A Couple Thoughts
-P- The Pirates spent much of Monday's game, which they won 5-2, getting played like a fiddle by John Maine and generally looking like they'd never seen a changeup before, but one thing they did well was to rack up a number of epic plate appearances, which ultimately allowed them four innings against the Mets' bad bullpen. Around the time Moneyball came out, people used to say that one benefit to having patient hitters was that they drove starting pitchers out of games early and allowed hitters to tee off against mediocre relief pitching. Nobody really talks about that anymore, and probably for good reason--the difference between the number of pitches a very patient lineup takes as compared to the average isn't so huge--but that's exactly what the Pirates did on Monday.
-P- Even though some of the comments from the Pirates' ownership and management are pretty ridiculous, I enjoyed this article. Here's a particularly interesting tidbit:
The Pirates spent a team-record $9,780,500 in signing 32 of 50 picks, five more than last year. That total included Alvarez's $6 million -- divided in payments of $3 million this year and next -- but not extras such as vouchers for college education. The total, as per MLB guidelines for computation, ranked second only to the Kansas City Royals. Baseball America reported that the Boston Red Sox will exceed $10 million in bonuses, which would be a record for any team, but there was no independent confirmation.
That the Pirates outspent nearly everyone may initially seem shocking, but it actually had to be this way. Pedro Alvarez's bonus accounts for well over half the Pirates' total expenditures, and the only way you have to pay six million dollars to a single player is if you pick really early in the draft. The way you pick early in the draft is to stink, and the most common ways you come to stink are to fail to spend your money or fail to spend it well.
If the Pirates hadn't spent a lot in this draft relative to other teams, it would've been a grotesque failure on their part--either they would have failed to sign Alvarez, or they would have skimped on late-round picks and thus failed to address the lack of prospect depth that has been such an important cause of their problems in the first place.
The Pirates' big spending this year is a result of a turning point: until late last year they didn't care about winning, and now they care. They'll spend big next year too, and perhaps the year after that, but after that they're probably going to start winning, and then they won't be paying six million dollar bonuses to first round draft picks anymore.
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It's still a lot
even if you subtract out Alvarez. Last year the Pirates spend $4.2M on the draft and signed all of their top ten. $2.475M went to Moskos, so a little over $1.7M went to the other picks. This year they spent over $3.7M on picks other than Alvarez, nearly as much as they spent on the entire draft last year. And this year they didn’t sign their second and tenth picks.
by WTM on Aug 19, 2008 7:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Heh.
Yeah, I thought the same thing when I saw somebody write that they had outspent even the Yankees. The Yankees pcked 28th, not second, and didn’t sign their first-rounder. Apples don’t equal oranges.
by bucdaddy on Aug 19, 2008 9:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Pirates could have been more aggressive than they were
And Coonington could have been more successful in signing picks then they were. Since the Pirates no longer employed McClatcyfield’s rent a crappy vet strategy, that alone would have reinforced a commitment to the amateur player budget. Unfortunately, the organization had to waste money paying Littlefield, Tracy and Morris. That money should be available next summer.
Steve Z
by steve_z on Aug 19, 2008 11:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
holy crap
they’re probably going to start winning
charlie, i can’t remember you ever saying something like that. it’s been a long decade and a half, eh?
by johnnycuff on Aug 19, 2008 11:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cold water
Eddie Crow made an good point on ESPN 1250 (Pittsburgh) yesterday when he said that the Bucs are getting all sorts of accolades for doing what they should have beend doing all along.
In other words, we are ecstatic because we are comparing the recent events to the team’s habits over the past 15 years. For other teams, this is business as usual. Fans and management/ownership need to be careful not to get to proud of what has transpired because while it is worlds better than the crap we’ve had since 1992, it still isn’t overly extraordinary.
All that said, I am still pretty damn psyched.
Good day.
by Uncle Nate on Aug 19, 2008 12:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That's a great point
Just because we made good moves, doesn’t mean LaRouche, Morris, and Tabata couldn’t end up as busts. Going from a shithouse minor league system to an average one is much easier than going from an average one to a great one. Still, average is a big improvement.
by BadMaafala on Aug 19, 2008 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's all relative
i don’t think it’s a bad thing to be excited that our franchise is headed in the right direction given where we’re coming from.
that said, i of course realize that we’re not guaranteed success. i look forward to days where i get to complain that we don’t have say, an adequate 4th starter or that we only won 85 games instead of 90.
by johnnycuff on Aug 19, 2008 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those days
when you cease to have a “backup team” like the Twins or As.
by DITO on Aug 19, 2008 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like the other responses say,
you do make a good point. But it should be noted that, at least in my opinion, the trades and the draft weren’t merely “what should have been done,” they were actually quite good.
Theres always wishful thinking (remember those Kemp rumors), but NH actually didn’t leave much room for improvement—he did just about as well as you would expect any GM in baseball to do.
by DITO on Aug 19, 2008 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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