Bucs, Red Sox, Marlins Talking

is getting out of control. Read another rumor that also adds Wilson to the Sox with Lowrie coming our way, One of the snags appears to be that the Marlins want the Sox to add another prospect to the deal. UNfortunately I’ve read so many deifferent versions of this trade I’m probably mixing versions from two different sources. It does sound like there has been some heavy discussions.

I’m drooling at the idea of a 2010 outfield of McCutchen, McLouth and Maybin. There would be no such thing as a Texas Leaguer in PNC.

from mlbtr.com

Marlins get Manny Ramirez, one prospect (BOS), and cash (likely Ramirez’s remaining salary)
Pirates get Jeremy Hermida and three prospects (two FLO, one BOS)
Red Sox get Jason Bay and John Grabow

sounds pretty convincing….confirmed anywhere else yet? Not by Dejann..

I hafta think that it would require Manny’s approval, given his 10/5 status?

10:14 p.m.: ESPN’s Peter Gammons reports that talks will continue into Thursday because of the prospect uncertainty and Ramirez’s 10-and-5.

states that deal has been submitted to the commissioners office for approval. Manmy still has to approve. Dejan states Will Carrol as he stores but says that this has not been confirmed.

but Heyman (over at SI) reports the D-backs offered Chad Tracy for Adam Dunn.

Mike Jacobs pulled from the game. Mike Jacobs anyone?

Hearing that right-handed pitcher Ryan Tucker, who started six games for Florida as a 21-year-old this season, is one of the Marlins’ prospects that would come to the Pirates. But that, according to the source, is tentative. As is the whole deal, actually.

Still on top of it, he is.

Manny is a haul for the Fish, and they are getting cash. Hermida and Tucker could be the only real good players they give up, and the third may be a throw in, but I doubt it. He should be a real prospect, too.

Could it be Lowrie from the Sox?

and just pending Manny’s approval?

are looking at Dunn as a 2nd option should they miss out on Jason-ity.
I guess we root for the D-backs to get Dunn soon, so as to force the Rays back into the Jason-ity bidding?

As midnight approached on Wednesday night, officials from the Marlins and Red Sox said a deal involving Manny Ramirez was not done. Indications from Pittsburgh were that the Pirates were not satisfied with the players they were receiving in exchange for sending Jason Bay to Boston. And in California, Ramirez’s agent, Scott Boras, said he had been told nothing, which means nothing has been completed in terms of Ramirez waving his no-trade rights or in completing paperwork to send to the commissioner’s office.

Link.

That hasn’t even happened yet.

about to talk on ESPN

The Marlins will get Ramirez for Hermida, right-hander Ryan Tucker and two other prospects, with those four players being flipped to Pittsburgh for outfielder Jason Bay and left-hander John Grabow.

Link.

The Marlins are getting Manny and cash—Bucs should get a big haul in this deal and all sides know it.

Also, just overheard ESPN Deportes quoting Ramirez as saying nothing will happen tonight and, in his mind, might never happen within this scenario.

Have a bowl of cereal, and get some sleep, people.

I think he’s talking to me…

leave me something good for 7am

there’s some good news tomorrow morning.

From Kevin Goldstein of Baseball Prospectus.

Mike Stanton (Low-A slugger), Ryan Tucker and Jeremy Hermida go to Pittsburgh
Jason Bay and John Grabow go to Boston
Manny Ramirez goes to Florida, with Boston paying every cent of what’s still owed to him this year.

Kevin Goldstein has good news. Maybe….

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=968

I went to bed at 11:30 and couldn’t sleep (shocking, i know). Here i am and now it looks bad?? Jeeeeeeez!

I’d like to see this thing fall apart at the last minute, the Pirates make a deal with the Rays and Dodgers, and Manny pisses on the Sox the rest of the way.

I kid, I kid, I want the deal thats best for the Bucs, but can anyone remember a time in recent history that the Bucs have had this much leverage? We have 2 races, and 3 teams fates in the offices of 115 Federal St.

Despite what I said earlier, I’d be disappointed if the Bucs didn’t deal Bay at this point. His trade value (and Grabow’s) is at its absolute Zenith due to the desperation of the others.. If you aren’t happy now, you’re just going to be less happy in the Winter, or next years deadline.