thought of as the acid test for pitchers), so bad that Sickels dropped him from his ‘08 book and the Astros first moved him to the pen and then gave up on him.

Looks like an astute pickup by the Bucs. Back in an AA rotation this year, he was OK for 10 starts, but has really blossomed at AAA since then. It’s always a good sign when a pitcher does better as he moves up the ladder.

He’s big and athletic, a high school quarterback, with a quality fast ball. It all depends on the command and consistency of his curve and change. I think they did the right thing in not bringing him up now, despite their need for a starter. He needs to stay in AAA for a while.

by rogero on Jun 22, 2008 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, it would be nice to see the Pirates

get a couple compensatory picks-if that`s how it works out-for Marte. Like Charlie pointed out a few times before, it`s important to remember cases like DL not only giving up Hernandez and Perez for Nady, for example, but also the fact that the Mets later got the two extra draft choices for Hernandez after he moved on.

And if they’re bluffing, this is a very good bluff to use and could potentially drive up Marte’s price on the trading market.

More intelligent thinking from management. You`re right, Charlie. “We Pirates fans aren`t used to this strategy.”

Beam`s numbers look really good. Let`s hope he can give some quality relief the rest of the season.

I have a bad feeling about Dumatrait`s shoulder injury. This is something we Pirates` fans are used to.

Kevin Thompson would make the most sense to ax from the 40-man roster, but would his injury status at Indy prevent it?

by patthatt on Jun 22, 2008 4:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Feeling generous this morning?

Smizik and Cook hung you a couple of fat curveballs right down Broadway, and you didn’t even bite….

by KPatrick on Jun 22, 2008 11:35 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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