Pirates vs. Diamondbacks, 6 August 2008: You May Want To Tune In
by Charlie Wilmoth on Aug 6, 2008 1:30 PM EDT
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PrintPittsburgh Pirates at Arizona Diamondbacks, Aug 6, 2008 3:40 PM EDT
Jeff Karstens vs. Randy Johnson, 3:40 PM.
UPDATE after six innings: If you're not watching this one, you may want to get to a TV. I will say no more.
UPDATE: Karstens' bid for a perfect game--and no hitter--ends in the eighth.
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This is the most pathetic Pirates lineup I've ever seen
From Dejan:
Pirates’ lineup: 1. Chris Gomez 3B. 2. Mientkiewicz. 3. Freddy Sanchez 2B. 4. Jason Michaels CF. 5. Brandon Moss LF. 6. Steve Pearce RF. 7. Raul Chavez C. 8. Jack Wilson SS. 9. Karstens.
Brian from Raise the Jolly Roger!
by Raise the Jolly Roger on Aug 6, 2008 2:40 PM EDT reply actions
AKA
the “we concede this game” lineup
Jason
The Hanging Curve
From DK
Nate McLouth is getting his first day off since July 4. No kidding. Ryan Doumit off for the first time since July 27. Obviously, John Russell’s plan is to get them back-to-back days off and be fresh for Philadelphia. ... I
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST
Not that this is important but...
The betting line for this game was ridiculous last night. I would imagine it’s even worse with the sad lineup that’s being trotted out there today. I can’t check betting lines from work, but it would be interesting to see.
I guess we'll still have a chance to win if
Krastens and the pen do as well as the last time he pitched though.
That lineup is embarassing, seriously.
Why schedule a day off for several players on the same day? Wouldn’t it make more sense to stagger than so as not to appear like a minor league team. Why would anyone pay to see this team play unless you are a D-Back fan?
by Illinois Pirate Fan on Aug 6, 2008 3:07 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah...
I thought this game wasn’t on TV, but I guess it is now. I was excited to see Karstens pitch and for Minky/Randy part two….but this lineup takes alot of the fun out of it
Brian from Raise the Jolly Roger!
by Raise the Jolly Roger on Aug 6, 2008 3:15 PM EDT reply actions
Gomez leading off.
WTF?
Seriously?
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
Well that was no fun
although the 0-2 pitch was right at Doug’s head….
Brian from Raise the Jolly Roger!
by Raise the Jolly Roger on Aug 6, 2008 3:47 PM EDT reply actions
From the way
it looked on Gameday, Karstens is moving the ball around the plate & zone pretty well.
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST
well...
he nearly just gave up two bombs. The last two outs were flyouts to the track and they were crushed
Brian from Raise the Jolly Roger!
by Raise the Jolly Roger on Aug 6, 2008 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
but
outs, nonetheless…
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST
by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 6, 2008 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Scouting reports
that said this guy is a Flyball pitcher sure weren’t kidding
Brian from Raise the Jolly Roger!
by Raise the Jolly Roger on Aug 6, 2008 4:04 PM EDT reply actions
He's gotten
2 fastball fly-outs, 2 curveball fly-outs, a ground-out and a K.
The scouting report I saw said he used his curveball to force fly-outs (they said weak… not sure how weak these fly-outs have been)... he’s been showing that in the game + plus 2 innings he’s pitched so far.
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
Karstens
He throws harder than I thought … up to 92 in the early going.
It's probably close.
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
Short memories guys
Duke didn’t have one considerably deeper into last night’s game.
Karstens!
First hit of the game.
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
AIIEEE!!!
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST
by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 6, 2008 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
...just kidding, dude.
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST
by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 6, 2008 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
karstens is good so far
2 ks the first time through the order.
That's how many K's he had
all of the last game.
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
Freddy!
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
karstens
pitching well, effeciently
Jason
The Hanging Curve
minimum
batters faced
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST
by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 6, 2008 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
that's why
I phrased it as I did.
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST
by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 6, 2008 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Johnson
only given up 2 hits and no walks himself, but he has pitched 76 through 5
Jason
The Hanging Curve
yeah
not too many pitches either.
they are hitting it off him but it’s been right at everyone. i’m watching on gameday so i don’t know how hard they’re hit.
Pearce
really hasn’t looked well (results wise) since the call up.
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
Spot on comment
The difference in the level of preparation for the ML between Pearce (and everyone else from Indianapolis) and the Yankee, Red Sox and Dodger newbies is staggering.
Hopefully management will spend this winter clearing out the old guard in minor league coaches. The teams minor league coaching is appalling.
I worry about Tabata growing up in this organization. He needs a mentor. Does anyone know if Woody Huyke would be willing to come back and mentor the kid in Altoona or Indianapolis next year?
