Yankees vs. Pirates, 10 July 2008
by Charlie on Jul 10, 2008 7:38 PM EDT
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New York Yankees at Pittsburgh Pirates, Jul 10, 2008 7:05 PM EDT
Here's the box. Mike Mussina vs. Paul Maholm--the same matchup as the game that got cancelled--at 7:05.
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Sanchez hitting 2nd again...
His auto out in that spot renders the rest of the lineup almost meaningless…unless Maholm holds the Yankees to 2 or less or the Bucs hit lots of solo homers.
by Hitman Easler on Jul 10, 2008 6:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Buccos
CF Nate
2 WTF???
C Doumit
LF Jason-ity
RF X-Man
1 Black Hole (no more?)
3 Joey Bats
P Maholm
SS Wilson
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
by UtesFan89 on Jul 10, 2008 6:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It took Mussina
5 pitches to get out of the 1st inning.
Nice job guys.
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
by UtesFan89 on Jul 10, 2008 7:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Of course
DeadFred hit the first pitch.
by Hitman Easler on Jul 10, 2008 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why WOULDN'T you
throw Freddy BP speed down the middle? I’d put it on a tee for him and still get him out 80% of the time.
by bucdaddy on Jul 10, 2008 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How many of them would be K's?
50% of the outs?
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
by UtesFan89 on Jul 10, 2008 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jack to lead off next inning
Lineup works for that inning you say? Sanchez hits third.
Deah horse and all I know, but I just don’t understand Russell’s logic with Sanchez.
by Hitman Easler on Jul 10, 2008 7:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That
would a deaD horse of course.
by Hitman Easler on Jul 10, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did Madonna
travel to Pittsburgh tonight?
by Hitman Easler on Jul 10, 2008 7:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I heard Madonna was seen today . . .
. . . checking in at Oakland’s own Webster Hall Hotel. The ballplayers’ girls love that place.
by WstCstBucco on Jul 10, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Three solid innings for Maholm so far. It’d be nice if he could go seven or more.
by Charlie on Jul 10, 2008 7:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It
could take more than that.
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
by UtesFan89 on Jul 10, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Possibly, but I’m just concerned about giving the bullpen some rest.
by Charlie on Jul 10, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Credit where it is due
Good job Sanchez. Now get that OBP over .300
by Hitman Easler on Jul 10, 2008 7:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Aim lower.
I say hits in 2 straight at bats is a start.
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
by UtesFan89 on Jul 10, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or maybe
3 straight games is more reasonable…
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
by UtesFan89 on Jul 10, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now
you are just being silly. :)
by Hitman Easler on Jul 10, 2008 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oops.
:)
3 straight months?
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
by UtesFan89 on Jul 10, 2008 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maholm cruising
Just hope he avoids that implosion inning where he walks 3 or gives up multiple solo shots.
by Hitman Easler on Jul 10, 2008 8:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Baiting me ... must ... keep ... quiet ...
by bucdaddy on Jul 10, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Baiting you???
How do you think I feel with all the Freddy hate???
by matskralc on Jul 10, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't hate Freddy...
I hate JR’s decision to bat him at the top of the order. Make your case for keeping him up there.
by Hitman Easler on Jul 10, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've linked to it twice on here
and won’t degrade Charlie’s fine website by linking to my drivel again, but essentially, based on his batted ball types, Freddy has been one of the unluckiest batters I’ve ever seen.
A high school chemistry teacher of mine had a favorite saying: “The answer isn’t the answer, the process is the answer.” The results of Freddy’s plate appearances cannot be where the analysis ends. How is he getting to those results? When you look at it, Freddy isn’t really doing anything different than he’s always done: his strikeout rate has barely increased, he’s hitting just as many line drives as he used to (those turn into hits, on average, about 75% of the time), he’s hitting slightly more groundballs (which are hits at a much lower rate than line drives, but higher, of course, than the flyballs he’s hitting fewer of).
What’s happening is that his liners are being hit right at outfielders and his groundballs are being hit right at infielders. There isn’t much he can do about that than wait for his luck to even out.
A much simpler argument, though: who else do you put there? We’ve got four good hitters in our OF+Doumit. The other four are interchangeably ineffective.
Also, batting order doesn’t matter that much in terms of scoring runs. The most efficient lineups will score a handful of runs over the course of an entire season more than a standard cliche type of lineup. Usually not even enough to amount to an extra win.
by matskralc on Jul 10, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Follow up
Pitch F/X data also shows that Freddy is getting fewer good pitches to hit this year, and is therefore swinging at more pitches out of the zone. This difference wasn’t incredibly significant, though, but enough to be noticeable in the data.
by matskralc on Jul 10, 2008 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You and JR must have had the same chemistry teacher
I don’t want to argue about it too much, because shocking as it may seem, I actually like Freddy. He is a great dude and he and his wife are assets to the community.
That said, regardless of how it is happening , he is getting on base at a .260 ish clip. That is atrocious. He has never been inclined to walk a lot and you would like to see runners on for your better hitters. This is where you and I will disagree about lineups not meaning much.
