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Rays vs. Pirates, 28 June 2008

Tampa Bay Rays @ Pittsburgh Pirates


Edwin Jackson vs. Ty Taubenheim, 7:05 PM.

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Game notes for Indy

confirm JVB and Beam returning to Pittsburgh. One for supposedly for D. Bautista, the other supposedly for Osoria. I haven’t seen any OFFICIAL statements reporting either player to the DL YET.

PG WAS carrying a link on their front page that said Osoria to DL and Morgan to AAA, but that link has been removed in the last few minutes. If both of those moves were made, that would leave 25 man roster at 24. I guess we will see in an hour or so what actually happened.

by Thunder on Jun 28, 2008 5:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Looks like

this game may not start on time… it looks like Hell opened up a portal over Pittsburgh tonight.

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jun 28, 2008 7:02 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It won't start on time

but I don’t see it getting rained out, based on the radar I’ve been looking at.

by Thunder on Jun 28, 2008 7:08 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

PG now has proper moves

JVB, Taubenheim and Beam up, Osoria to DL, Morgan and Barthmaier to Indy. D. Bautista may be available by Monday.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08180/893434-100.stm

by Thunder on Jun 28, 2008 7:10 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gah. It changed.

I already had a post up (based on a PG report) that Bautista was going to the DL. Now I have to go edit. :(

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jun 28, 2008 7:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And JVB

is the likely starter for the available start on Wednesday.

by Thunder on Jun 28, 2008 7:10 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Come on

I have to go soon.
Get the game underway already.

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jun 28, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If we don't want to see our starters get shelled,

we might as well forfeit all the remaining games and get a head start on free agency.

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jun 28, 2008 7:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Honestly wouldn't be a bad idea

Duke, Maholm, and even Dumatrait will get better with experience.

I truly belive Nutting, Coonelly, and Neal should take a gamble on a high-priced ace.

If the Bucs can blow $10 million on a washed-up pitcher (thanks DL) then they can take a chance on AJ Burnett, Ben Sheets, or John Lackey.

This team needs a true ACE

by Bad Andy on Jun 28, 2008 7:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

right off the bat

base hit off TY T 1st pitch

by Bad Andy on Jun 28, 2008 7:48 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

2nd pitch

another base hit

1st and 3rd nobody out

by Bad Andy on Jun 28, 2008 7:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Biggest surprise this year offense and bench

If the starting pitching would have come through this year, who knows with the offense and bench hitting the way they are, especially with nothing from Sanchez and LaRouche. Unfortunately, it doesn’t look like the minors have any pitching to help the starting chaos out.

by long4willie on Jun 28, 2008 7:49 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Strikes out Hinkse and Pena

To prevent further damage

Well Done!

by Bad Andy on Jun 28, 2008 7:56 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bad start

good finish to first inning.

by Thunder on Jun 28, 2008 7:56 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what the eff?

I thought it was still rain delay?!?

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 28, 2008 7:59 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

gah.

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 28, 2008 8:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jackson

12 pitches, 9 strikes, and an era @ 4.3.

What do the Rays want for us to pick up this ace?

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 28, 2008 8:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Xavier Nady

Jackson’s a converted outfielder. He could probably pick up some offense too.

Do not think that what is hard for you to master is humanly impossible; but if a thing is humanly possible, consider it to be within your reach.

by Orlando Rays on Jun 28, 2008 8:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Xman!

Nice to have you back :D

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jun 28, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

TRY

to not eff this up, Black Hole

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 28, 2008 8:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Worked

but man, he really has the worst luck of any player in the history of the game :/

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jun 28, 2008 8:13 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

need...more...

Schlitz.

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 28, 2008 8:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

schlitz in fridge

the re-formulated stuff. takes me back

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 28, 2008 8:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oh

waaaaaay before my college days

by Bad Andy on Jun 28, 2008 8:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

attaboy

I just got home from work, but I’ll try to catch ya. ;-)

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 28, 2008 8:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Looks like Snell, Gorzo, and Duke...

taught Ty well. How to walk the opposing pitcher in less than 6 pitches.

by Hitman Easler on Jun 28, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WHY DO WE KEEP WALKING THE PITCHER

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 28, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hehe

Greg and Blass sound so shocked that we have a pitcher who isn’t (yet) getting shelled

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jun 28, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Who knew a guy that's strugging in AAA

Can get his you know what together after the first two batters…........although he DID walk a pitcher.

by Bad Andy on Jun 28, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gameday

shows Nate as having 1.000 fldg pct? Is this true?

