Pirates vs. Astros, 10 September 2008
by Charlie Wilmoth on Sep 10, 2008 7:15 PM EDT
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Don't get us started, Charlie!
You know how this always turns out!
You must really love Pearce.
Why do you keep implying that JR is benching Hank Aaron?
Steve Pearce
Announcer’s voice: “Steve Pearce. You’ve just hit your first ML home run. What are you going to do?”
Pearce: “I’m going to go to Di . .. that pine bench tonight, sit down and watch Nyjer Morgan run the PBC out of a big inning or 2.”
2009 draft position
We’re up to #4 from #7 a few weeks ago. We’re 4.5 games ahead of (behind?) the Padres and Nats who are tied for the top spot right now and 3.5 ahead of the Mariners. We’re 1.5 games behind the Royals and have opened a pretty decent gap on everyone else.
Nyjer is hitting .297 since his recall
Maybe they’ve been fooled by small sample size? It wouldn’t be the first time.
He has done fine since the recall,,,
Just don’t tell the “Pearce must play” crowd. that.
by Hitman Easler on Sep 10, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Um, I think you kind of missed my point...
A .297 average in a few dozen ABs is much less meaningful than a career of endless failure.
No, I got it
Quote me Pearce’s endless stream of success in the bigs now.
by Hitman Easler on Sep 10, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Success in the minors and failure in the majors > failure everywhere
It’s not that complicated.
Yes, it is apparently that complicated. Just stop banging your head off this wall now. For your own good.
Yeah, I just read through one of the old threads
Jesus Christ. I’ll stay out of it.
Again...
quote me Pearce’s success in majors. I wait patiently for the answer.
by Hitman Easler on Sep 10, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
It certainly
seems that Morgan and Pearce may be platooning…with Pearce getting the short half of the shift. Generally more right handed starting pitchers than left handers…so Pearce isn’t playing as much.
Both of them
are going to Mexico this winter…..link
It also says Pearce will play 1st there…and there’s this:
“In Nyjer’s case, it’s to try and get ready for next year,” Stark said. “In Steve’s case, it’s trying to improve the consistency of his at-bats.”
Brian from Raise the Jolly Roger!
by Raise the Jolly Roger on Sep 10, 2008 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm curious as to what
either of them are going to do in Mexico to give management what they are looking for. I don’t see any goals (mention of things to work on) there for Morgan. And in Pearce’s case…it’s tough to get consistency when you aren’t playing.
Well, at least he’ll get Pearce will play there.
Management’s plan for him, if there is one, is a complete mystery to me.
by Charlie Wilmoth on Sep 10, 2008 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean “at least Pearce will play there.”
by Charlie Wilmoth on Sep 10, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
JR
wants to win games. Nyjer offers him more of a chance for this at this time. Why some on here can’t see that is beyond explanation.
by Hitman Easler on Sep 10, 2008 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I see the Drive For 75 is alive.
Because winning games is completely irrelevant in 2008. I want to win games in 2009, 2010 and onwards. Nyjer Morgan won’t help do that. We don’t know if Steve Pearce will help, and why some on here can’t see that is beyond explanation.
Not only that, but Pearce’s numbers this year are better than Morgan’s. Not sure where Mr. Easler gets the idea that it’s obvious Morgan gives them a better chance to win.
by Charlie Wilmoth on Sep 10, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
How do you know Nyjer will not help?
How do you know Babe Ruth Pearce will help? What in the holy hell makes you think Pearce has potential? A hundred homers in single A?
All I ask is for you Pearce lovers to actually watch the games. Morgan has led to more runs for the PBC, undeniably.\
Once Pearce does the same I willl be on his bandwagon.
by Hitman Easler on Sep 10, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
WooHoo!!!!!!!!!
Minor league numbers make you s superstar!
by Hitman Easler on Sep 10, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
"Morgan has led to more runs for the PBC, undeniably."
Dude, that’s just untrue. I’m not going to bother tracking down Runs Created or VORP, but:
Steve Pearce 2008 in Pittsburgh: .246/.316/.377
Nyjer Morgan 2008 in Pittsburgh: .236/.305/.292
I’m not saying there’s a huge difference, but come ON.
