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Reds vs. Pirates, 14 August 2008

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Cincinnati Reds @ Pittsburgh Pirates


Johnny Cueto vs. Ian Snell, 7:05.

 

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chavez - game calling

I’m as happy as anyone that Doumit has established himself as an adequate catcher with a big bat. But I still have the nagging feeling (I know this is a minority position on this board) that the pitching might be better if Doumit were a more experienced/better game caller. Particularly in the case of Snell, who seems very predictable and having little interest in actually fooling the hitters. So I have been hoping that Chavez would catch one of his games to see if that might make a difference. Tonight Chavez is catching, so I manage to get this post up before the game. My comment won’t be hindsight if it goes well, though more likely I will look like an idiot by the end of the first inning if Snell throws his usual 30 pitches.

by basmati on Aug 14, 2008 6:32 PM EDT   0 recs

Don't think so

I had read (don’t remember where) that unlike Lazybones Tracy, JR calls all of the pitches from the dugout. So I don’t believe that the catchers have anything to do with calling the game.

If this is true, the only variable between catchers on balls and strikes calls would be their ability to “frame” the pitches. But I don’t even think that framing the pitch is universally recognized, beyond Tim McCarver, Joe Buck and Eric Karros, as something that actually has been proven to affect an umpire’s judgment.

by WstCstBucco on Aug 14, 2008 6:41 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

boxscore

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/boxscore?gid=280814123

note that Yahoo now thinks the two A. LaRoches in the lineup are the same player (before, Andy’s link in boxscores would go to the player index)….

by humbucker on Aug 14, 2008 7:03 PM EDT   0 recs

Pearce back in the line-up.

I don’t get why we can’t bat Nate leadoff and Freddy near the bottom though.

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Aug 14, 2008 7:10 PM EDT   0 recs

wow

a scoreless 1st for Snell. When was the last time that happened?

North Side Notch

by northsidenotch on Aug 14, 2008 7:12 PM EDT   0 recs

Now

I’m alright with that type of lead-off hitting

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Aug 14, 2008 7:16 PM EDT   0 recs

Wonder if the Reds announcers have the true story.

George Grande said the Pirates two choices last night were to put Jack on the DL or send Bautista down. Sounds like cutting Rivas or Gomez was never considered.

by Thunder on Aug 14, 2008 7:19 PM EDT   0 recs

Gah Nate...

you need JR to move you back to leadoff or something.
This just isn’t working.

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Aug 14, 2008 7:20 PM EDT   0 recs

Luigi!

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Aug 14, 2008 7:24 PM EDT   0 recs

Okay...

come on Pearce.

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Aug 14, 2008 7:27 PM EDT   0 recs

Or

not.

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Aug 14, 2008 7:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

F*ck

Lead gone.

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Aug 14, 2008 7:31 PM EDT   0 recs

See Pearce

this is why you have to get a hit.

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Aug 14, 2008 7:31 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

High heat

travels a long way, doesn’t it, Ian?

by Thunder on Aug 14, 2008 7:31 PM EDT   0 recs

I get most of the Reds games on FSN cause I live in Indiana

I’ve gotten used to their ridiculousness. I wish this game was on TV here soo bad

by camoseven on Aug 14, 2008 7:57 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I get

all of them here in Louisville. It sucks

North Side Notch

by northsidenotch on Aug 14, 2008 8:04 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

7-0

Bills,Not sure what the comes out to in US points

by Battlin Bob on Aug 14, 2008 7:58 PM EDT   0 recs

Nibble, nibble, nibble

c’mon Ian, just throw the ball over the plate. Oh well, Encarnacion just pulled a Pearce. Out of the inning.

by Thunder on Aug 14, 2008 8:01 PM EDT   0 recs

Reds announcer Brennaman isn't too bad...

I was on a cross country flight that had xm radio, meaning I could listen to a game. A listener e-mailed Brennaman asking him if John Miller from ESPN was to challenge him to a duel, what weapon would he choose and who would win. Brennaman answers he would choose a harpoon and bring the whale down.

He also got into Griffey Jr.s face when Grif was pissed about comments made of him not running out a grounder. Brennaman says something along the lines of I was here long before you got here and I’ll be here long after you are gone!

by ElliottBayBucco on Aug 14, 2008 8:06 PM EDT   0 recs

And on all 11 pitches

he looked like he was swinging flat-footed. All arms on the swings, no legs.

by Thunder on Aug 14, 2008 8:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

F#!$%ing Steelers

One channel isn’t enough, huh??? :shakesfist:

by matskralc on Aug 14, 2008 8:27 PM EDT   0 recs

If i had direct tv

i would be pissed right now.. Live in Md,and have to listen to the Steelers, no Buccos info, Other then here

by Battlin Bob on Aug 14, 2008 8:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Not even

getting the Steelers. Philly?

Rather watch Olympic badminton.

(actually, I like

,/B> badminton)

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 14, 2008 8:39 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Just got in

doesn’t look like Snell is doing TOO bad?

Anyone watching?

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 14, 2008 8:28 PM EDT   0 recs

I can't

See above. :shakesfistagain:

by matskralc on Aug 14, 2008 8:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

A normal Snell start

nibble here, nibble there, gopher ball to someone that shouldn’t hit one. And WAY too many pitches.

by Thunder on Aug 14, 2008 8:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Business

as usual.

