Pirates 12, Cardinals 11

by Charlie on Jul 12, 2008 10:55 PM EDT

I don't have time to really write this up properly right now, but if you've got MLB.tv, you need to watch this one. This was the most exciting Pirates game in years. Yoslan Herrera was about as expected--his breaking ball isn't bad, and his changeup is downright good, but his fastball is straight as a string and slow, and major league hitters won't have any trouble just waiting for it. He gave up a bunch of runs, and the Pirates were down by several runs throughout the middle innings... but then there was one homer, and then another, and then a three-run jack by Nate McLouth and suddenly the Pirates were within one, and then they scored another to tie.

Troy Glaus hit a solo homer in the top of the tenth to put the Cards up by a run, but then Jason Michaels came up against rookie Chris Perez with a man on in the bottom of the tenth and drove the ball over the wall in left-center. It was incredible. The Pirates were apparently completely out of players--Doug Mientkiewicz had been ejected early in the game for arguing a blown call, and both John Grabow and Romulo Sanchez were apparently unavailable due to injury. Michaels' homer was huge.

Seriously, watch this.

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Cards fans

are not taking this loss very well at Viva El Birdos.

by Thunder on Jul 12, 2008 11:39 PM EDT 0 recs

smack to the face
punch to the gut. kick in the groin…You name it. If this doesn’t wake up TLR, Dunc, MO, et al, that serious pitching help is needed now, this team won’t win 80 games. For all the tenacity this club shows at times, there’s only so much the human spirit can handle.

These guys wouldn’t last 2 minutes as Pirates fans…

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jul 13, 2008 10:39 AM EDT up 0 recs

They had

over 500 comments in the post-game thread alone.

Some hilarious, some suicidal, many of them calling it a season-ending loss, and for the Birds to blow up the team and start rebuilding now.

“These guys wouldn’t last 2 minutes as Pirates fans…”

agreed.

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 13, 2008 12:22 PM EDT up 0 recs

at the least Cards front office listens

McClathy/Littlefield were all talk no action

by Bad Andy on Jul 13, 2008 12:29 PM EDT up 0 recs

Listens

to the fans? Regarding players?

I think not.

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 13, 2008 1:07 PM EDT up 0 recs

Oh man

That is hilariously hyperbolic. I mean, come on.

Wooooooooooooo

by EmmaOMG on Jul 13, 2008 12:57 PM EDT up 0 recs

Too bad, so sad-

like they used to say in the Navy. We`ve had to endure crap, crap and more crap most of the crappy time for the past 15 years.

We deserve to have a helluva come-from-behind win.

by patthatt on Jul 12, 2008 11:52 PM EDT 0 recs

No, I don't imagine they would be

These recent games are making me nostolgic for Batting Practice. Is there any chance of bringing him back or would there be too much danger that he would bear up our Gm or something?

by WestCoastBuc on Jul 12, 2008 11:53 PM EDT 0 recs

They're obviously not used to losing

in horrifyingly painful fashion.
They should learn from us…

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 12, 2008 11:53 PM EDT 0 recs

11 years ago

incidentally, eleven years ago today, the pirates played another thrilling ten inning affair… the story there was frankie cordova and ricky rincon teaming up to no-hit the ‘stros…

by Captain Easychord on Jul 12, 2008 11:57 PM EDT 0 recs

Can I pitch

Obviously this team needs to get rid of all the pitchers for something useful like Nachos or two ply toilet paper. I am sick of seeing our great offense have to score 12 runs just to have a shot at winning..

we can keep Pauly…and maybe Dookie

by .500 Please on Jul 13, 2008 12:13 AM EDT 0 recs

Now we understand a move or two.

Reason that Doumit went to first in the 10th…was because LaRoche injured his thumb on the foul pop he screwed up. X-rays negative.

Rotation for coming out of break….Maholm, Snell, TBA, Duke, TBA.

http://pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/s_577419.html

by Thunder on Jul 13, 2008 12:15 AM EDT 0 recs

I just heard

The dodgers offered Andre Eathier for Jack Wilson. I would hate to see jack go but I have been watching Eathier play since he was with the Midland Rockhounds in the A’s system and the boy can hit. If they lose Nady it would be a nice addition. But then we have to look at Bixler again

by .500 Please on Jul 13, 2008 1:01 AM EDT 0 recs

Source on that?

by EmmaOMG on Jul 13, 2008 2:04 AM EDT up 0 recs

i dont

know .500’s source, but kurkjian mentioned the same deal on BBTN

by geeves on Jul 13, 2008 2:20 AM EDT up 0 recs

Kurkjian

He simply said he has heard Either’s name come up in talks between the Pirates and Dodgers for Wilson. He did not say it was a one-for-one proposal or what the package of players might be. They also mentioned that Kemp is “not going anywhere.”

by Brakeman8 on Jul 13, 2008 12:41 PM EDT up 0 recs

I like Ethier

.293 career BA in just under 1200 ABs (struck out only 193 times)

OBP in the .350s SLG .460 OPS 810

20-25 HR guy.

A potentially valuable addition and with Cutch would make a formatiable outfield of Cutch, McLouth, and Ethier come August 1st.

by Bad Andy on Jul 13, 2008 8:20 AM EDT up 0 recs

What makes you so sure

that “Cutch” will form any part of a formidable OF in Pittsburgh on a daily basis? He has a good bit of that dreaded word “potential,” but hasn`t been overwhelmingly impressive at AAA so far this year.
I`m not saying he won`t be a good player, but I think there has been too much of a tendency for some to assume he will be a sure-fire everyday player in the very near future.

I don`t think the current front office people are banking the future of 2/3 of the Pirates` OF on Cutch or Pearce for that matter.

Also, I think it is becoming increasingly clear that the front office is fielding offers to trade Marte and Nady to get the best quality arms they can get for 2009 and beyond. I don`t think Wilson and/or Bay will go anywhere unless another GM knocks Huntington`s socks off with offers he can`t refuse.

by patthatt on Jul 13, 2008 8:35 AM EDT up 0 recs

I think Dejan Kovacevic

made it pretty clear the other day how highly management values Jack Wilson and how they know they can keep him thru 2010. It will take more than Andre Ethier to get Jack. I still don`t think he`s going anywhere unless Coletti is willing to bet the farm on Jack helping them into the postseason.

by patthatt on Jul 13, 2008 2:16 AM EDT 0 recs

remember

patt, this IS coletti we’re talking about. he wants to win, like, yesterday. the NL West sucks so bad that they’re still serious contenders. his current shortstop platoon consists of a) a 28 year old playing his first ever major league ball, b) a 30 year old who only played 9 games last year because he’s such an awful hitter, and c) a guy who is turning 35 in 10 days, hasnt played shortstop in three years, and could die (or just blow out his groin) any day. odds are he’ll do whatever it takes to not suffer that platoon for two months.

by geeves on Jul 13, 2008 2:43 AM EDT up 0 recs

I Got that Info from XM

I think it would be a good trade considering they were thinking about giving Nady to the Dbacks for there SS prospect and some pitching. This is a trade that makes sense. I don’t think that they would get rid of Bay, Nady seems to be the one to go because of his Boras status, and next years asking price. I would think that Wilson will be worth more than one player though just because of his multi year value

by .500 Please on Jul 13, 2008 12:42 PM EDT 0 recs