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Pirates vs. Rockies, 19 July 2008

Pittsburgh Pirates at Colorado Rockies, Jul 19, 2008 8:05 PM EDT


Yoslan Herrera vs. Jorge de la Rosa, 8:05 PM. The over-under on runs scored for this game has to be somewhere around 20.

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I'm predicting a 1-0, 15 inning thriller.

Okay… not really.

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 19, 2008 6:04 PM EDT reply actions  

JR's stupidity

CF Nate
2 WTF?
C Doumit
LF Jason-ity
1 Black Hole
RF Nate Sr.
3 Joey Bats
P Herrera
SS Jack

from Dejan’s blog

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 19, 2008 6:07 PM EDT reply actions  

No

X-Man… I thought he was going to be back today…

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 19, 2008 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he was supposed to be.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Jul 19, 2008 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dejan

reports he is back, but JR is sitting him because of “5 days of inactivity”. I’m sorry, but that is just lame. Every team save 8 in the majors just had 4 days of inactivity. Either he is in the process of being moved this weekend, or JR is dumber than I thought.

by Hitman Easler on Jul 19, 2008 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

So apparently the way to respond to the scourge of inactivity is with…. more inactivity?

by Charlie Wilmoth on Jul 19, 2008 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Makes zero sense. Something must be up.

by Hitman Easler on Jul 19, 2008 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or

maybe JR pulled a Tracy, gave X a day for the birth of his child, X took longer, and is being given a timeout.

by Hitman Easler on Jul 19, 2008 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whatever the reason, it's stupid.

The team has scored 5 runs in 2 games in Colorado.
We need more offense.
Get X-Man out there.

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 19, 2008 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, unless

it’s the trade thing.

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 19, 2008 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can’t really see this being the case as from the beginning it was said that Nady would be back Saturday. I like the trade thing until it is disproven

by Chester J Lampwick on Jul 19, 2008 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

11

Was the over under I saw earlier today I think.

by Chester J Lampwick on Jul 19, 2008 6:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Monday's starter

pretty much has to be JVB or a new acquisition. Barthmaier is starting for Indy tonight according to their press notes. Taubenheim is still DL, and we know Dumatrait isn’t ready. Gorzo is listed as tomorrow’s starter at Indy…but the starters for the following 4 days for Indy is the same as ours on Monday (TBA).

by Thunder on Jul 19, 2008 6:43 PM EDT reply actions  

yup

It’s possible when we’re on the road.

by bolton on Jul 19, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Record

for runs scored in a nine inning game? We may see history tonight.

by Hitman Easler on Jul 19, 2008 8:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Just concede the run there, Jack?

That was sharply hit, and Hawpe is not a burner. This inning could have ended 1-0 Bucs.

by DITO on Jul 19, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Wouldn't it be safer for everybody

To just forfeit the game instead of pitching Herrera?

by matskralc on Jul 19, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Good thing I am going

to work in an hour…I won’t have to watch the carnage as our long reliever gets hammered.

by Thunder on Jul 19, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions  

seems like everyone is gone

especially with this blood bath…..Joe Dirt is on comedy Central….so i am out as well

by .500 Please on Jul 19, 2008 8:54 PM EDT reply actions  

We're speechless

It’s hard to think of something new to say about something we’ve been watching for the past 15+ years.

by matskralc on Jul 19, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would have considered leaving him in if I were JR

He was throwing strikes; let him take some more licks out there and try to get through the fourth. That would save the pen a couple of innings and almost certainly have little affect on the outcome of the game.

by DITO on Jul 19, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply actions  

I guess it is time

to start reminiscing about Matt Morris starts. At least he used to last into the 4th before giving up his 7 runs.

by WestCoastBuc on Jul 19, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Painful

This game seems especially painful and for the first time in a long time I’ve switched off the game. I’ll check back later.

I feel bad for Herrera, really out of his element.

by Chester J Lampwick on Jul 19, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Seems like I missed an entire ballgame already

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 19, 2008 9:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Seems like

I missed the crowd as well…

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 19, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not much left to say...

Bucs on the verge of coming out the break and getting swept by the Rockies.

Will the misery ever end?

by Hitman Easler on Jul 19, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still 1 more game in the set

after today.

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 19, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

But it’s Duke vs. Cook. If we can’t hit the dregs they have run out there so far this series, no way we beat Cook.

by Hitman Easler on Jul 19, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

he was amazing in the AS game

got out of jam after jam after jam

Raise the Jolly Roger!
http://raisethejollyroger21.blogspot.com

by Raise the Jolly Roger on Jul 19, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

All for nothing...

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 19, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cook

I believe he hasn’t been as good recently but yeah I’m still with you.

by Chester J Lampwick on Jul 19, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let Jim Beam start

he is shutting them down..lol

I can hardly watch this anymore. I just want something to cheer about

by .500 Please on Jul 19, 2008 9:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Seriously

Why NOT start Beam every fifth day and limit him to three innings, so he can still go an inning or two in between. Then bring in, like, Grabow to pitch three innings, and then let the game situation dictate who gets the final three and in what combination.

Didn’t Leyland try something like that for a couple days once?

