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Rockies vs. Pirates, 29 July 2008

Colorado Rockies at Pittsburgh Pirates, Jul 29, 2008 7:05 PM EDT


Glendon Rusch vs. Yoslan Herrera, 7:05 PM.

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God help me I don’t know how many E’s to put after the X, so I’ll do it phonetically: Braves ship TeshEEra to the Angels for Casey Kotchman and a minor-leaguer.

See, this was what I didn’t understand about the Bay-to-the-Braves rumors: Why would the Braves be buyers instead of sellers? I take this as evidence they’re not.

by bucdaddy on Jul 29, 2008 6:29 PM EDT reply actions  

the Bay to the Braves rumors started a little bit ago…Since then the Braves have been terrible, Chipper went on the DL, and Hudson is now probably out for the season. They were on the fence whether or not they would be buyers, but with all that has happened in the past week they became sellers on Teixeira because he is a free agent at the end of the year and they can’t resign him.

by richmondpirate on Jul 29, 2008 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mark Bowman's next rumor is that...

...Kotchman was acquired to flip for Bay, but that Ted Turner or Chief Nockahoma or someone killed that.

Seriously, if you consider Nady’s whole career, and that he’ll be 30 next year, he looks a lot like a kind of generic outfielder next year. Most of his value is as a rental for this year, and when you look at what the Braves got here, then what NH got doesn’t look too shabby.

by Arnold Rothstein on Jul 29, 2008 7:08 PM EDT reply actions  

where's everyone

that was saying after that one Herrera start he had turned the corner? Seems like that start was the fluke, not the 3 others

by richmondpirate on Jul 29, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply actions  

SSDD

same (stuff), different day. Last week was the exception to the rule. Will the next starting candidate sign in please. Guess Jason Davis will get to see some action, and probably at least 1 start before disappearing.

by Thunder on Jul 29, 2008 7:27 PM EDT reply actions  

alright

let’s get something here, c’mon rivas

by northsidenotch on Jul 29, 2008 7:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Herrera

Don’t give up oh him so fast. I don’t think that the Pirate brain trust will. They know he can pitch.

by thegunner on Jul 29, 2008 7:59 PM EDT reply actions  

They also know JVB can pitch

It’s just that JVB and Herrera can’t pitch well.

by Thunder on Jul 29, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha yeah that was going to be my same response

by richmondpirate on Jul 29, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice bunt

first good Pirates bunt of the season :P

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jul 29, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe it's just me

but I feel more confident with Rivas batting than Wilson lately

by Raise the Jolly Roger on Jul 29, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply actions  

McLouth

looks like he’s been toning up a little… I swear he was a little softer-looking earlier in the season.

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jul 29, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply actions  

It would be all sorts of strange

if Rivas were to homer next time up. I think he’d be listed as least likely on the Pirates roster to hit for the cycle. Or at least was, until Bixler got called up today.

by Thunder on Jul 29, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply actions  

What about

the pitcher’s spot?
Or, the way he’s playing now… Jack Wilson

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 29, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wasn't counting pitcher's slot

because on this team the same pitcher bats 4 times in a game about once every 6 weeks.

by Thunder on Jul 29, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is it

really that often?
I was thinking once or twice a season.

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 29, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the past couple of months

have spoiled us.
I’ll have to give you Maholm… let’s say 6 times a season. Max.

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 29, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha

If Bixler ever hits for the cycle, I swear on my beloved dead grandmother’s grave that I will streak through my neighborhood while playing my trombone.

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jul 29, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can't qualify that

you said “ever” first. That means ever.

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 29, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

I still feel about 94% confident that I’ll be safe….

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jul 29, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

nah, I would go with Jack

he can’t hit a homer. Off the bat earlier in the game one looked like it had a shot but it ended up being straight at the OF

by Raise the Jolly Roger on Jul 29, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Russell Better Get Somebody Up

You know that I am a Herrera fan, but this is a good move.

by thegunner on Jul 29, 2008 8:38 PM EDT reply actions  

What an incredibly stupid decision by My Boy Jose. He’s lucky it all worked out.

by matskralc on Jul 29, 2008 8:45 PM EDT reply actions  

why was it stupid?

Slowly hit, Taveras running, that’s a tough play to first. throwing home is basically a sure out…..at the worst you have a full-fldged rundown

by Raise the Jolly Roger on Jul 29, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I missed it.

:(

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 29, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply actions  

BuccoBall™

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jul 29, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Bay hit?

mlb.com came in late…

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jul 29, 2008 8:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Gameday!

Is so slow… :(

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 29, 2008 8:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Smart Thinking ...

The batter would have been dafe at first.

For those of you who are old enough to remember Bob Prince, he would have never mangled the call on the ground ball to Wilson like the clowns in the booth.

by thegunner on Jul 29, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Hmmmm

Bob Prince compliment… The Gunner username… A-HA! YOU’RE THE GHOST OF BOB PRINCE!

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jul 29, 2008 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha

Jason Davis had quite an introduction to Pirates baseball in that inning…

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jul 29, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply actions  

That's My Boy

Layin off those low-and-away breaking pitches.

by matskralc on Jul 29, 2008 8:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Sac fly...

good for CGz

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jul 29, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply actions  

CGz!

Run in.

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 29, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Walkie just beat me to it

but I was about to comment that the Buccos have been more daring on the base paths lately

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jul 29, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice work if you can get it.