VORP
Pearce: -0.6
Morgan: -5.3
Nyjer Morgan is so bad that his offense has cost us half of a win just by itself this year and he’s only had 119 plate appearances.
http://www.whygavs.com
http://mlb.fanhouse.com
But his grit, hustle,
and ear-to-ear smile can’t be measured in “wins”. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it, spreadsheet boy.
This team is really bad
18 games left and 84 losses already. Can we make 100 losses?
Oh perfect!
Gorzo hurt
Brian from Raise the Jolly Roger!
by Raise the Jolly Roger on Sep 10, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply actions
Looks like just a finger...
If that’s the case it’s not too serious. I hope that’s right.
Charlie and Bloggers
I made a mistake and just posted my thread at the end of the “Matt Wieters Named Minor League Player Of The Year” thread.
It is VERY IMPORTANT that all Bucs Dugout bloggers read this post and act accordingly!!!
I have stayed out of
the pissing contest so far, gunner, but it does seem you’re becoming quite petulant .
Perhaps you could start your own blog?
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST
by cocktailsfor2 on Sep 10, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
EmmaOMG
Was it something I said? What’s the problem? It’s only Pirate baseball!
Hey look!
Nyjer doubles to tie the game!! I can sense the excitement throughout this thread…
Brian from Raise the Jolly Roger!
by Raise the Jolly Roger on Sep 10, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply actions
LOL
It’s like he hears us and is just egging us on.
That's the thing
I think he’s a terrible, terrible baseball player but from what I know and have heard of him, I certainly wouldn’t mind hanging out with the guy.
Yeah, he would definitely be my favorite player if he were any good at all.
by Charlie Wilmoth on Sep 10, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay -
Let’s get ’em here – I have 50MM internet dollars on the Buccos here…
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST
Meanwhile, back at the game
WIll somebody please nudge JR and wake him up. It was time to pull Bautista about 2 batters ago.
There about about 15 pitchers on this roster, right?
I read this,
then switched back to Gameday, and saw it there. Double Gah.
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST
by cocktailsfor2 on Sep 10, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
AMEN TO THAT!!!!
wow. that SUCKS
Brian from Raise the Jolly Roger!
by Raise the Jolly Roger on Sep 10, 2008 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Tonight I am seeing why
all these defensive stats have Nate as an awful CF. He is having a bad night out there
Brian from Raise the Jolly Roger!
by Raise the Jolly Roger on Sep 10, 2008 10:08 PM EDT reply actions
AND.......
my stupid brother happens to have Tejada on his fantasy team…and I’m playing him in the 1st round of the playoffs. GAH!
(Haren/‘Halladay both sucking today hasn’t helped either)
Brian from Raise the Jolly Roger!
by Raise the Jolly Roger on Sep 10, 2008 10:11 PM EDT reply actions
Man
I used to play fantasy baseball to give me something to root for after May. But geez, when it rains it’s pouring on you!
it does make September baseball somewhat meaningful
but yeah….today is rough
Brian from Raise the Jolly Roger!
by Raise the Jolly Roger on Sep 10, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks, Matskaric
My error. The fourth man is Hitman Easler to work with Nyjer on his speed and to help carry his water. My mistake. Thanks for catching it. You should at least be at the AAA or maybe AA level. You are a definite prospect!
Gunner, please reply to specific posts by clicking “reply” underneath them. That way, we can tell what you’re talking about.
by Charlie Wilmoth on Sep 10, 2008 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
In the TAM-BOS game,
JBay up, 2 out, bottom of 10th, winning run on 3rd…and he chops one to ss for the third out.
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST
Nate is still a beast
1-2 pitch from a lefty and he lines it down the left field line for an RBI double. Pirates are within 4…
Mario rescues Princess McLouth
Double high off the wall in left drives in a run.
(Yeah, sorry about that subject.)
Where's Pearce?
He should be pinchhitting for Moss.
Yates is looking really good
97 MPH fastball with a lot of sink, tight 89 MPH slider, and most importantly some sense of the zone…
Dunno, I stopped watching
And the game is over anyway. 7-4 Astros. Bucs gain a game on the Mariners in the Strasburg sweepstakes; the Nats lost and the Padres are losing.
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