Not throwing inside, is he?

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 14, 2008 8:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I had to.

I didn’t expect any other answer than “no,” though.

——→opening liquor cabinet.

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 14, 2008 8:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

AUGH
5 WALKS?!?

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 14, 2008 8:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

93 pitches in 5 innings for Snell

that was 8 innings worth for Maholm last night.

by Thunder on Aug 14, 2008 8:42 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

ergo

Maholm > Snell.

Do you think he’ll be fighting for a rotation spot come Spring?

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 14, 2008 8:43 PM EDT   0 recs

He keeps this crap up

and he will be battling for a roster spot.

by Thunder on Aug 14, 2008 8:44 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It's lucky we're playing

the Reds.. any other team, we’re getting drilled

by Battlin Bob on Aug 14, 2008 8:44 PM EDT   0 recs

yeah

the Reds are pretty terrible

North Side Notch

by northsidenotch on Aug 14, 2008 8:48 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Gameday

says, in play, no out – and flied to right 1 out?

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 14, 2008 8:49 PM EDT   0 recs

well

wilson flew out to right, moved sanchez to third. then mclouth struckout, and adam laroche just walked

North Side Notch

by northsidenotch on Aug 14, 2008 8:51 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I saw

the K & walk, and even that it was corrected….but sheeesh.

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 14, 2008 8:52 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

you can blame my friend for that

I know the guy who does all of that at PNC Park. Pretty cool job, though, and all the free food and drinks he wants.

North Side Notch

by northsidenotch on Aug 14, 2008 8:54 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

John Wehner

enjoys such luxuries in the PNC All You Can Eat Seats… dude is always shoveling nachos into his gaping maw when they show him on TV

Welp...

by phillybucco on Aug 14, 2008 8:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

well -

tell your friend to get his sh*t together – doesn’t he know that hundreds of goobers are depending on him?

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 14, 2008 8:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

ETA:

Maybe not thousands,

but in particular one fat alcoholic Pirate fan on the North side of Chicago…

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 14, 2008 9:02 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

and then

give one up.

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 14, 2008 9:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Gah

Welp...

by phillybucco on Aug 14, 2008 9:04 PM EDT   0 recs

Snell

Some guys just can’t handle success.

by WstCstBucco on Aug 14, 2008 9:04 PM EDT   0 recs

This

counts as a QS, though, doesn’t it?

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 14, 2008 9:06 PM EDT   0 recs

Doesn't matter

because tonight, only ONE THING MATTERS…

Welp...

by phillybucco on Aug 14, 2008 9:08 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

R

Welp...

by phillybucco on Aug 14, 2008 9:08 PM EDT   0 recs

E

Welp...

by phillybucco on Aug 14, 2008 9:08 PM EDT   0 recs

O

Welp...

by phillybucco on Aug 14, 2008 9:08 PM EDT   0 recs

Methinks

phillybucco has been hittin’ the Stroh’s in anticipation of Ridin’ the Storm Out

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 14, 2008 9:11 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I can't fight this feeling, my friend...

I can’t fight this feeling…

Welp...

by phillybucco on Aug 14, 2008 9:11 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'll bet you

heard it from a friend who

heard it from a friend who…

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 14, 2008 9:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Can't fight this feeling

I think I hate Snell — quality start or no.

It’ll be nice to see him go to the bullpen after September 1 and see if Gorzo and/or Mr. Wonderful can pick up his slack.

by WstCstBucco on Aug 14, 2008 9:11 PM EDT   0 recs

McLouth

keeps trying for that bunt single in pressure cooker at bats. Got it — this time!

by WstCstBucco on Aug 14, 2008 9:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Sacks full

for Mario…

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 14, 2008 9:29 PM EDT   0 recs

and Luigi...

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 14, 2008 9:31 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Let's hope he

can rescue the princess, here…

…and by princess, I mean the team…

Welp...

by phillybucco on Aug 14, 2008 9:31 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Bah.

Bowser wins again… cmon Weegee!

Welp...

by phillybucco on Aug 14, 2008 9:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 14, 2008 9:33 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Hehe

I’m gonna keep on loving’ youuuuu

Welp...

by phillybucco on Aug 14, 2008 9:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Mario down

Oh the humanity. Back to “Black Hole” for you!

Now it’s Luigi’s turn

by WstCstBucco on Aug 14, 2008 9:31 PM EDT   0 recs

yahoo's boxscore is even more screwy than before

says there are just 6 batters in the Bucs’ lineup (no pitchers in the batting order, no Chavez, and only one LaRoche)

by humbucker on Aug 14, 2008 9:34 PM EDT   0 recs

OT Post

Mendenhall guts it out for the TD inside the 10.

by WstCstBucco on Aug 14, 2008 9:35 PM EDT   0 recs

LaRoche Bros

I’m sure they’re not the most popular siblings at PNC Park right now.

by EStreet on Aug 14, 2008 9:35 PM EDT   0 recs

Way to turn a smile upside down guys

Next time don’t forget the power ups.

by WstCstBucco on Aug 14, 2008 9:36 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Bases loaded, no outs

GAH.

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 14, 2008 9:38 PM EDT   0 recs