As for who else? Pick someone that gets on base more for Bay , Doumit, Nady, and company to knock in.
by Hitman Easler on Jul 10, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He might be having the worst luck ever...
but you can’t use that to justify him being in the #2 batter.
Can you?
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
by UtesFan89 on Jul 10, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not quite, no
First, as I already remarked, lineups aren’t that important. Managers act like they are because it’s one of the single biggest things they can influence. Study after study after study have shown the best possible lineups and worst possible lineups are maybe a few tens in runs apart over the course of the season. The difference between best and worst (and major league managers are actually pretty efficient at creating lineups: the “worst” possible lineups are never seen) lineups are 1, 2, maybe 3 wins in an entire season. So, lineup just isn’t that important.
Secondly, part of the point of my comment is that Freddy’s results, because of his process, are likely to even out over the long run.
by matskralc on Jul 10, 2008 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well yeah
The fact that Freddy can’t draw a walk to save his life is why he’s never been as valuable as he initially appeared. For exactly the reason we’re seeing this year: when the hits ain’t dropping where they ain’t, he brings nothing else to the table. This is the danger of relying on batting average as both a measure of skill and value: it’s too fickle.
by matskralc on Jul 10, 2008 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe
this IS his luck evening out for the batting championship season when EVERYTHING fell in.
by bucdaddy on Jul 10, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely
But his batting components are exactly the same. Freddy’s “true” results are probably in between this year and 2006. Also known as 2007!
by matskralc on Jul 10, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2007 OPS+
= 103. He’s a thoroughly average player.
by bucdaddy on Jul 10, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
103 OPS+...
...is actually a little above average for a middle infielder. If he were still at 3B, it’d be just about average, but the offensive baseline is lower for a 2B.
Pretty minor quibbble, though.
by Vlad on Jul 11, 2008 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Freddy with a sac fly
2 runs batted in for Freddy!
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
by UtesFan89 on Jul 10, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone know
Exactly what was our record going into the All -Star break last year? Even though I believe we are a better team this year than last, I remember we went on a bit of a tear right before the break (followed by losing what? 15 of 16 after it?).
by PureTekulve on Jul 10, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
40-48
and came out of the break losing 14 of 16.
by Thunder on Jul 10, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and finished the season
losing 13 of 15.
by Thunder on Jul 10, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone noticing Mussina's Pitch Count?
Just 5 pitches in the first inning.
But 81 more pitches over the next 4 innings.
Still no BB, though.
by WstCstBucco on Jul 10, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That sucked
Still 7 solid innings from Maholm. Maybe Freddy will knock in another run this inning and give him a chance to win it. :)
by Hitman Easler on Jul 10, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nate the Great!!
I hate that when Brown says it, but whatever.
by Hitman Easler on Jul 10, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It was a beutiful homer, deep into the stands
Also, Yankees broadcasters are all in love w/PNC park
by Trogluddite on Jul 10, 2008 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"I hate that when Brown says"
That’s all you really have to say.
by matskralc on Jul 10, 2008 9:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What an ass!
That guy just shoved his glove in front of that little kid with a glove to steal that foul ball A-Rod just tossed into the stands.
by matskralc on Jul 10, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow,
I’ve noticed that since I’ve quit watching games, we seem to be battling back a lot better. A 2 run lead on the Yanks was NOT what I was expecting.
I’m still too shell-shocked to watch, but rock on!
.500 or bust...
by phillybucco on Jul 10, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The good news is
we have been battling back much better this year
The bad news is we’ve had to do it so much
by Trogluddite on Jul 10, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
6 pitches
Does he dare trot him back out there in the ninth?
by Hitman Easler on Jul 10, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
D. Marte
auditioning for a trade to the Yanks
by Trogluddite on Jul 10, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I quote the announcers
Every team in contention is looking f/left-handed relief
Marte is at the top of that list
by Trogluddite on Jul 10, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marte in.
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
by UtesFan89 on Jul 10, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He's "coveted" around the league
Isn’t coveting a bad thing?
by Trogluddite on Jul 10, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
According to Hannibel Lecter.
by Hitman Easler on Jul 10, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speed + Power + short right field porch =?
by Trogluddite on Jul 10, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
shwew! Last pitch was hard,
but low – Giambi got under it
by Trogluddite on Jul 10, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love watching Marte pitch
Too bad he’ll be doing it in a different uniform before long
by matskralc on Jul 10, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What a confrontation
Kind of funny how into it Blass is, too
by matskralc on Jul 10, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
On a different note
Mike Gonzalez has only pitched 8 innings f/Braves this year
by Trogluddite on Jul 10, 2008 9:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Game!
A series win!!!
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
by UtesFan89 on Jul 10, 2008 9:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
edit
A series win against the Yankees!!!!
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
by UtesFan89 on Jul 10, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whoo Hoo
Sweep LaRussa and crew now!
by Hitman Easler on Jul 10, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Another win over the Yankees-
and hopefully Marte ups his trade value.
by patthatt on Jul 10, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sanchez(And I don't mean DIRTY)
I don’t think that Freddy forgot how to hit. That situation with his shoulder has to be affecting his swing in some way….
by rissaldar on Jul 11, 2008 4:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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