Anyway, as a strategy it can’t be any dumber than batting your pitcher eighth. Right now we’re just forfeiting every fifth game. (Every first, second and third game, too, but you get my drift).

by bucdaddy on Jul 19, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

At least

The Beamer has stopped the bleeding for now.

by Hitman Easler on Jul 19, 2008 9:35 PM EDT reply actions  

ah

he hit it hard. He’s actually been hitting a lot of balls hard and getting unlucky lately…

Raise the Jolly Roger!
http://raisethejollyroger21.blogspot.com

by Raise the Jolly Roger on Jul 19, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well... it's time for him to get back on track

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 19, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now

we need Freddy to get hits in close games… you know, when he needs to come through.

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 19, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yankees interested in Bay/Nady
Pittsburgh is asking more for Bay than Nady; minor-league outfielders Austin Jackson and Jose Tabata and pitchers such as Ian Kennedy are names that could be discussed.

RealGM

Do they seriously expect a deal like that to go down?

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 19, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Via NJ.com

Don’t know how reliable it is…

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 19, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Has BP been black balled?

I would take the PR hit and sign him just to avoid this mess every fifth day.

by Hitman Easler on Jul 19, 2008 9:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Black Hole

K’s with corners and 2 outs there.

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 19, 2008 9:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Go figure

One black hole starts to hit, the other reverts back to form.

by Hitman Easler on Jul 19, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gosh Darn!!!

We miss Kip Wells by one game! He’s starting monday

Raise the Jolly Roger!
http://raisethejollyroger21.blogspot.com

by Raise the Jolly Roger on Jul 19, 2008 9:51 PM EDT reply actions  

So much for the vaunted offense

Colorado has thrown two absolute stiffs the last two nights and we can’t do jack against them.

Please Neal, go Kaboom! with this team.

by Hitman Easler on Jul 19, 2008 9:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Hello Salas.

Pleasure to see you again…

Not.

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 19, 2008 10:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes, please

Please, Rox, put in Matt Herges.
Insult + injury.

by bucdaddy on Jul 19, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions  

They have, we have

7 runs on 11 hits.
1 run on 7 hits.

Ugh.

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 19, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply actions  

mccutchen

I noticed he’s not in the lineup tonight. Anyone know why? I read that he and Morgan got into a collision last night, but the article said neither was hurt.

by bolton on Jul 19, 2008 10:11 PM EDT reply actions  

oh yeah,

please don’t break up THIS team…..

by PureTekulve on Jul 19, 2008 10:33 PM EDT reply actions  

And now Osoria

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 19, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply actions  

WoooHoo

Osoria in for comic relief

Raise the Jolly Roger!
http://raisethejollyroger21.blogspot.com

by Raise the Jolly Roger on Jul 19, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Our new ad campaign...

Batters in a slump? Attendance dropping? Pitching Staff need to get back on track? HI, WE’RE THE PITTSBURGH PIRATES & WE CAN HELP!

by PureTekulve on Jul 19, 2008 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

oh my

a scoreless inning? Osoria?

Raise the Jolly Roger!
http://raisethejollyroger21.blogspot.com

by Raise the Jolly Roger on Jul 19, 2008 10:43 PM EDT reply actions  

The end of

the world is near.. Assoria pitches an inning of no run baseball

by Battlin Bob on Jul 19, 2008 10:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Osoria

only PUTS games out of reach, he can KEEP them out of reach just fine…

by PureTekulve on Jul 19, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just

as i was going off about Assoria hitting, they changed it

by Battlin Bob on Jul 19, 2008 10:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Game.

Good to know the team sucks.

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 19, 2008 10:59 PM EDT reply actions  

I`ll sit here and talk to myself

for a while.

I just finished reading Dejan`s blog, and I took the time to read through WTM`s-especially about his mid-season report card for “prospects” in the Pirates` system.

Not that the following represents anything that some here-including myself-haven`t thrown about before, but just to reiterate some points, I really don`t see how anyone can stay up on things related to the PBC and not come to one specific conclusion:

If GM Huntington doesn`t make the right moves with the few bargaining chips we have at the MLB level now, then we could be looking at some scary teams from 2010.

We have almost no talent whatsoever in the minors. Our minor league system flat-out sucks. Other than some legitimate hope for future success from Cutch(let`s Smizik his name for simplicity), Lincoln, and one or two others, there is virtually nothing in the system. It sucks. And we know that some of the most important pieces we have in the majors right now will almost certainly be gone by Opening Day 2010.

Huntington knows he MUST make moves, but if they don`t pan out, we could be looking to celebrate the 25th anniversary of our 100-loss seasons of the mid-80s with some new ones a couple of years from now.

Additionally, if the newbies drafted and signed this year-which hopefully will include Alvarez, Scheppers and one or two other late gambles soon-don`t give us a helluva productive crop over the next few years, if Huntington doesn`t draft real well next year and on, if the “overseas market” doesn`t become productive for us in the near future…man, oh, man, could this get really scary from 2010.

I`m afraid the ghost of Dave Littlefield will continue to haunt us for at least a few more years. And I mean I`m really afraid….

I`m afraid we missed out on our Barry Bonds by not drafting Matt Wieters. Hopefully Pedro Alvarez will be at least as good as Jeff King. It would be a start.

While he is in the process of establishing himself in his relationships with other MLB GMs, let`s hope that Huntington is able to pull off some great deals very soon. That`s all we can do for now.

by patthatt on Jul 20, 2008 1:18 AM EDT reply actions  

I had asked Pirate fans this earlier this season but...

as it looks like another sub .500 season for the Bucs, I ask this question again…

How do you do it?

I pose the whole question on my blog

by SullyBaseball on Jul 20, 2008 5:29 AM EDT reply actions  

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