When you see the pitchers
the Pirates have seen over the past week…I’m surprised a lot more guys aren’t struggling.
from
DK’s blog
One thing about Karstens - and that one thing would be higher than Arizona’s hit total through four innings - that the Pirates probably will like even when he does not pitch well: This kid appears to have no fear. He is throwing all four pitches for strikes, and it appears he could not care less that they are hit hard or not. Just gets outs. A very jarring sight after much of the other pitching all of us have watched this summer.
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST
it was a K
but it was one helluvan at bat
Jason
The Hanging Curve
Even with the bucs
completely out of the playoffs for a while, and having traded the most popular player (in my opinion)
a meaningless early august game can still generate some excitement
go karstens!
nice
some runners on for our fearsome heart-o-the-lineup
Jason
The Hanging Curve
unit batting
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST
by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 6, 2008 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
no
he certainly wasn’t
Jason
The Hanging Curve
San Diego
As an aside…I got a plane ticket to SD today for $240 the last weekend of the season, when the Bucs will be in town. Anyone know where I should stay?
Did you write to me yesterday? I live in SD but I have no idea. I (obviously) don’t stay in hotels there are rarely come downtown unless it’s to see a ballgame. Too touristy. You’ll probably have the easiest time if you stay near a trolley route, so you don’t have to park downtown… although I’m guessing that weekend won’t be a huge problem either way. There are a number of hotels near the stadium because the convention center is also there.
by Charlie Wilmoth on Aug 6, 2008 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, it was today
That helps a ton! I didn’t know where the stadium was in comparison with anything in the city, so it’s good to know there are a lot of hotels by the park.
SD
I live in San Diego, too. The Marriott right next to the stadium is one of the nicest I’ve stayed in and I travel frequently. They have a very cool rooftop bar (“Altitudes”) that looks into the stadium, more or less. Also has a view of the Coronado bridge.
I’m not sure what the parking situation is there, or how much it is per night…but it’s a perfect location.
Hotels in SD
Anything that is in Old Town. If money is no object, the brand new Hard Rock Hotel right x-cross the street from the balpark is your best bet IMHO.
awesome
this is the most excited I’ve been about a Pirates game in a while. Although that comeback against St. Louis earlier this season got me jumping and yelling.
I made most of my life decisions at a Foghat concert... I stand by them.
by Chester J Lampwick on Aug 6, 2008 5:20 PM EDT reply actions
ahahahah
2 hits now for Karstens
Jason
The Hanging Curve
AND PITCH
Brian from Raise the Jolly Roger!
by Raise the Jolly Roger on Aug 6, 2008 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
And Bunt!
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
...
(that’s from the last game we saw him)
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
Gotta love
Doug’s RBI 2B knocking out Randy
Brian from Raise the Jolly Roger!
by Raise the Jolly Roger on Aug 6, 2008 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Eye Chart!
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
Shame the umpire
blew the call on Jack. This could be a really big inning.
I guess
they left Randy out there one inning too long
Jason
The Hanging Curve
Wow
I have not been this excited by a Bucs game since 1997.
How about Todd Ritchie in 2001?
7/13, he lost a no-hitter after 8-1/3. He’d lost the perfect game in the 6th on an Abraham Nunez error.
yeah
and my boss probably thinks i’m staying late because i want to catch up on work. everybody wins!
OK
good luck Pirates! I must be going.
Jason
The Hanging Curve
mlb.com
Has a free live look-in, for those of us at work… in New York
Who was the last Bucco ...
to throw a no-no?
by Pirate in Ole VA on Aug 6, 2008 5:32 PM EDT reply actions
same....
Brian from Raise the Jolly Roger!
by Raise the Jolly Roger on Aug 6, 2008 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Dear god
Gomez…..
Brian from Raise the Jolly Roger!
by Raise the Jolly Roger on Aug 6, 2008 5:35 PM EDT reply actions
Well
that sucks
Brian from Raise the Jolly Roger!
by Raise the Jolly Roger on Aug 6, 2008 5:36 PM EDT reply actions
crap
classy move by the AZ crowd to applaud though
Dang.
That was totally exciting though.
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
Dang.
That was totally exciting though.
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
Lucky that Romero was first pitch swinging
you’d think that if you waited a couple pitches, maybe Karstens gets down and makes a mistake.
Luckily we don’t have to worry about that.
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
too bad
But even still that performance is absolutely nothing to be ashamed, hopefully he can seal it up in 9th for a 1 hitter.
