St. Louis Cardinals @ Pittsburgh Pirates GameThread, Jul 11, 2008 7:05 PM EDT

Cardinals vs. Pirates, 11 July 2008

by Charlie on Jul 11, 2008 6:40 PM EDT Comment 33 comments

St. Louis Cardinals @ Pittsburgh Pirates

Kyle Lohse and Zach Duke, 7:05.

Yesterday while I was exercising I was thinking about who the comeback players of the year would be. Just one of those dumb things you think about when you're doing something mundane. I came up with Mike Mussina--last night's opposing starter--for the AL. But I couldn't think of anyone for the NL. Jason Bay, Scott Olsen or Brian Giles might be among the best choices--or maybe Brad Lidge. But the best I could come with on the treadmill was "somebody who pitches for the Cardinals." (Bay, for some reason, totally escaped me.)

Tonight's starter Lohse might be the guy, but then it's unclear to me whether "comeback player" means you have to have been good at one point and then stunk and then come back, or whether you can just skip that first step where you're good. If it's the latter, Lohse might be a popular pick--he has a terrific 10-2 record, which I'm sure the voters will care about even if I don't, and he has a sparkling 3.61 ERA that's easily the best in his career. His 4.5 strikeouts per nine suggests he's going to come back to earth somewhat, but he could be the usual Lohse the rest of the year and still have his best season since 2002.

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boxscore

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/boxscore?gid=280711123

Sanchez bats 2nd, Bautista 7th, Wilson 9th.

by humbucker on Jul 11, 2008 6:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Pretty much

SSDD. (same stuff, different day).

by Thunder on Jul 11, 2008 6:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Missed opportunity there. Bay got a meatball to hit and he just missed it.

by Charlie on Jul 11, 2008 7:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Kurkjian

I was watching Sportscenter and Tim Kurkjian was talking us trading Nady to the Mets but said “I heard again today that the Pirates are asking a lot for him”.

God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...

by fugimaster24 on Jul 11, 2008 7:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Do the Mets have much to offer? They have Fernando Martinez and little else, right?

by Charlie on Jul 11, 2008 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Joe Niese, Nick Evans, Aaron Heilman, Mike Perfrey

by Bad Andy on Jul 11, 2008 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I've heard of Heilman & Pelfrey

are they all pitchers?

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 11, 2008 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I guess Evans is mildly interesting. Niese has good stats but not great stuff. The others, no thanks.

by Charlie on Jul 11, 2008 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

How about

Oliver Perez :)

by Bukanier on Jul 11, 2008 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Great.

by Charlie on Jul 11, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Looks like it's back to Square One for Duke.

by Bad Andy on Jul 11, 2008 7:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

The image of Nate McLouth trotting in to second has become very familiar.

by Charlie on Jul 11, 2008 7:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

MLB leader in 2Bs with 33

by Bad Andy on Jul 11, 2008 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Kurkjian

I’m not sure he was speaking only of the Mets. I think he meant, across the board, we’re asking for a lot.

God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...

by fugimaster24 on Jul 11, 2008 8:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

and we should

by Bad Andy on Jul 11, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

this place is as silent

as the Pirates bats.

by Thunder on Jul 11, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Well, it is Friday night.

by Charlie on Jul 11, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

and if I wasn’t sick, I probably wouldn’t be here either.

by Thunder on Jul 11, 2008 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m on the West Coast, so it’s only 6:30 here. I’m still at work.

by Charlie on Jul 11, 2008 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I

fell asleep midway through the game…
just recently got back up.
And the game hasn’t had much happening either…

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 11, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not much to say that hasn't already been said.

-Freddy shouldn’t be batting #2.
-Fire sale.
-What’s JR thinking?
-The offense sucks.
-The pitching sucks.
etc…

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 11, 2008 9:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

More wonderful news from Lynchburg

Moskos 5+ IP, 7 H, 6 R, 6 ER, 3 BB, 1 K, 3 WP.

by Thunder on Jul 11, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

We must have different definitions

for wonderful. :)

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 11, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

9th inning, down by 6

Time for a rally.

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 11, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Indy's pitching staff

is getting folded, spindled and mutilated by Toledo tonight, down 11-3 in the 6th.

by Thunder on Jul 11, 2008 9:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

That's because

the Pirates have been calling their staff up to get mutilated in the majors.

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 11, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Game.

Ugh.
I say we go get some pitchers. Like now.

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 11, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Only question is where to get them from?

Certainly not Indianapolis or Altoona. We’ve seen how well that has worked.

by Thunder on Jul 11, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Cleveland's garbage

Drese, Richert ain’t workin out for us either.

by Bad Andy on Jul 11, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't know if anyone will see this, but

this is awesome.

Just replace Gomez with Freddy, Gardenhire with JR, and lead-off with #2 batter. And speed with something else…

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 11, 2008 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs