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Pirates vs. Cubs, 2 August 2008

Pittsburgh Pirates at Chicago Cubs, Aug 2, 2008 1:05 PM EDT


Paul Maholm vs. Ted Lilly, 1:05.

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Today's bizarro lineup

1. Luis Rivas 2B.
2. Jack Wilson SS.
3. Nate McLouth CF.
4. Ryan Doumit C.
5. Andy LaRoche 3B.
6. Steve Pearce RF.
7. Brendan Moss RF.
8. Chris Gomez 1B.
9. Maholm P

Gomez in because of a lefty on the mound.

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Aug 2, 2008 12:54 PM EDT reply actions  

BTW, Pearce is LF

DK messed that up, because I copy/pasted directly from p-g.com

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Aug 2, 2008 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oops

messed it up again

Pearce is RF, Moss is LF. Argh.

I’ll refrain from doing the lineup ever again :P

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Aug 2, 2008 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also

JBay was awesome in his debut in Beantown. I miss him :(

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Aug 2, 2008 12:58 PM EDT reply actions  

That was great

They already love him, as they should

by Raise the Jolly Roger on Aug 2, 2008 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah man

good stuff…first AB walk, triples in the 12th and gets the winning run.

He’s going to have some “monster” numbers by the end of the year.

by poorboywilly on Aug 2, 2008 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hope we win this game

Zambrano pitching tomorrow vs Schizo I believe

by Bad Andy on Aug 2, 2008 1:00 PM EDT reply actions  

3 fly-outs

at least they’re making contact, I guess…

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Aug 2, 2008 1:14 PM EDT reply actions  

11 pitches

8 balls

Zero command so far

by Bad Andy on Aug 2, 2008 1:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Geez...

We’re in trouble…

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Aug 2, 2008 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Euro-friendly game times at Wrigley.

Purely selfish, but I wish more teams would chose to play games in the afternoon. This is the first time this season I can catch a full weekend series without staying awake until stupid-o-clock.

by RDV across the sea on Aug 2, 2008 1:21 PM EDT reply actions  

According to Greg Brown

Maholm has the 2nd best ERA among NL lefties since May 31st

Now if Nutting can just sign a free agent ace next winter or trade for one.

by Bad Andy on Aug 2, 2008 1:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Sweet

Lead-off double for Doumit.

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Aug 2, 2008 1:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Probably not

if the way the rest of our team bunts is an indication…

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Aug 2, 2008 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dammit

Dammit, dammit, dammit

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Aug 2, 2008 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Rivas should be DFA'd

once Adam is off the DL next weekend.

by Bad Andy on Aug 2, 2008 1:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Can Minky play 2nd?

Just wonderin’...

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Aug 2, 2008 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shortstop cover?

Freddy’s not healthy and Gomez has proved he can’t play SS anymore.

by RDV across the sea on Aug 2, 2008 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boo

We’re gonna give it right back

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Aug 2, 2008 1:43 PM EDT reply actions  

does everyone

hate pearce already? Boy, that poor guy sure had a short leash

by poorboywilly on Aug 2, 2008 1:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Steve Pearce-

82 official ABs so far in the bigs, no HRs.

I guess keeping Xavier Nady around for the first half or so of this season was a good idea for the team`s future.

I hope Pearce hits-he obviously needs more time to prove whether he can or not-but I`m beginning to think that the guys in charge now understand his limitations a lot better than any of us do. He needed work on his defense in the minors to become a competent OF, and he hasn`t done anything this year to get excited about at AAA or so far in Pittsburgh.

by patthatt on Aug 2, 2008 1:44 PM EDT reply actions  

I`m not passing judgment,

but what I am doing is saying that he needs to get his act together and start producing. He has his chance the next two months to prove that he can really play in the majors. He shouldn`t get any free passes from criticism.

by patthatt on Aug 2, 2008 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

hopefully

Lilly can put the cap on this one

by poorboywilly on Aug 2, 2008 1:52 PM EDT reply actions  

dang

took a way longer nap than i was hoping to…missed the first 2 innings

by northsidenotch on Aug 2, 2008 1:54 PM EDT reply actions  

i don't understand

how ted lilly strikes out as many batters as he does

by northsidenotch on Aug 2, 2008 1:58 PM EDT reply actions  

doesn't surprise me

One time they had Frazier (1B coach) miked up and Doumit got on 1st. He asked “ok what are we doing here” (as in, like running on a grounder, halfway on a fly, etc) and Doumit goes “no idea”.

by Raise the Jolly Roger on Aug 2, 2008 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't get me wrong though

I love him. Great guy and having heck of a year

by Raise the Jolly Roger on Aug 2, 2008 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know

This Chris Gomez at first base crap REALLY needs to stop.

by matskralc on Aug 2, 2008 2:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Which Cutch?

Surely not the one that can’t hit AAA pitching.

by RDV across the sea on Aug 2, 2008 2:07 PM EDT reply actions  

But why not

let Cutch work out his problems for a while in AAA instead of rushing him? That’s been part of our team’s problem for too long.

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Aug 2, 2008 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's true.

And Pearce is at an age where he needs to be in MLB. Andrew Cutch is still very young for AAA.

by RDV across the sea on Aug 2, 2008 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don`t think Andrew McCutchen

will make it to the majors til next year. He`s got a lot to work on, according to the reports, and his numbers are not good recently.

by patthatt on Aug 2, 2008 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plate appearances...

which include HBP and BB and such.

by Hitman Easler on Aug 2, 2008 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

And right now

he’s about 70 plate appearances short of qualifying. So to qualify…he can’t miss very many games the rest of the season.

by Thunder on Aug 2, 2008 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

3.1 * 162 = 503 PAs

He’s got 286 right now so in the final 52+ games he needs to average 4.17 PAs per game…..with the loss of Bay and Nady plus some occasional appearances by Chavez that will not happen.

by Bad Andy on Aug 2, 2008 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Check that

This Chris Gomez playing crap REALLY has to stop.

by matskralc on Aug 2, 2008 2:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Fu**

Why Gomez instead of Nate Sr?

by Hitman Easler on Aug 2, 2008 2:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Lovely...

double steal. :/

.500 or bust...

by phillybucco on Aug 2, 2008 2:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Nady is back in lineup

for the Yanks. I wonder if he’ll REALLY tweak his quad tonight.

by poorboywilly on Aug 2, 2008 2:25 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah

watching gameday and seeing IN PLAY RUN that was the best outcome on that play

by poorboywilly on Aug 2, 2008 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just wanted to say something...

Hey everyone – Sox fan here. Just wanted to let you guys know that I think everyone in Boston has fallen in love with Jason Bay. He was great in last night’s game – reached base four times in six ABs. Made a very nice sliding catch that saved a run. And then, with that triple he blasted in the 12th, scored the winning run (also scored the only other run in the second inning).

He is basically the complete opposite of Manny and everyone I know loves it. Good defense, smart base-runner, humble, and wants to play the game right. I’m really looking forward to seeing him play more.

Good luck with Hansen and Moss! I think Hansen will do well with a change of scenery and Moss looks like he’s going to be a good player – I was really sad to see him go.

by RedSoxFan596 on Aug 2, 2008 2:31 PM EDT reply actions  

He will strike out in some big situations,

but he will get his big hits, too. He doesn’t compain and he plays hard. Oh yeah, and he is a hell of a hitter.

by DITO on Aug 2, 2008 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey thanks

We were all sad to see Bay go for the same reasons you mention. I for one was glad that he went to the Sox, a team I like, and a place where he will have a really good chance to win big, or at least get noticed by the pundits. When the trade was first made, all the ESPN, SI people said “Bay who? Why did they make this trade?”. They will soon see too.

by poorboywilly on Aug 2, 2008 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm going to miss Bay

but at the same time, Boston is a perfect fit for him. They’ll probably give him an extension and give him the money that he deserves and the money he wouldn’t have gotten from us. I think he will be there for a long time and now that he’s in a city that the national media cares about, I bet he is an All-Star Game starter for quite a few years now.

by northsidenotch on Aug 2, 2008 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

And this may seem ridiculous

but with the way he takes pitches, he could be a good leadoff hitter if Ellsbury continues to struggle. Did Youklis lead off for a while during one of your WS years.

by DITO on Aug 2, 2008 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think in 06

he leadoff a bunch…is that the past-tense? Pronounced “led-off”

by poorboywilly on Aug 2, 2008 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry but

seems ridiculous.

has good speed but K’s too much and don’t want that power leading off

by Raise the Jolly Roger on Aug 2, 2008 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

K's too much??

why does that matter? who cares how the lead off hitter gets out? Leadoff man with power doesn’t matter as much in the AL

by DITO on Aug 2, 2008 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

good luck

You’ll love Bay. He’s no future HOF but is very very good, will get on base, hustle, and hit his HR’s. Very classy and never complains. You might get on him for struggling in the clutch but he comes through enough. Now I’ll be rooting for Boston over the Yankees for sure

by Raise the Jolly Roger on Aug 2, 2008 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I miss Bay

he might be a future HOFer now that he is in the big market

by .500 Please on Aug 2, 2008 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are the Baseball gods against Pittsburgh

is it to much to ask to get two quality starts in a row

by .500 Please on Aug 2, 2008 2:36 PM EDT reply actions  

guess so

he’s really not pitching badly

by poorboywilly on Aug 2, 2008 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

My MLB extra innings won't let me watch it

for some reason Direct TV thinks that it is good to not let people watch saturday afternoon games

by .500 Please on Aug 2, 2008 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the pirates need to start stealing more to try and get in position

with people like Nate not Doumit….

Pirates are last in the league in attempted steals

by .500 Please on Aug 2, 2008 2:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Sorry for the delayed response!

I have a feeling that Tito will keep him near the middle of the lineup. He likes the faster guys on top. Oh and I can’t remember if Youk has ever led off, but I know for a fact he hates it. The one spot he doesn’t like to hit.

I know that Bay won’t always come up with the huge clutch hits. But I feel like his defensive contributions and good baserunning will make up for that.

by RedSoxFan596 on Aug 2, 2008 2:47 PM EDT reply actions  

there might be rumblings about the defense

sometimes it seems like he doesnt go all out on plays that he should. but he makes up for that by playing every day and not making really stupid plays (diving when theres no chance and giving up a triple as a result)

by Raise the Jolly Roger on Aug 2, 2008 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Comeback Kids?

I can’t see the Bucs overcoming early defecits anymore. If they do, it’s a real testament to JR’s ‘play hard’ mentality.

by RDV across the sea on Aug 2, 2008 2:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah.

Best two hitters in the line-up. Like I said, if they do, it’s all about the manager’s attitude.

by RDV across the sea on Aug 2, 2008 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he is a step up from Manny in more ways than one

Manny just angers me. it seems like he is more into showing off than playing the game.

Manny is manny…so dumb

by .500 Please on Aug 2, 2008 2:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Moss should be batting leadoff

instead of 0for3vas and Sanchez or at least bat 2nd

Really the lineup should be

2b Sanchez
LF Moss
CF McLouth
C Doumit
1b Adam
3b Andy
rf Pearce
ss Wilson

by Bad Andy on Aug 2, 2008 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

bautista...

good 2 pinch hit AB’s so far this series…

2 k’s

by northsidenotch on Aug 2, 2008 3:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Rivas

swinging at ball 4

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 2, 2008 3:38 PM EDT reply actions  

offense

did not come through today. Maholm was the only one with a hit with RISP

by northsidenotch on Aug 2, 2008 3:39 PM EDT reply actions  

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