I made most of my life decisions at a Foghat concert... I stand by them.
by Chester J Lampwick on Aug 6, 2008 5:39 PM EDT reply actions
Damn
I was yelling at Gamecast to make the little ball get down. Well, not literally, as I’m at work. More like yelling in my head. Smizik just pressed the delete key on his column about how Karstens is the greatest pitcher ever…
haha
Brian from Raise the Jolly Roger!
by Raise the Jolly Roger on Aug 6, 2008 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
92 pitches
so he probably comes out for the 9th…with 8th hitter up.
wow
that was more exciting that the trade deadline
That second run is big now
Golden Sombrero for Pearce
Brian from Raise the Jolly Roger!
by Raise the Jolly Roger on Aug 6, 2008 5:42 PM EDT reply actions
Agreed.
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
Holy Mother of Pearl
Okay – so I got SLAMMED at work and just pulled up ESPN about 10 minutes ago. Wow, wow, wow. I feel somewhat responsible for jinxing it since I ‘tuned in’ after the 7th. Great, great job by Karstens.
Oh, and 92 pitches? Let him finish it out.
Maybe it's a bit early . . .
. . . to get excited after just two starts, but it looks like we could have something here.
Pearce gets the Golden Sombrero
Moss (Moss-ome?) just misses on it.
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
Oh, look at us
We’re the Yankees, we ripped off the Pirates, gave up nothing for two great players, we’re so awesome…....
now i can still root for Nady and at the same time say HA!
Brian from Raise the Jolly Roger!
by Raise the Jolly Roger on Aug 6, 2008 5:44 PM EDT reply actions
Karma
The timing of the Joba visit to Dr. Andrews and this start by Karstens has to be riling up the Yanks fans. I love it.
Obviously....
I know he wouldn’t have been the replacement…..but you get my drift
Today was the first time
all season, as far as I can remember, that the Pirates were the lead story on mlb.com’s rotating box scores… without involving a trade. :D
.500 or bust...
Lefty
up in the bullpen…couldn’t tell if it was Grabow or Burnett.
Agreed.
That would’ve sucked.
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
Walked him
if you’re JR what do you do?
Brian from Raise the Jolly Roger!
by Raise the Jolly Roger on Aug 6, 2008 5:49 PM EDT reply actions
I think he earned the chance to stick it out
It was a good at-bat and he’s still throwing well
.500 or bust...
leave him in
until the tying run reaches base
Short of a double play
I think this is Karstens’ last batter.
agreed
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST
by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 6, 2008 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
see?
what Thunder said.
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST
by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 6, 2008 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
In 1971
I saw Luke Walker lose a no hitter ine 9th at TRS. Second game of a double header against the Dodgers. Rookie catcher Joe Furgeson(sp?) broke it up IIRC.
YES!
Brian from Raise the Jolly Roger!
by Raise the Jolly Roger on Aug 6, 2008 5:53 PM EDT reply actions
DP!
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
The d-back announcers
are probably the best away announcers I’ve heard all season (not counting the Phillies announcers, which to me aren’t “away” and are also pretty good).
.500 or bust...
Dang.
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
0.00 ERA in 2 starts
Doesnt seem like the back of the rotation starter everyone thought we were getting
Doug!
What a way to end it!!!
Brian from Raise the Jolly Roger!
by Raise the Jolly Roger on Aug 6, 2008 5:56 PM EDT reply actions
Game!
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
Bummed he couldn't pull it off ...
... but, still, what a start to his Pirates’ career.
What an effort
by Karstens!
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
F Yea Karstens! HOW BOUT THEM YANKEE PROSPECTS!
Get Ohlendorf out there..I want to see my boy in action ;)
Believe
he's so bland
in the postgm interview haha
Brian from Raise the Jolly Roger!
by Raise the Jolly Roger on Aug 6, 2008 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
HAHA
“That’s right, brother!”
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST
by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 6, 2008 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
And a complete reversal from his
2 K, 4 (or 5, I don’t remember) BB performance in his first Bucco start.
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
Love it
Brian from Raise the Jolly Roger!
by Raise the Jolly Roger on Aug 6, 2008 5:58 PM EDT reply actions
23 batters retired in a row
and a CG and a SO and facing only 29 batters is a damn fine pitching performance in anyone’s book.
Well...
Tabata has 2 homers 5 RBIs, Ohlendorf is doin well in AAA, and now this. deal looks good so far
Tabata
is currently on a rehabilitation assignment at Rookie League Bradenton for his hamstring injury. Presumably he’ll go to Altoon in a week or so.
I think
Capps and Paulino are there too. Tabata is making Paulino look very bad (not that that’s hard or anything).
Capps is there
Appear to pitch a perfect inning with a K yesterday. Paulino wasn’t in yesterday’s boxscore.
He's pitching for Indy tonight...
against Buffalo and Bryan Bullington.
Very Cool
He really needs to work on his interview skills though, very boring but I’m still glad to have him.
I made most of my life decisions at a Foghat concert... I stand by them.
by Chester J Lampwick on Aug 6, 2008 6:02 PM EDT reply actions
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