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Jamie Romak Still at Lynchburg

Dejan Kovacevic's chat today:

Sack_Lodge: DK, does mgmt. view Jamie Romak as a legit prospect? Nice average and power numbers in "A" ball. Are the 64 k's in 50 games stoppping a promotion to Altoona?

Dejan Kovacevic: The strikeouts are a problem. The lack of walks, too. Lots of home runs means little at that level, unless accompanied by some patience.

I think this is a misdiagnosis. Yes, the strikeouts are an issue. (Romak has 64 in 186 at bats, which is terrible.) But they're only part of the issue. Here's the rest of Romak's line so far:

.301/.387/.597, 16 doubles, 13 homers, 24 walks

Looks great, right? You can hardly fault a guy who's posting a .984 OPS. The problem, though, is that the strikeouts are likely to eat him alive when he moves up unless he makes adjustments.

Remarkably, in Romak's last ten games, he's had 38 at bats, 17 strikeouts... and 13 hits, seven of which went for extra bases. He's made only eight outs that weren't strikeouts. He also drew five walks over that span.

Patience is not Romak's problem. He has well over one walk for every ten at bats this year, which is very good; last year, he drew 55 walks against 294 at bats at Lynchburg. Keep in mind that I've never seen Romak play, but from watching the numbers and scouting reports closely, it appears the real problem might be that he's too patient, waiting endlessly for the perfect pitch, getting deep into counts as a result, and racking up strikeouts and walks. That approach can work at Class A where pitchers don't have any command--they'll walk lots of batters, and they'll throw a fair number of meatballs too. But it probably won't work even one level higher, at AA, where pitchers' command tends to be much better.

Maybe the Pirates have good reasons for keeping Romak at Lynchburg I don't know about, but from my semi-informed reading of the numbers, I wonder if the pitching there is just a crutch that keeps him from learning what he really needs to know. I'd be interested to see what he'd learn if he moved up to Altoona.

By the way, the Pirates should consider him a real prospect. The odds are against him, but his upside could be quite high if he can adapt as he moves up. Ryan Howard was a year older than Romak when he played at Class A+, and he posted slightly worse numbers there than Romak has now. Keeping in mind that Howard was playing in a tougher league for hitters, that may be a wash. But Howard also struck out at a rate similar to Romak's and walked a bit less. Players like Howard who make it are pretty rare, but if you've got one, I wouldn't dismiss him.

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Any easy way to find out how many times he’s whiffed swinging/looking?

I hate pre-emptive changes to hitters. If they’re trying to teach him to do/not do something and won’t promote him until he changes, I’d be pissed. Guys with odd swings and hitches have made it. Ichiro isn’t exactly conventional in the way he swings. The Yankees thought Buhner would never last with his hitch. After he started hitting bombs with regularity, the hitch was “a timing mechanism.” If not now, when?

by azibuck on Jun 30, 2008 10:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Swinging/looking

You can look at the game logs on MiLB.com. Last night, for instance, Romak’s one K was looking. Not exactly easy, though.

I’ve seen Romak a number of times now and Charlie is correct—Romak takes a lot of pitches and gets deep into counts. Steve Lerud had the same problem, but he’s become more aggressive this year and is doing better possibly as a result.

by WTM on Jul 1, 2008 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Deep into counts

I should have said “often falls behind in the count,” seeing as how getting deep in the count isn’t a bad thing necessarily.

by WTM on Jul 1, 2008 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Updated chat transcript

Dejan corrected himself on the walks:

“Dejan Kovacevic: The strikeouts are a problem. The lack of walks, too. Lots of home runs means little at that level, unless accompanied by some patience.
EDIT: Check that. Romak’s walks are fine. Got him momentarily confused with Brad Corley. But the strikeouts definitely are a problem.”

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08182/893760-63.stm

by azibuck on Jul 1, 2008 12:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hard to imagine a young guy batting .300 who’s going to listen to constructive criticism about the distribution of his outs.

by Arnold Rothstein on Jul 1, 2008 4:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I suppose, but...

This may or may not have mattered, we’ll never know for sure, but was Duke wise to listen to Colborn, when Colborn walked in the door and changed something that was spectacular before? If it ain’t broke…

by azibuck on Jul 2, 2008 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Romak 2-4 today with another homer, what the hell are we waiting for here? Also, Negrych is still batting 360 and not getting promoted.

I am starting to suspect that I know more about our minor league system than Huntington does. Maybe we should get WTM to be our GM.

by houksyndrome on Jul 1, 2008 11:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

who is blocking them...

at Altoona. I read where Matt Hague and Jordy Mercer were bumped up to Hickory because of a log jam of players of similar positions in State College. Shelby Ford and Negrych both play 2B.

by ElliottBayBucco on Jul 2, 2008 1:09 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

My overwhelming experience

in competitive endeavors (not baseball) has been that once one has mastered low-level competition the only way to get better is to move to a higher level. One may do poorly at first while learning that the techniques employed against weak competition do not work well at the higher level but no amount of additional low-level experience will help prepare you for the jump. Continued exposure to weak competition can even make the jump to a new level more difficult as the bad habits formed can become more deeply rooted and thus harder to break.

by WestCoastBuc on Jul 2, 2008 11:29 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Exactly. That has been true in my life as well.

I just don’t see what we gain by keeping him in Lynchburg. He is already 22-23 years old, it’s not like he is 18 and we can take our time here. The next thing you know he’ll be 26 and in AAA if we don’t hustle.

by houksyndrome on Jul 3, 2008 3:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Challenge him

He’s obviously made some adjustments, seeing as how he’s hitting .300 instead of his usual .250 or so. But how is he going to make further adjustments when what he’s doing now works against the pitchers he’s facing? If he needs to change his approach, he needs to be facing pitchers who REQUIRE him to do it.

Aramis Ramirez went through something like this in AAA when the pitchers there stopped throwing him fastballs. He got very passive at the plate and drew a lot of walks, but his power dropped off. When he reached the majors to stay and faced pitchers who were more inclined to challenge him, he became much more aggressive and hit 34 HRs his first full year.

by WTM on Jul 3, 2008 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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