San Diego Padres @ Pittsburgh Pirates GameThread, Jul 25, 2008 7:05 PM EDT

The line-up

CF Nate
2 Freddy
C Doumit
LF Jason-ity
RF X-Man
1 Black Hole
3 Eye Chart
P Duke
SS Wilson

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 25, 2008 6:29 PM EDT 0 recs

Where

is everyone?

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 25, 2008 7:14 PM EDT 0 recs

X

injured?

by Hitman Easler on Jul 25, 2008 7:22 PM EDT 0 recs

don't know

I saw he’s out of the game though

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on Jul 25, 2008 7:23 PM EDT up 0 recs

or traded?

by Hitman Easler on Jul 25, 2008 7:24 PM EDT up 0 recs

Trade?

Unless he got hurt on his way to the dugout or something.

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 25, 2008 7:24 PM EDT up 0 recs

traded?

by Bad Andy on Jul 25, 2008 7:24 PM EDT up 0 recs

What are Bucco announcers saying?

about X’s departure from the game? If silence, maybe it is a trade.

by WstCstBucco on Jul 25, 2008 7:30 PM EDT up 0 recs

I wonder if Duke

is going to have another 3 masterful innings followed by 9 ERs

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on Jul 25, 2008 7:24 PM EDT 0 recs

Pads score 1 already

UGH!

by Bad Andy on Jul 25, 2008 7:27 PM EDT up 0 recs

Maybe

1 masterful inning followed by…........?

by Hitman Easler on Jul 25, 2008 7:27 PM EDT up 0 recs

If you want to get depressed

Check out the BA against stats of the eligible pitchers in the NL. The bottom two are members of our staff. Surprise I know.

by Hitman Easler on Jul 25, 2008 7:29 PM EDT 0 recs

Sure hope we get Niemann or Davis

after tonight

by Bad Andy on Jul 25, 2008 7:30 PM EDT 0 recs

LaRoche

ties it up.

by Hitman Easler on Jul 25, 2008 7:33 PM EDT 0 recs

NICE!

by Bad Andy on Jul 25, 2008 7:36 PM EDT up 0 recs

Black Hole!

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 25, 2008 7:39 PM EDT 0 recs

per FSN

Marte seen waving bye-bye to his fellow pitchers.

STAY TUNED!

by Bad Andy on Jul 25, 2008 7:41 PM EDT 0 recs

Damaso

One of my favorite Bucs…..oh well, it has to be done.

Good luck my man.

by Hitman Easler on Jul 25, 2008 7:42 PM EDT up 0 recs

according to Lanny...

Marte and Nady are involved in a possible deal pending medical reviews

by Spooner on Jul 25, 2008 7:41 PM EDT 0 recs

Any guesses on where there going

Tampa Bay

by Bad Andy on Jul 25, 2008 7:42 PM EDT up 0 recs

That's my guess

Yankees maybe. Red Sox were on Marte’s trail, but assuming it’s the same deal, I don’t see their use for X.

by biggyv on Jul 25, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up 0 recs

MLBtraderumors commentor...

Marte was seen in the dugout hugging players and shaking hands. Not trying to start a rumor, just speculating that he may be on the move as well.

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 25, 2008 7:42 PM EDT 0 recs

Commenter over at Dejan's blog

saying early word is the Yankees, for all that it’s worth.

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 25, 2008 7:45 PM EDT 0 recs

Ugh.

I don’t feel good about that.

by Hitman Easler on Jul 25, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up 0 recs

WPGB’s Rocco DeMaro tells Rotoworld that a deal involving Xavier Nady is imminent.
The Rays, Yankees, Mets and Braves were among the team’s interested in Nady, with Tampa Bay supposedly the strongest suitor. For what it’s worth, Rays shortstop prospect Reid Brignac is not starting for Triple-A Durham tonight. He’s someone the Pirates would likely ask for in a Nady deal.

by buckos2k on Jul 25, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up 0 recs

do the yankees have stuff to trade?

or maybe it’s a multiple team thing

i did see they had inquired about Dunn

by Spooner on Jul 25, 2008 7:47 PM EDT 0 recs

Ian Kennedy

was rumored at one time. They don’t have a deep system. I really hope it’s not the Yankees.

by Hitman Easler on Jul 25, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up 0 recs

Who

pitches the ninth now???

Walkman? Yikes

by Hitman Easler on Jul 25, 2008 7:50 PM EDT 0 recs

Goodness

There’s one out! Seriously? You’re gonna send him there?

by biggyv on Jul 25, 2008 7:51 PM EDT 0 recs

Huh?

Is there a Pirate game on or something?? I’m just worrying about trades!

Grabow for closer?

by WstCstBucco on Jul 25, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up 0 recs

...