Davis comes in, throws 5 strikes, and is in line for the win.

by Thunder on Jul 29, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply actions  

So... who do you have less confidence in when you need a hit...

CGz or Jack Wilson?

Just curious.

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 29, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply actions  

I unfortunately have to say Jack

because CGz doesn’t play enough to give me as consistent a read. He’s popped a few clutch hits here and there…

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jul 29, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean, jeez

there’s an entire section of scouts sitting there watching him

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jul 29, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Matsraic

I think that Walk is fairly knowledgeable about the game. He just has a difficult time describing it, as do ALL of the Pirates’ announcers.

by thegunner on Jul 29, 2008 9:00 PM EDT reply actions  

What's with Rivas?

Looks like he’s removed his goalie glove (April) for a fielders glove.

by Pirate in Ole VA on Jul 29, 2008 9:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Cmon Grabow

Nobody’s gonna want you if you keep this up

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jul 29, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Good

Nate on, let’s get some insurance!

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jul 29, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply actions  

I wish he'd just

bunt Nate to 2nd

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jul 29, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I may say

I agree.

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 29, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

No go.

McLouth out at 2nd, Rivas to first.

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 29, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doumit

has been strapping the team on his back and carrying them for 2 days now

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jul 29, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Hmmm

Greg just said the Pirates are considering trying to keep Minky for next season. I would have no problem with that. He’s got the fire our team needs.

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jul 29, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply actions  

They are fine options

off of the bench.
I’d be fine with it.
Keep Eye Chart for a year or so, and then make him manager.

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 29, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh man

he’d give Pinella and Cox a run for their money on game ejections

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jul 29, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't you get the feeling

Bay wants out of the ‘burgh? He’s hitting his way right out of there!

by 5ksuperdave on Jul 29, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Just got in

nice to see Herrera didnt give u seven or eight…

By the way, Lackey is no-hitting the Sox through 8

by Hitman Easler on Jul 29, 2008 9:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Rivas almost had

the sickest play I’ve seen all season… Still a great stop

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jul 29, 2008 9:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Bautista

not the closer, it doesn’t seem.

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 29, 2008 9:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Or maybe not

he was apparently warming up, though

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jul 29, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, duh

lost track of innings

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jul 29, 2008 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately...with Burnett in...

that means we see Yates, Beam or Gasoline in the 9th.

by Thunder on Jul 29, 2008 9:31 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm going with

Wreck Speck or Beam (not necessarily in that order). They’ve been fine as of late.

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 29, 2008 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jeebus

I hate working late – I get home & it’s the 8th, fer crissakes…

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 29, 2008 9:31 PM EDT reply actions  

You've missed

some major weirdness, too… The top of the 6th (I think) was a circus.

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jul 29, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah well,

one of the fucksticks called in sick, so guess who gets to stay? Yes, the manager (me). Gah.

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 29, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sucks :/

I got stuck kinda late at work tonight, too… I usually get out about 5:45, but tonight, I got out at 7, and by the time I got home from the gym, it was already 8:30

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jul 29, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Work for the government

I haven’t worked an extra minute in the year plus I’ve been doing it!

by matskralc on Jul 29, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kip baby

I can’t believe the team isn’t going to light him up.

They need all the runs they can get if Yates is going to try and close

by WstCstBucco on Jul 29, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jackie

finally found someone he could hit.

by WstCstBucco on Jul 29, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply actions  

If it wasn't for Hamm's beer,

I wouldn’t have no beer at all….

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 29, 2008 9:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Dang it Nate...

we were one hit/walk/error/whatever away from getting Rivas another chance.

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 29, 2008 9:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Walkman it is.

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 29, 2008 9:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Question of the night

Is 4 ER in 5 IP a “quality start” considering the Pirates choices for SP?

by WstCstBucco on Jul 29, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Officially, no

for the Pirates staff, yes.

by Thunder on Jul 29, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

96

Bringing some heat.

by matskralc on Jul 29, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions  

I knew it

He shook Doumit off to the fastball because he wanted to blow one by him to end the game

by matskralc on Jul 29, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Cmon Yates

Burn this turkey

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Jul 29, 2008 9:51 PM EDT reply actions  

RAISE IT!!

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 29, 2008 9:52 PM EDT reply actions  

But do we need

to spot the Rox 3 or 4 runs every night??

by Thunder on Jul 29, 2008 9:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice way

to shake off those post- Nady and Marte blues.

by WstCstBucco on Jul 29, 2008 9:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Game!

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 29, 2008 9:53 PM EDT reply actions  

gunner

Yeah, we`re all real impressed with his 9.00 ERA after 4 starts.

4 runs in 5 innings today.

Hip, hip, hooray!

Banzai!

Now you do the Spanish, gunner: _ _ _ _ _

by patthatt on Jul 29, 2008 10:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Yoslan

Yoslan > JVB, no?

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 29, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

since

JVB has the highest career ERA in the history of baseball (that’s actually true, i read it somewhere…among pitchers with enough innings to qualify). I think: Anybody > JVB

by northsidenotch on Jul 29, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Patt In the Hatt

Dr. Seuss wants to know - what Pirates do you like beside Coonelly and Huntington??

by thegunner on Jul 29, 2008 10:24 PM EDT reply actions  

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