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 28, 2008 8:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wow

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 28, 2008 8:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Damn.....

Looks better than anything we have seen lately. Caveat…miniscule sample size.

by Hitman Easler on Jun 28, 2008 8:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what unis

are they wearing? Hard to tell on gameday

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 28, 2008 8:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Crawfords and Jax. Redcats

are what the unis say

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jun 28, 2008 8:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow

I could have fielded that… Crawfords

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jun 28, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's gonna put a dent

on his chance to be an All-Star.

by Bad Andy on Jun 28, 2008 8:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Of course Dirty Sanchez...

is hitting .230 for the year. Yet JR keeps trotting his sorry ass out there in the two hole day after day.

by Hitman Easler on Jun 28, 2008 8:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Boo away!

Suck-chez is AWFUL!

by Bad Andy on Jun 28, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ugly, ugly, ugly...

He did make good contact, though…

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jun 28, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

why nibble

@ Pena?

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 28, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ohh, that's 5

straight balls – implosion time?

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 28, 2008 8:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

or wuzzat a pitchout?

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 28, 2008 8:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow!

Great play by McClouth

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jun 28, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

57 pitches

thru 4

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 28, 2008 8:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nady doubles again

Looks like his trade stock is going up again.

by Bad Andy on Jun 28, 2008 8:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

dude...

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 28, 2008 8:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nope

Black Hole in classic form

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jun 28, 2008 8:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh my god

it’s like they’ve never seen one before… they’ve talked about it now for 20 minutes

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jun 28, 2008 8:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Our announcers mentioned it too

But not for 20 minutes

Do not think that what is hard for you to master is humanly impossible; but if a thing is humanly possible, consider it to be within your reach.

by Orlando Rays on Jun 28, 2008 8:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LaRoche

really looks kinda dumb in the Crawfords uni… it just doesn’t work for him

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jun 28, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He'd look great in

ANY uni other than a Pirates’ one, IMO

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 28, 2008 8:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"Our" ace?

He has yet to pitch a game in a Pirates uniform.

Maybe that’s why he’s not been battered out of the game yet.

Hmmm … Craws unis for rest of year?

by bucdaddy on Jun 28, 2008 9:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

71 pitches

thru 5

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 28, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hmmmm

why pitch out with Jose on 3rd? He’s not exactly a speed demon…

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jun 28, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nate is slumpin'

pretty hard :/

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jun 28, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ty the man

I think we have found a 1st baseman that can hit

by long4willie on Jun 28, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know he doesn't suck yet

but if we need a nickname for Ty, what should it be? I’ve got nothing….

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jun 28, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If I may say so

I love this nickname.

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jun 29, 2008 10:49 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Navarro stealing

Isn’t Benji Molina faster?

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 28, 2008 9:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Who's up

in the pen?

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 28, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yank. Him. Now.

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 28, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Whewww

what a gutsy pitcher

by long4willie on Jun 28, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

attaboy, Walkman

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 28, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Someone remind me....

When is it LaRoche is supposed to get hot? Hitting .213 in June…..

by Hitman Easler on Jun 28, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dunno

I’m sure DK will make more excuses for him soon in the P-G though… he’s totally in love with him.

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jun 28, 2008 9:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

C'mon,

Eye Chart!

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 28, 2008 9:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

attaway!

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 28, 2008 9:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

AWESOME!

Bucs retake the lead!

by Bad Andy on Jun 28, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It’s funny how such a seemingly puzzling acquisition like Minky or Nate Sr. has actually been one of the best moves the Pirates have made this season…

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jun 28, 2008 9:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The roach

almost cost us a run. He Cadillac’d it the last half of the way between 3rd and home. I’m not sure the run would have counted if Minky would have been out at 2nd.

by Thunder on Jun 28, 2008 9:51 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's one of those things

people say, but logically, why should it?

by bucdaddy on Jun 28, 2008 9:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just think

that baseball, being a game of repetition, makes moves like that become magnified somehow…. I could be completely wrong, though…

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jun 28, 2008 9:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think he's pressing

trying to make up for Freddy either hitting in front of or behind him?

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 28, 2008 9:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That, too

he’s constantly being asked to pick up his teammates

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jun 28, 2008 9:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Holy Schnikes!

