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Pirates vs. Cardinals, 19 August 2008

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Pittsburgh Pirates @ St. Louis Cardinals


Ian Snell vs. Braden Looper, 8:15 PM.

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I heard down here in TX

 on the radio the rangers were saying that they were looking to trade in the off season for Zach Duke. The only thing they mentioned on offering was Marlon Byrd and maybe if others were involved German Duran.

Being from Texas I have seen these guys play a lot and Duran a lot in AA. all I can say is I hope they don’t try and Get Byrd, though he might be swinging a bat now he is just a horrible player that makes some of the dumbest moves ever. He is renowned for making plays that you would yell at a little league player for making. Poor defensive decisions and many many bad ones on the base pads. In TX we wonder why anyone would pay him money to play.

Duran however is a good strong bat and one of the best defensive 2B I have seen play in the Texas League. Though right now the rangers have been forcing him to Play 3B because of Kinsler hold that spot down.

Just wanted to know if this was just Stupid Ranger talk or if you all have heard some validity to it

10 Quality Starts in a row/Aug. 08 - BUT now we can't hit:(

by .500 Please on Aug 19, 2008 6:44 PM EDT   0 recs

the Rangers might be able to get Duke for free, if they're patient.

if he keeps pitching BP to NL hitters, the Pirates might DFA or non-tender Duke….

by humbucker on Aug 19, 2008 7:01 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I can't imagine any team

wanting Zach Duke. His opponents BA would be over .400 in the AL.

by Hitman Easler on Aug 19, 2008 7:07 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Not heard anything

I’ve never heard anything about that. Don’t know how Byrd would fit in up here with the abundance of outfielders.

Not sure why they would want Duke in the first place.

I made most of my life decisions at a Foghat concert... I stand by them.

by Chester J Lampwick on Aug 19, 2008 7:07 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

If we trade him

we should trade him to an NL Central team. That way we get to hit off him.

North Side Notch

by northsidenotch on Aug 19, 2008 7:09 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree ... and we should extend his contract ...

contingent upon him staying in the NL central

by Pirate in Ole VA on Aug 19, 2008 8:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

If the return is significant...

Duke will be a Ranger for 2008. I don’t believe there is any player on the PBC’s 25 man roster that is ‘untouchable’. That being said, there hasn’t been any word in regards to what you have heard in this part of the internet.

by ElliottBayBucco on Aug 19, 2008 7:12 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I know Duke isn't much

but have you seen the Ranger’s Staff

The Rangers Radio guys like to talk a lot. You would think they are in the World series the way they talk down here……..and Astros fans OMG have to be the dumbest people on earth, so unrealistic….they have signs here counting the magic number to get the Wild Card.. Its sad is what it is

10 Quality Starts in a row/Aug. 08 - BUT now we can't hit:(

by .500 Please on Aug 19, 2008 7:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Duke

I too am from the Dallas area and I’v never actually heard any of this talk, although I certainly believe you. I guess Duke sort of gets groundballs, so if i squint alot I can almost see why the Rangers would want to take a flier on him, but not if they have to give something up, least of all an actual prospect such as Duran.

Where are you from exactly? I live in the DFW area, Coppell actually, although I’m away for school now.

by baseballgg24 on Aug 19, 2008 7:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I am From the San Antonio area(Bandera)

but I am at school right now in Corpus Christi.

The Rangers are known for trading prospects away for nothing….like Danks for McCarthey(as he even thrown a pitch for Texas in the last two years they have had him?)

10 Quality Starts in a row/Aug. 08 - BUT now we can't hit:(

by .500 Please on Aug 19, 2008 7:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Also

NY-Penn League All-Star game is tonight. Chase D’Arnaud and Jeremy Farrell are on the NL team. However, neither are starting.

North Side Notch

by northsidenotch on Aug 19, 2008 7:09 PM EDT   0 recs

Continuing a Pirates tradition in All-Star games in 2008...

let’s up they make the most of the at-bats they get tonight. Good luck, D’Arnaud & Farrell!

by ElliottBayBucco on Aug 19, 2008 7:15 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Lineup

1. N Morgan, CF
2. J Wilson, SS
3. R Doumit, C
4. A LaRoche, 1B
5. J Michaels, LF
6. A LaRoche, 3B
7. S Pearce, RF
8. L Rivas, 2B
9. I Snell, P

I made most of my life decisions at a Foghat concert... I stand by them.

by Chester J Lampwick on Aug 19, 2008 7:22 PM EDT   0 recs

That lineup....

well, you will be able to knock me over with a feather if we win this game tonight. (Crap lineup + Snell=auto loss)

by Hitman Easler on Aug 19, 2008 7:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

This is one of those nights where

the Pirates will either get shutout, or score about a dozen runs. Notice that I didn’t say anything about how many runs we will give up.

by Thunder on Aug 19, 2008 7:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I would bet on the former...

Sad thing is, I used to look forward to Snell starts……his rapid descent from promising young gun to possible middle relief has been both stunning and depressing.

by Hitman Easler on Aug 19, 2008 8:09 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Cards Lineup

1. S Schumaker, CF
2. R Ankiel, LF
3. A Pujols, 1B
4. T Glaus, 3B
5. R Ludwick, RF
6. F Lopez, 2B
7. Y Molina, C
8. B Looper, P
9. C Izturis, SS

I made most of my life decisions at a Foghat concert... I stand by them.

by Chester J Lampwick on Aug 19, 2008 7:23 PM EDT   0 recs

I am scared to see which Snell will show up

i think i am going to Spackle my bathroom instead

10 Quality Starts in a row/Aug. 08 - BUT now we can't hit:(

by .500 Please on Aug 19, 2008 7:31 PM EDT   0 recs

McLouth?

Didn’t he just get a rest a few days ago? This is like September 2007 redux.

by shayborg on Aug 19, 2008 8:18 PM EDT   0 recs

Ah, good to know.

Thanks to you and DK.

by shayborg on Aug 19, 2008 8:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

or he is just depressed because Adam LaRouche's BA has caught up to his

10 Quality Starts in a row/Aug. 08 - BUT now we can't hit:(

by .500 Please on Aug 19, 2008 8:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Not relevant today

but there was something in the PG or on Dejan’s that he was going to get a lot less playing time in September (rest reasons, I guess).

Does that mean a lot more of Morgan?

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Aug 19, 2008 8:54 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Doumit = beast

1-0 Bucs as Looper is doing his best Snell impression.

by shayborg on Aug 19, 2008 8:23 PM EDT   0 recs

No shutout Thunder

may your dozen runs prediction come true.

by Hitman Easler on Aug 19, 2008 8:26 PM EDT   0 recs

Looper has usually

been good against us, no?

Even LaRoche’s flyout was deep (per Gameday)

Brian from Raise the Jolly Roger!

by Raise the Jolly Roger on Aug 19, 2008 8:28 PM EDT   0 recs

Little Roach

Not impressed so far.

by Hitman Easler on Aug 19, 2008 8:29 PM EDT   0 recs

Ya I am not pleased

he should be dealt when better options are available

10 Quality Starts in a row/Aug. 08 - BUT now we can't hit:(

by .500 Please on Aug 19, 2008 8:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Terrible!

Trade him now! Awful deal!

Brian from Raise the Jolly Roger!

by Raise the Jolly Roger on Aug 19, 2008 8:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Well

He has had only 44 AB…that’s pretty limited to look at stats, but in those ABs he has .372 SLG and .672 OPS, only marginally worse than Bautista’s .404/.729. Give him time. Better he play like this now then next year when the team might actually be a little more decent.

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on Aug 19, 2008 8:37 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

and that's with Bautista's stats

having 60 more points of BA in them.

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on Aug 19, 2008 8:39 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Hahahaha come on, 13 games.

You’re basing your opinion of him on 13 games! 43 at bats! 195 TOTAL major league at bats!

Get a clue or GTFO

by camoseven on Aug 19, 2008 8:36 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Not even close to being ready to give up on him...

just saying, he has been less than impressive so far.

by Hitman Easler on Aug 19, 2008 8:39 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

ditto

10 Quality Starts in a row/Aug. 08 - BUT now we can't hit:(

by .500 Please on Aug 19, 2008 8:51 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Get out the pins and needles!

Rolaids, liquor … Snell pitching.

by Pirate in Ole VA on Aug 19, 2008 8:30 PM EDT   0 recs

Snell defeats Pujols!

This is the first time in years, no?

by shayborg on Aug 19, 2008 8:36 PM EDT   0 recs

Snell has faced Pujols more than any other batter, 33 PA

Career: .444/.545/.963
2008: .273/.385/.273

So he’s been relatively good against him this year (in 13 PA). Also note that these stats don’t include tonight.

by camoseven on Aug 19, 2008 8:41 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

OMG

no runs in first inning…is that two games in a row? Three even?

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on Aug 19, 2008 8:39 PM EDT   0 recs

Jose Tabata

2-3 with a run. Romak 1-2 with a 3-R HR

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on Aug 19, 2008 8:42 PM EDT   0 recs

Romak

hopefully is fully out of his funk…that’s 4 HR in his last 4

North Side Notch

by northsidenotch on Aug 19, 2008 9:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Snell's looking good!

I hope I didn’t jinx him…

by shayborg on Aug 19, 2008 8:48 PM EDT   0 recs

a concise

well pitched inning, although Ludwick crushed a flyball.

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on Aug 19, 2008 8:50 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

They were pretty routine

I think Gameday has a tendency to exaggerate the depth of fly balls.

by shayborg on Aug 19, 2008 8:51 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i see

i was also watching gameday

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on Aug 19, 2008 8:52 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Doumit

is the man, man

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on Aug 19, 2008 8:55 PM EDT   0 recs

Olehndorf

had 5.0 IP, 4 H, 2 ER, 5/1 K/BB but milb.com hasn’t updated for about 30 minutes

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on Aug 19, 2008 8:58 PM EDT   0 recs

there are articles on the Rangers website

that talk about acquiring him in the off season

10 Quality Starts in a row/Aug. 08 - BUT now we can't hit:(

by .500 Please on Aug 19, 2008 9:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

3 scoreless for Ian

I really hope he can come around

North Side Notch

by northsidenotch on Aug 19, 2008 9:07 PM EDT   0 recs

alright

good luck Ian, Pirates

see you all later

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on Aug 19, 2008 9:11 PM EDT   0 recs

Snell: 2 Pujols: 0

Strikes him out on a slider. Wow…

by shayborg on Aug 19, 2008 9:17 PM EDT   0 recs

Uh

dare I say it………Ian looks very sharp tonight.

by Hitman Easler on Aug 19, 2008 9:19 PM EDT   0 recs

I won't say it directly...

but yes, there is something unexpected going on out there tonight…

Welp...

by phillybucco on Aug 19, 2008 9:20 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Caveat...

the motherscratcher still will not pitch inside. @#$%^&*

by Hitman Easler on Aug 19, 2008 9:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Dear Neal and JR

The novelty act(ex-hockey player turned into MLB player) is played now. So played.

by Hitman Easler on Aug 19, 2008 9:28 PM EDT   0 recs

Big inning for Ian here

We lead after the 6th, we win…..yes, I am Nostradomus.

by Hitman Easler on Aug 19, 2008 9:41 PM EDT   0 recs

Ian kinda got jobbed on the 2-0 pitch there...

looked like a strike to me…

Welp...

by phillybucco on Aug 19, 2008 9:43 PM EDT   0 recs

But made up for it

because that guy just swung at an obvious ball 4 :D

Welp...

by phillybucco on Aug 19, 2008 9:44 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

His slider must be incredible today

The Cards are swinging at it a foot off the plate.

by shayborg on Aug 19, 2008 9:44 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It is

it’s not quite “Lidge-y” but it’s still pretty filthy

Welp...

by phillybucco on Aug 19, 2008 9:46 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

see?

I compliment him and they get a hit. I’ll shut up now :X

Welp...

by phillybucco on Aug 19, 2008 9:46 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

actually

a lot of these balls are very borderline… At least he’s not missing the zone horribly like he usually does :D

I’m trying to be optimistic and positive without actually saying anything good because I don’t want to jinx him.

Welp...

by phillybucco on Aug 19, 2008 9:45 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Wait, what?

I just got home and popped up Gameday – is this Snell pitching?

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 19, 2008 9:44 PM EDT   0 recs

Pujols just singled

So yes, I’d say it is Snell.

by shayborg on Aug 19, 2008 9:46 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Evidently...

the 2008 Snell must be in the shop for adjustments…and they brought out the 2007 edition.

by Thunder on Aug 19, 2008 9:47 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I knew it had to be

something like that… I’m only on my first, er, second cocktail.

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 19, 2008 9:49 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Snell!

1 BB, 8 Ks through 6. Nice.

by shayborg on Aug 19, 2008 9:49 PM EDT   0 recs

Hoooo

Another K… I wonder if the infusion of new pitching has kinda scared his head on straight

Welp...

by phillybucco on Aug 19, 2008 9:49 PM EDT   0 recs

Ian is dealing

His slider is nasty tonight. But……….he still will not pitch inside. He needs that to keep hitters honest when his slider is not on.

by Hitman Easler on Aug 19, 2008 9:50 PM EDT   0 recs

Unfortuately

Looper is sharp so far tonight, too

Welp...

by phillybucco on Aug 19, 2008 9:52 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Has anyone noticed

Snell’s BA is higher than Nyjer’s?

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 19, 2008 9:53 PM EDT   0 recs

Luigi's

getting close…

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 19, 2008 9:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

PIcked up Looper in fantasy because I really need wins. I figured it was an automatic one against Snell. Well, I always put the Pirates ahead of my fantasy team, so I’m happy. But I’m pretty shocked at the Snell performance.

by EStreet on Aug 19, 2008 9:53 PM EDT   0 recs

Balk :D

and it wasn’t on us for a change

Welp...

by phillybucco on Aug 19, 2008 9:55 PM EDT   0 recs

Blah

Welp...

by phillybucco on Aug 19, 2008 9:57 PM EDT   0 recs

86 pitches, 57 strikes

After seven innings. I’m on vacation so I’m not watching the game. Is this really Snell?

by EStreet on Aug 19, 2008 10:00 PM EDT   0 recs

Whoops

that’s only after six, my bad

by EStreet on Aug 19, 2008 10:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Who IS this guy,

and what has he done with our dear Ian Snell?

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 19, 2008 10:01 PM EDT   0 recs