Reds vs. Pirates, 14 August 2008
Cincinnati Reds at Pittsburgh Pirates, Aug 14, 2008 7:05 PM EDT
Johnny Cueto vs. Ian Snell, 7:05.
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chavez - game calling
I’m as happy as anyone that Doumit has established himself as an adequate catcher with a big bat. But I still have the nagging feeling (I know this is a minority position on this board) that the pitching might be better if Doumit were a more experienced/better game caller. Particularly in the case of Snell, who seems very predictable and having little interest in actually fooling the hitters. So I have been hoping that Chavez would catch one of his games to see if that might make a difference. Tonight Chavez is catching, so I manage to get this post up before the game. My comment won’t be hindsight if it goes well, though more likely I will look like an idiot by the end of the first inning if Snell throws his usual 30 pitches.
by basmati on Aug 14, 2008 6:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't think so
I had read (don’t remember where) that unlike Lazybones Tracy, JR calls all of the pitches from the dugout. So I don’t believe that the catchers have anything to do with calling the game.
If this is true, the only variable between catchers on balls and strikes calls would be their ability to “frame” the pitches. But I don’t even think that framing the pitch is universally recognized, beyond Tim McCarver, Joe Buck and Eric Karros, as something that actually has been proven to affect an umpire’s judgment.
by WstCstBucco on Aug 14, 2008 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
boxscore
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/boxscore?gid=280814123
note that Yahoo now thinks the two A. LaRoches in the lineup are the same player (before, Andy’s link in boxscores would go to the player index)….
by humbucker on Aug 14, 2008 7:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pearce back in the line-up.
I don’t get why we can’t bat Nate leadoff and Freddy near the bottom though.
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
by UtesFan89 on Aug 14, 2008 7:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wow
a scoreless 1st for Snell. When was the last time that happened?
by northsidenotch on Aug 14, 2008 7:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Now
I’m alright with that type of lead-off hitting
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
by UtesFan89 on Aug 14, 2008 7:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wonder if the Reds announcers have the true story.
George Grande said the Pirates two choices last night were to put Jack on the DL or send Bautista down. Sounds like cutting Rivas or Gomez was never considered.
by Thunder on Aug 14, 2008 7:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gah Nate...
you need JR to move you back to leadoff or something.
This just isn’t working.
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
by UtesFan89 on Aug 14, 2008 7:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Luigi!
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
by UtesFan89 on Aug 14, 2008 7:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Okay...
come on Pearce.
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
by UtesFan89 on Aug 14, 2008 7:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Or
not.
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
by UtesFan89 on Aug 14, 2008 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
F*ck
Lead gone.
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
by UtesFan89 on Aug 14, 2008 7:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
See Pearce
this is why you have to get a hit.
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
by UtesFan89 on Aug 14, 2008 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
High heat
travels a long way, doesn’t it, Ian?
by Thunder on Aug 14, 2008 7:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I get most of the Reds games on FSN cause I live in Indiana
I’ve gotten used to their ridiculousness. I wish this game was on TV here soo bad
by camoseven on Aug 14, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I get
all of them here in Louisville. It sucks
by northsidenotch on Aug 14, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
7-0
Bills,Not sure what the comes out to in US points
by Battlin Bob on Aug 14, 2008 7:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nibble, nibble, nibble
c’mon Ian, just throw the ball over the plate. Oh well, Encarnacion just pulled a Pearce. Out of the inning.
by Thunder on Aug 14, 2008 8:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Reds announcer Brennaman isn't too bad...
I was on a cross country flight that had xm radio, meaning I could listen to a game. A listener e-mailed Brennaman asking him if John Miller from ESPN was to challenge him to a duel, what weapon would he choose and who would win. Brennaman answers he would choose a harpoon and bring the whale down.
He also got into Griffey Jr.s face when Grif was pissed about comments made of him not running out a grounder. Brennaman says something along the lines of I was here long before you got here and I’ll be here long after you are gone!
by ElliottBayBucco on Aug 14, 2008 8:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Woop Steve Pearce walks after 11 pitches
by camoseven on Aug 14, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And on all 11 pitches
he looked like he was swinging flat-footed. All arms on the swings, no legs.
by Thunder on Aug 14, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
F#!$%ing Steelers
One channel isn’t enough, huh??? :shakesfist:
by matskralc on Aug 14, 2008 8:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If i had direct tv
i would be pissed right now.. Live in Md,and have to listen to the Steelers, no Buccos info, Other then here
by Battlin Bob on Aug 14, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not even
getting the Steelers. Philly?
Rather watch Olympic badminton.
(actually, I like
,/B> badminton)
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST
by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 14, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just got in
doesn’t look like Snell is doing TOO bad?
Anyone watching?
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST
by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 14, 2008 8:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A normal Snell start
nibble here, nibble there, gopher ball to someone that shouldn’t hit one. And WAY too many pitches.
by Thunder on Aug 14, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Business
as usual.
Not throwing inside, is he?
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST
by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 14, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had to.
I didn’t expect any other answer than “no,” though.
——→opening liquor cabinet.
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST
by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 14, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
AUGH
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST
by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 14, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Smell only gave up 1 run
incredible
Welp...
by phillybucco on Aug 14, 2008 8:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Seriously, 90 pitches and 5 walks through 5 innings
and just ONE run! Thats luck right there
by camoseven on Aug 14, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
93 pitches in 5 innings for Snell
that was 8 innings worth for Maholm last night.
by Thunder on Aug 14, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ergo
Maholm > Snell.
Do you think he’ll be fighting for a rotation spot come Spring?
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST
by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 14, 2008 8:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He keeps this crap up
and he will be battling for a roster spot.
by Thunder on Aug 14, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's lucky we're playing
the Reds.. any other team, we’re getting drilled
by Battlin Bob on Aug 14, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah
the Reds are pretty terrible
by northsidenotch on Aug 14, 2008 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gameday
says, in play, no out – and flied to right 1 out?
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST
by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 14, 2008 8:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well
wilson flew out to right, moved sanchez to third. then mclouth struckout, and adam laroche just walked
by northsidenotch on Aug 14, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw
the K & walk, and even that it was corrected….but sheeesh.
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST
by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 14, 2008 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you can blame my friend for that
I know the guy who does all of that at PNC Park. Pretty cool job, though, and all the free food and drinks he wants.
by northsidenotch on Aug 14, 2008 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
John Wehner
enjoys such luxuries in the PNC All You Can Eat Seats… dude is always shoveling nachos into his gaping maw when they show him on TV
Welp...
by phillybucco on Aug 14, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well -
tell your friend to get his sh*t together – doesn’t he know that hundreds of goobers are depending on him?
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST
by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 14, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ETA:
Maybe not thousands,
but in particular one fat alcoholic Pirate fan on the North side of Chicago…
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST
by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 14, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and then
give one up.
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST
by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 14, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Snell
Some guys just can’t handle success.
by WstCstBucco on Aug 14, 2008 9:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This
counts as a QS, though, doesn’t it?
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST
by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 14, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't matter
because tonight, only ONE THING MATTERS…
Welp...
by phillybucco on Aug 14, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Methinks
phillybucco has been hittin’ the Stroh’s in anticipation of Ridin’ the Storm Out
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST
by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 14, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't fight this feeling, my friend...
I can’t fight this feeling…
Welp...
by phillybucco on Aug 14, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll bet you
heard it from a friend who
heard it from a friend who…
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST
by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 14, 2008 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't fight this feeling
I think I hate Snell — quality start or no.
It’ll be nice to see him go to the bullpen after September 1 and see if Gorzo and/or Mr. Wonderful can pick up his slack.
by WstCstBucco on Aug 14, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
2 men on, no outs, McLouth batting
This looks promising
by camoseven on Aug 14, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
McLouth
keeps trying for that bunt single in pressure cooker at bats. Got it — this time!
by WstCstBucco on Aug 14, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sacks full
for Mario…
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST
by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 14, 2008 9:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and Luigi...
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST
by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 14, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's hope he
can rescue the princess, here…
…and by princess, I mean the team…
Welp...
by phillybucco on Aug 14, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bah.
Bowser wins again… cmon Weegee!
Welp...
by phillybucco on Aug 14, 2008 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST
by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 14, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hehe
I’m gonna keep on loving’ youuuuu
Welp...
by phillybucco on Aug 14, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mario down
Oh the humanity. Back to “Black Hole” for you!
Now it’s Luigi’s turn
by WstCstBucco on Aug 14, 2008 9:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yahoo's boxscore is even more screwy than before
says there are just 6 batters in the Bucs’ lineup (no pitchers in the batting order, no Chavez, and only one LaRoche)
by humbucker on Aug 14, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
OT Post
Mendenhall guts it out for the TD inside the 10.
by WstCstBucco on Aug 14, 2008 9:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LaRoche Bros
I’m sure they’re not the most popular siblings at PNC Park right now.
by EStreet on Aug 14, 2008 9:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Way to turn a smile upside down guys
Next time don’t forget the power ups.
by WstCstBucco on Aug 14, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bases loaded, no outs
GAH.
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST
by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 14, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sean Burnett has really put it together recently
by camoseven on Aug 14, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Now if he could just put his hat on straight...
Welp...
by phillybucco on Aug 14, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who cares about his hat as long as he pitches well.
by camoseven on Aug 14, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a hot-button issue around here :P
Welp...
by phillybucco on Aug 14, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do.
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST
by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 14, 2008 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why? It's just a hat.
I don’t get why people complain about anyone who wears their hat crooked
by camoseven on Aug 14, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
cocktails is a crumedgeon
DAMN KIDS STAY OFF MY LAWN! shakes cane
Welp...
by phillybucco on Aug 14, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but I'm gonna
keeeeeep on lovin’ youuuuuuuuuuuu….
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST
by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 14, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Power ballads
the ONLY music worth being called music…
Welp...
by phillybucco on Aug 14, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude,
now I know
you’ve been hittin’ the Stroh’s.
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST
by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 14, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just
don’t like it?
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST
by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 14, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dickerson
the new Bucco killer?
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
by UtesFan89 on Aug 14, 2008 9:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lame-o
The team doesn’t deserve a high-class act like ’wagon after this game.
Welp...
by phillybucco on Aug 14, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
welp
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST
by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 14, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Welp, indeed.
Time to finish this case of Schlitz… later :D
Welp...
by phillybucco on Aug 14, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chavez ...
is an excellent receiver. He makes receiving and handling pitchers look effortless,
On the other hand, Doumit looks like he wants to pick a fight with every ball that passes the batter.
by thegunner on Aug 14, 2008 10:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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