Breaking: Nady and Marte To Yankees.

per wil carrol at BP

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 25, 2008 7:55 PM EDT 0 recs

“In-Game Updates (LIVE from the ballpark): Something’s up after the first inning. Eric Wordekemper is already getting loose in the bullpen after Phil Coke rather efficiently struck out the side.

PHIL COKE PULLED FROM START AFTER ONE INNING. Eric Wordekemper in…he didn’t look hurt and the trade deadline is approaching. No clue what’s going on, guys.”

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 25, 2008 7:58 PM EDT 0 recs

Is this Coke guy

any good?

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 25, 2008 8:00 PM EDT up 0 recs

phil coke

PHIL COKE, LHP Yankees

Proper Name: Phillip Douglas Coke
Born: July 19, 1982 in Sonora, Calif.
School: San Joaquin Delta (Calif.) JC Ht.: 6-1 Wt.: 210
Bats: L Throws: L

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/stats/player.php?id=457435

by buckos2k on Jul 25, 2008 8:02 PM EDT up 0 recs

Coke is how old?

26 years old and playing in High A ball (Tampa Yankees)?

Can this be correct?

by WstCstBucco on Jul 25, 2008 8:05 PM EDT up 0 recs

Doubt the Bucs win this one...

This has to be a huge distraction.

Big picture Hitman, big picture.

by Hitman Easler on Jul 25, 2008 7:59 PM EDT 0 recs

Dang

a 2-run homer for the Padres.
Come on Duke… Herrera pitched better than you are pitching.

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 25, 2008 7:59 PM EDT 0 recs

Tony Beasley

Does he have an equal as a 3B coach?

by thegunner on Jul 25, 2008 8:01 PM EDT 0 recs

rememeber 'waving' wendell kim for the Cubs 2 or 3 years ago

he was hated in Chicago

by Spooner on Jul 25, 2008 8:05 PM EDT up 0 recs

Will Carroll from BP

reporting that Ohlendorf is involved…and at least one other player…possibly 2…don’t know if this is beside Phil Coke or not.

by Thunder on Jul 25, 2008 8:02 PM EDT 0 recs

Maybe

LaRoche can boost his trade value a little bit. I don’t know if anyone would want to have him BEFORE the trade deadline, but maybe after?

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on Jul 25, 2008 8:03 PM EDT 0 recs

that is

acquires some trade value. I doubt there is much right now.

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on Jul 25, 2008 8:05 PM EDT up 0 recs

Per SI

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/baseball/mlb/07/25/pirates.yanks.trade/index.html

Tabata, Ohlendorf, and two other minor leaguers.

by biggyv on Jul 25, 2008 8:04 PM EDT 0 recs

UGH!

Ohlendorf “the next Ryan Vogelsong”
Tabata “19 and over-hyped”

by Bad Andy on Jul 25, 2008 8:05 PM EDT up 0 recs

Yup

Yankees prospects are ALWAYS overhyped.

by biggyv on Jul 25, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up 0 recs

FWIW

pearce not in Indy’s lineup tonight. I suspect he’s on his way to Pittsburgh, as we will need a position player starting tomorrow.

by Thunder on Jul 25, 2008 8:06 PM EDT 0 recs

Looks like LaRoche

will be batting 5th for awhile.

by Bad Andy on Jul 25, 2008 8:07 PM EDT 0 recs

MLBtraderumor commenter...

The Pirates will receive a package of four minor-league players, expected to be Class AAA right-hander Ross Ohlendorf, Class AA right-handers Phil Coke and George Kontos and Class AA outfielder Jose Tabata.

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 25, 2008 8:07 PM EDT 0 recs

Gorzo at Indy

thru 3, three hits, a run and a strikeout. 41 pitches, 27 for strikes.

by Thunder on Jul 25, 2008 8:07 PM EDT 0 recs

I though the Pirates wanted

“major-league ready” guys.

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 25, 2008 8:08 PM EDT 0 recs

per rotoworld

The Pirates will get Jose Tabata, Ross Ohlendorf and two other prospects from the Yankees for Xavier Nady and Damaso Marte, SI.com’s Jon Heyman reports.
Pittsburgh came down off its initial price tag an awful long way then. Tabata still has very exciting potential and is incredibly young, but his wrist problem are scary and he’s looking like a headcase. Ohlendorf has never been a good bet to develop into anything more than a sixth- and seventh-inning guy. Pitcher Phil Coke is also believed to be in the deal, and he’s a true long shot to help.

by buckos2k on Jul 25, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up 0 recs

i really couldn't be any unhappier with this trade

by buckos2k on Jul 25, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up 0 recs

I'm not sure I'd be OK with this deal for just Nady

by biggyv on Jul 25, 2008 8:11 PM EDT up 0 recs

NH...

the next DL?

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 25, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up 0 recs

Will Carroll is saying that Rotoworld is (was?) reporting Austin Jackson

What’s that about?

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Jul 25, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up 0 recs

Nevermind

I see they updated their report.

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Jul 25, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up 0 recs

as I thought

that article about the price tags the Pirates were putting on the players was totally bunk. No reason to drop your price when it is still several days from deadline. Sure, do that on the 30th if need be, but not now. This is all assuming the accuracy of the trade reports.

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on Jul 25, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up 0 recs

Well, with the Bucs staff right now . . .

I’m guessing Ohlendorf will be “major-league ready” for their purposes.

by biggyv on Jul 25, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up 0 recs

Tabata is on the DL

at trenton…if he’s in it, that may be why they aren’t announcing it, until the Pirates see his medical records.

by Thunder on Jul 25, 2008 8:10 PM EDT 0 recs

Yankee's announcers don't know if it's them. .

Michael Kay just said that Marte and X had been traded, don’t know where.

by BenM on Jul 25, 2008 8:13 PM EDT 0 recs

team phot taken today

x was standing right next to marte

by Spooner on Jul 25, 2008 8:13 PM EDT 0 recs

Why couldn't it be with Tampa Bay?

Why?

by Bad Andy on Jul 25, 2008 8:15 PM EDT 0 recs

MLB.com confirming

Ohlendorf, Tabata, Coke, and Kontos.

by biggyv on Jul 25, 2008 8:20 PM EDT 0 recs

SHITTY DEAL!

by Bad Andy on Jul 25, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up 0 recs

pardon my french

by Bad Andy on Jul 25, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up 0 recs

that would be

P, OF, LHP, P?

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on Jul 25, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up 0 recs

Translation

Ross Ohlendorf – Vogelsong
Jose Tabata – Neil Walker
George Kontos – Josh Fogg
Phil Coke – don’t bother

by Bad Andy on Jul 25, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up 0 recs

Not quite

the source confirms Ohlendorf, and says the other 3 are EXPECTED to be Tabata, Coke and Kontos. The fact that Coke was removed from his start seems to verify that he’s in it. And the roster for Trenton on milb.com has Tabata on the DL. that is probably the holdup on an announcement. The peripheral numbers on the 3 pitchers look pretty decent…but haven’t done enough research to see what their upside is.

by Thunder on Jul 25, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up 0 recs

I hope you're right

But I’m not holding out hope

by biggyv on Jul 25, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up 0 recs

who would be in our bullpen

if Marte is gone, Salas?

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on Jul 25, 2008 8:20 PM EDT 0 recs

I really wanted Tabata...

...a year or two ago. I guess 19 is young enough to still develop…that’s what I’m telling myself…

http://www.rockmnation.com
Thrust nunchuk upward!

by The Boy on Jul 25, 2008 8:21 PM EDT 0 recs

I have a feeling . . .

. . . that Tabata is another in a long line of overhyped Yankee prospects.

by biggyv on Jul 25, 2008 8:23 PM EDT 0 recs

Tabata

Yankee Pinstripe blog states that, after checking out all the scouting reports (which it somewhat questions):

“The consensus is that Jose Tabata has a big league bat capable of Manny Ramirez type numbers.”

Anyone know what’s wrong with his wrist? Apparently been giving him trouble all year..

P.S. Not too worried that 19 y.o. kid who’s been playing professional BB since 17 is a bit of a head case. He’s still a teenager.

by WstCstBucco on Jul 25, 2008 8:24 PM EDT 0 recs

Then why . . .

. . . 16 HRs in 1180 ABs?

by biggyv on Jul 25, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up 0 recs

Power comes later

Though Manny was a stud in the minors. Back to Yankee Pinstripe blog, that states:

“Tabata does however have two very good skills that he shares with Manny Ramirez: near inhuman plate discipline for an 18 year old and a tremendous ability to get base hits. He will hit a ton of doubles and get his share of extra base hits. Scouts rave about his swing and his ability to keep his hands in. He’ll be a batting title contender if everything turns out right..”

by WstCstBucco on Jul 25, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up 0 recs

Bay

Rumored to Atl earlier, but it was shot down

by Hitman Easler on Jul 25, 2008 8:25 PM EDT 0 recs

might be why Nady was dealt

can’t imagine both would be moved

by Spooner on Jul 25, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up 0 recs

Yankee's announcers love trade

Needed power left hander, right handed bat. Don’t seem to worried they payed to much. make no mention of prospects lost.

by BenM on Jul 25, 2008 8:25 PM EDT 0 recs

Two 26-yr olds and a guy w/ sketchy wrists?

Ugh….Why the search for “major-league ready” arms? Our major league team isn’t ready to do anything.

by lost_zero on Jul 25, 2008 8:25 PM EDT 0 recs

Newark Star Ledger is rumoring that 4th player is Ian Kennedy, not Kantos

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 25, 2008 8:27 PM EDT 0 recs