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 28, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

14 pitches so far to Gomes

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 28, 2008 10:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Careful

he might start a fight

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jun 28, 2008 10:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

15 pitch

tater

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 28, 2008 10:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think you have to give credit where it's due.

Heck of a battle between Marte and Gomes. Credit Gomes with an excellent AB.

by Thunder on Jun 28, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It was incredible

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jun 28, 2008 10:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Man

we’re gonna lose this and it’s gonna be a really tough loss to swallow. I just have a bad feeling here.

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jun 28, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

same here

I freaking HATE interleague baseball

by Bad Andy on Jun 28, 2008 10:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Aw piss

Cue the merry-go-round music.

by bucdaddy on Jun 28, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He's gotta stay awesome

so we can get good equity when we trade him! Cmon, Marte!

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jun 28, 2008 10:08 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Whew

that’s the most I’ve seen Marte scuffle all season

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jun 28, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Let's

get it back!

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 28, 2008 10:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Way to fight guys...

way to fight…

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jun 28, 2008 10:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

0-4,

3 K’s.

Gah.

Guess he was due for one of those.

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 28, 2008 10:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Everyone

on Tampa now has a hit except for the SP

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 28, 2008 10:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ugh

Where’s a plane crash when you need one?

by bucdaddy on Jun 28, 2008 10:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

X

marks the spot.

by bucdaddy on Jun 28, 2008 10:35 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LETS GO BUCS

LETS GO BUCS

LETS GO BUCS

LETS GO BUCS

by Bad Andy on Jun 28, 2008 10:35 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know it's not his fault

But Black Hole looks like a child molester or serial killer. Or serial child killer.

by bucdaddy on Jun 28, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wilson too

He and LaRoche together would look like two train robbers from the 1880s. The Not-hit Gang.

by bucdaddy on Jun 28, 2008 10:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There's what ...

50 people still in the stands? They cancel the fireworks or something?

by bucdaddy on Jun 28, 2008 10:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm a dork for corny baseball stuff

so I’m just gonna go ahead and say that I think it’s hilarious that the Parrot has a big goofy raincoat.

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jun 28, 2008 10:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bonus baseball

not necessarily a good thing.

by Thunder on Jun 28, 2008 10:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Our chances at winning just plummeted...

check out what’s left in each bullpen….....yikes.

by Hitman Easler on Jun 28, 2008 10:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This one

goes to 11.

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 28, 2008 10:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In our songs,

we say, “Love your brother.”

Well, we don’t actually say it…

We don’t actually mean it,

but that message should be clear.

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 28, 2008 10:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good move to keep Capps in there.

I think they score on whoever we bring in next.

by Hitman Easler on Jun 28, 2008 10:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Another extra-innings game:

I hope all the `pen arms don`t fall off before September.

by patthatt on Jun 28, 2008 10:49 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

HAHA

Ah! Leah! just came up on my last.fm

We are destined to win now.

Heh.

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 28, 2008 11:05 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh, I didn't say

this inning or anything, y’know…

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 28, 2008 11:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Watching the music vid on youtube...

it’s awesome in a really awful way

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jun 28, 2008 11:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oooh

I’ll hafta look that one up!

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 28, 2008 11:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

While you're at it

look up Pants N’at

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jun 28, 2008 11:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

even money

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 28, 2008 11:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

odds on my

crackin’ another beer?

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 28, 2008 11:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

see?

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 28, 2008 11:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What's

he doing now?

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 28, 2008 11:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He didn't grand the Bucs a time out when X batted

nor did he call a strike on Longoria’s check swing and now the strike zone is shrinking.

by Bad Andy on Jun 28, 2008 11:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

TJ Beam

is actually doing a respectable job

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jun 28, 2008 11:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Give that man

a Jim Beam and make it a double!

by patthatt on Jun 28, 2008 11:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Uh oh

JVB up in the pen.

by Thunder on Jun 28, 2008 11:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

JVB warming up...

guess we’re conceding the game

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jun 28, 2008 11:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Who's warming up?

JVB or Burnett?

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 28, 2008 11:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

CGz

1 pitch? WTF – you been hangin’ with Freddy?

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 28, 2008 11:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As Kanye West would say

AW HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL NAW

by Bad Andy on Jun 28, 2008 11:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

With Burnett throwing 3 innings

last night…guessing he’s the last resort before the starters…what’s left of them.

by Thunder on Jun 28, 2008 11:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"looks like?"

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 28, 2008 11:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs