Scott Boras Fires Back; Pirates to Promote Luis Cruz
I'm getting a little tired of the Pedro Alvarez saga, but here's some of the latest news:
MLB's stance in the Sept. 10 arbitration hearing will be that [Royals first rounder Eric] Hosmer's agreement was completed after Alvarez. Thus, they will argue that the Pirates, with Coonelly having worked for MLB for a decade, were not granted a special favor with an extension past midnight....
Boras informed the union hours after the deadline of what he saw as a violation by the Pirates, but he did not do so in Hosmer's case because of his stance that the Kansas City deal was reached before the deadline. The union's position will be that MLB officials kept the Royals on hold on the phone, then waited until the Pirates were done to get back to them, just so another team would follow the Pirates and quash the perception of a special favor.
That's an interesting position, and it seems unlikely to fly. A few days ago, the Post-Gazette reported that the Texas Rangers received an extension in 2007 to sign first rounder Julio Borbon, and several sources have at least mentioned the possibility that the Washington Nationals received an extension to talk with 2008 first rounder Aaron Crow, who didn't end up signing. If Major League Baseball gave the Pirates some sort of special favor in allowing them extra time to sign Alvarez, then it must be awfully promiscuous with the special favor. To make this argument credibly, it would seem that the union will need very believable evidence that other teams requested extensions and were denied.
The article linked at the top of this post also reports that it will probably be "two tothree weeks" after the September 10th arbitration hearing before this is resolved. Alvarez wasn't going to suit up for the Pirates or any of their affiliates this season anyway, but this would seem to make it extremely unlikely that they'll be able to send him play to Fall or Winter ball.
Finally, the same article reports that there will likely be several callups today as rosters expand: Brian Bixler, Steve Pearce, Ross Ohlendorf, Craig Hansen, TJ Beam, a catcher (either Ronny Paulino or the newly-acquired Robinzon Diaz), one or more additional pitchers, and Luis Cruz.
Wait, Luis Cruz? I actually had to look him up to make sure I was thinking of the right guy. I was, but this is an odd pick, this year's equivalent of Carlos Maldonado. Maldonado was the career minor leaguer who the Pirates called up when rosters expanded in 2006, for no real reason than to reward him for being a good organizational soldier. Cruz appears to be an awful hitter and he racked up errors as Altoona's second baseman (for whatever that's worth; see the post below this one), but he managed to bat .328 for a month after being promoted to Indianapolis in late July, so for now, he'll be a Pirate. The 40-man roster is full, so someone will be kicked off the island to make room for him.
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doesn't the extension work for both sides?
Boras is close to getting Hosmer & Alvarez signed at a stroke before midnight. The Pirates & Royals ask for an extension & it’s granted. At 15 seconds after midnight, Hosmer verbals or signs, Alvarez follows suit seconds later. Both are faxed or emailed to the Commish’s office by 12:05. Two instant lottery winners start dreaming about their millions. Boras gets his $1.2MM for both signing. Two downtrodden teams get what they hope are future stars. Looks to me like everybody walks away a winner. BTW, I made up the times, but realistically can they be far off?
by ETNBuc on Sep 1, 2008 7:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Luis Cruz
Dejan Kovacevic had said prior to this article on at least a couple occasions in recent months that the organization thinks a lot of Cruz`s development this year-regardless of his error total at Altoona earlier in the season. If they do have some hope for him, then it stands to reason that they want to give him a look in September along with Bixler at 2B and SS in case Wilson is traded, and they probably will dump Rivas anyway.
by patthatt on Sep 1, 2008 10:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I atleast
want to see him and if he can do anything here. Might as well give him a chance.
by northsidenotch on Sep 1, 2008 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I guess. I don’t think it’s terrible or anything, just peculiar.
by Charlie on Sep 1, 2008 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In Case Wilson Is Traded?????
Jack Wilson has been one of the main faces of the franchise for the last several years.
Let’s just drop the “in case” and get on with it.
by thegunner on Sep 1, 2008 12:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
gunner
What is the relation between Jack Wilson being “one of the main faces of the franchise for the last several years,” and the need to “get on” with trading him?
As has been pointed out repeatedly here and elsewhere, the Pirates have been hesitant to trade Wilson because his contract is reasonable over the next two years with the option, and they will not trade him unless they have someone in the organization who can get the job done defensively-which it appears they do not at this point. Some people point to Wilson`s OPS as one reason he is not worth keeping around. I look at his excellent defense and say that a team like the Bucs with such shaky pitching and a number of young candidates for the staff next year, first and foremost, needs a SS who plays top-notch defense. If they can trade Wilson for a sufficient return in the offseason, fine, but only if they are entirely satisfied with what they are get for him.
You and IPF called for trades, trades, trades, but then started complaining over and over about the team`s performance since the moves were made. All informed fans knew they weren`t going to be any good after giving up 2/3 of a very productive OF. And now you just want management to “get on” with it and dump Wilson. Nice thinking, gunner.
by patthatt on Sep 1, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This whole thing....
is beginning to dull the enthusiasm for drafting Alvarez in the first place. Whatever career he might have with the Pirates is starting to feel tainted already. I’m guessing at least that they’ve learned their lesson about dealing with Scott Boras,as well as anyone who chooses him as an agent.
by rissaldar on Sep 1, 2008 2:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cat In The Hat - I Have Not Complained
I totally supported the trades and have not complained.
I was concerned about Lil LaRoche’s non-performance at the ML level with the Dodgers and was very concerned about Hansen’s lack of control. I will be very surprised if LaRoche ever plays at the level of Jose Bautista (which was not a high level) and I hope that somebody (other than Andrews) can do something with Hansen.
Moss played well in limited action in Boston, and he is holding his own in Pittsburgh.
We needed pitchers and we got some decent arms for Nady and Marte. Plus we now have Jose Tabata who, tools-wise, is clearly our number one non-pitching prospect. Nady, Bay and Marte all had to go. I personally do not believe that the Pirates would have won many more games if the three of them had been kept. The Pirates were playing over their heads until the third week of August and the law of averages has simply caught up with them.
They are NOT a good team.
Jack Wilson, regardless of his above average defense, will NEVER play on a winner in Pittsburgh.
The Pirates are bringing up 10 players, but they are not bringing up their two or three best prospects in McCutchen, Tabata and possibly Walker. These are players that Pittsburgh baseball fans want to see NOW and they might sell some tickets for the last home stand. All three will make mistakes, but they deserve some exposure at the big league level in the hope that their development can be accelerated.
And they DON’T have to play everyday. They just need to “experience” the ML environment (even in Pittsburgh!)
I think that you have fallen into the media hype trap in your unwavering support of the new front office. Coonelly and Huntington have said all the right things, they have been better than McClatchy and Littlefield, and even though they have been dubbed as “the best front office in professional sports”, please keep in mind that this came from an owner who may now finally know the difference between a baseball, football and basketball.
The media gave Littlefield a free pass for about five of his six (or was it six of his seven?) years. At some point, if no progress is made, I hope that the media (and you) will start questioning what is going on.
by thegunner on Sep 2, 2008 12:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
McCutchen, Tabata, and Walker
I think the case for not bringing up any of those three is reasonable. Walker plainly isn’t ready, and McCutchen and Tabata would cut into the PT for Moss and Pearce, both of whom we really need to evaluate to see where they fit for ’09.
If Michaels is getting starts over the next month, that’s potentially a legitimate beef.
by Vlad on Sep 2, 2008 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
gunner
"The Pirates are bringing up 10 players, but they are not bringing up their two or three best prospects in McCutchen, Tabata and possibly Walker. These are players that Pittsburgh baseball fans want to see NOW and they might sell some tickets for the last home stand. All three will make mistakes, but they deserve some exposure at the big league level in the hope that their development can be accelerated.
And they DON’T have to play everyday. They just need to "experience" the ML environment (even in Pittsburgh!)"
They don`t need exposure at the big-league level in 2008, gunner. We have had this discussion before, including Vlad very clearly pointing out the risks of rushing players and giving some relevant examples.
The Pirates` front office disagree with you.
Almost everyone at BucsDugout is against your opinion as well.
Let`s risk screwing up their development-especially that of Tabata who is far from being ready for the majors-in order to “sell some tickets for the last home stand.”
Impressive logic, gunner.
“I think that you have fallen into the media hype trap in your unwavering support of the new front office.”
For the upteenth time, gunner, I just want them to have a fair opportunity to clean up the mess left behind by DL, Graham, Creech, McClatchy and others. Once again, almost everyone else at BucsDugout seems to understand this. Why can`t you?
But then again, considering some of the amazing things you`ve said this season, including your love affair with Yoslan Herrera, I guess I shouldn`t be surprised.
by patthatt on Sep 3, 2008 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vlad
I do not disagree with you totally. My point is that these three need to be exposed to the ML atmosphere regardless of how much playing time they get. Maybe they only play 2-3 times a week. The experience is valuable.
I think Moss is going to be fine. I have always been a supporter of Pearce. While he has not crushed the ball and has shown little power, I like his confident approach at the plate (which almost needs to be toned down a little).
I do not see Michaels, Mientk…, Rivas or Gomez back next year. Pirate bloggers have gone a little too gaga over Mientk…. He is a nice player off the bench, but I’m sure that is rah rah antics in Pittsburgh were never apparent with the Yankees or Red Sox. To me, he is a little over the top.
by thegunner on Sep 2, 2008 4:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pirate bloggers have gone a little too gaga over Mientk….
Not me, I hope.
by Charlie on Sep 2, 2008 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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