Pittsburgh Pirates @ Cincinnati Reds GameThread, Sep 4, 2008 12:35 PM EDT

Pirates vs. Reds, 4 September 2008

by Charlie on Sep 4, 2008 10:30 AM EDT Comment 68 comments

Pittsburgh Pirates at Cincinnati Reds, Sep 4, 2008 12:35 PM EDT

Tom Gorzelanny vs. Josh Fogg, 12:35.

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No Moss v. Fogg?

WTF?

by azibuck on Sep 4, 2008 12:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

yes

moss could probably crush Fogg

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on Sep 4, 2008 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

McLouth CF
Gomez 2B
Derg 1B
McLouth Sr LF
Luigi LaRoche 3B
Pearce RF
CRUZ SS
Cesar Chavez C
Gorzewalky P

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on Sep 4, 2008 12:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

That`s a strange

lineup for the Bucs.

by patthatt on Sep 4, 2008 12:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

at least

andy is playing…if he would have benched him after two good games….

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on Sep 4, 2008 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Pirates vs. Fogg

McLouth 6-11 2B 3 HR BB (My god sir)
Chavez 4-5 3 2B
Derg and Gomez 1-3
Nate Sr 2-2 HR
LarRoche 0-4

not really much experience here besides McLouth

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on Sep 4, 2008 12:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I thought we were going to waste bases loaded, no outs.

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on Sep 4, 2008 12:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

was pointing out “mechanical flaw” in Gorzo, saying it would make it hard to get his pitches down and make them slow breaking. Granted, Chavez was pretty concerned and not only gestured at his shoulder but talked to him during the first two at bats. Funny that he proceeded to sit down the Reds…the announcer sure stop talking about how easy it is to hit his pitches.

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on Sep 4, 2008 1:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

It's early out here

so I just noticed PBC already has scored 3 runs. Phew.

Also confused why Moss (the team’s best hitter lately) is sitting down.

Nice to see Pearce though — and he’s already contributed,

It’s good for my blood pressure to see the Bucs pound Fogg in the first inning — even a AAAA lineup should crush him.

Any chance the ML can just let the PBC play its next 20 games against the Reds? Just asking.

by WstCstBucco on Sep 4, 2008 1:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

hahahahah

Yeah, I don’t see what it’s hurting. The announcer even sounded pleased to sweep San Fran, that’s how bad it’s getting…

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on Sep 4, 2008 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

hanging slider looped into the stands

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on Sep 4, 2008 1:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

is 4

a fair O/U for Fogg’s IP?

charity standing orders

by BadMaafala on Sep 4, 2008 1:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

3.2

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on Sep 4, 2008 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Gomez

looks like a seventh-grade science teacher to me.

by Zadoras on Sep 4, 2008 1:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

that

was CRUSHED

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on Sep 4, 2008 1:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

anyone else have mlb.tv

is it acting up?

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on Sep 4, 2008 1:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Working fine for me

by shayborg on Sep 4, 2008 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

now it's working well again

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on Sep 4, 2008 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

the reds announcers

are criticizing the pirates for playing fogg with the outfield so far in. Lets see he is hitting .095 this year. That’s his fourth double…of his CAREER. .117 career hitter, i’ll play him in too.

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on Sep 4, 2008 1:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

4 IP

looks like a good over-under for Gorzo and his 88 mph fastballs too

by Zadoras on Sep 4, 2008 1:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

wow

that was pretty amazing. Ball (apparently) barely caromed off the foul wall before bouncing out of Pearce’s mitt, then he grabbed with his bare hand in the air

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on Sep 4, 2008 1:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

oh man that's good

fogg hurt himself tagging up, he might be done.

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on Sep 4, 2008 1:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

how many cheap hits have they gotten the last two days?

Seems like a million.

by shayborg on Sep 4, 2008 1:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

that's

embarrasing…votto swung and missed at three straight 89-90mph fastballs

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on Sep 4, 2008 1:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I can't believe it's just 5-2

That inning took forever.

by shayborg on Sep 4, 2008 1:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

i'm guessing

they pinch hit gorzo to spare him the game blowing up in his face?

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on Sep 4, 2008 1:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Hope so!

I’ve remarked that JR seems much more willing to pull a SP in the last few days now that he so many extra spare parts in the bullpen (not that he’s actually using any of the newer guys, except for Capps).

by WstCstBucco on Sep 4, 2008 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

guess with nothing going

he will let Gorzewalky have one more chance…short leash I imagine.

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on Sep 4, 2008 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Some guys just can't stand success

Gorzo so wants to lose this game. His pitch count is actually higher than Fogg’s.

by WstCstBucco on Sep 4, 2008 1:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

only one run

but 30 pitches that inning

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on Sep 4, 2008 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i believe this is called

wildly effective

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on Sep 4, 2008 2:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Just got in

from Long Island (via Baltimore & Columbus, OH)….what’d I miss?

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Sep 4, 2008 2:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Gorzo is terrible

but so are the Reds.

We started fast but can’t get anything else going. Ramirez, I believe, 26-YO Sept callup in the reds bullpen has great changeup.

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on Sep 4, 2008 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

oh yeah

and Fogg fogged up his groin by tagging up on a sac fly that wasn’t even really close

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on Sep 4, 2008 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

looks like

We hit Fogg pretty good, but they’ve been pecking away ever since…

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Sep 4, 2008 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

and that is

crushed

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on Sep 4, 2008 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nate!

Brian from Raise the Jolly Roger!

by Raise the Jolly Roger on Sep 4, 2008 3:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

In play {runs) leading off the inning

you know what that means baby!

Brian from Raise the Jolly Roger!

by Raise the Jolly Roger on Sep 4, 2008 3:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

yeah if I was running gameday

I could’ve posted HR in about 0.2 seconds

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on Sep 4, 2008 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

We're

gonna give ’em back in the bottom half?

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Sep 4, 2008 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

let's see

We’ve got
Yates (lead gone)
Bautista (never know)
Hansen (lead gone)
Grabow (usually good)
TJ Beam (i guess it’s the reds)

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on Sep 4, 2008 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

C) Hansen. Uh-oh.

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Sep 4, 2008 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

nate

did what i’ve been used to from the other side lately—-a soul-crushing, late-inning, go-ahead homie after picking and clawing back to a tie game.

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on Sep 4, 2008 3:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

and now

hansen is doing just what he always does

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on Sep 4, 2008 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

oh bull****

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on Sep 4, 2008 3:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Oh my.

Walk and infield single to pitcher

Brian from Raise the Jolly Roger!

by Raise the Jolly Roger on Sep 4, 2008 3:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Hansen's

Theme song: CLICK HERE

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Sep 4, 2008 3:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

oh god

i’m eating, you can’t do that to me

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on Sep 4, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Operation Shutdown Version 2.0

Can JR just let Hansen sit the rest of September? He makes Josh Fogg look good.

by WstCstBucco on Sep 4, 2008 3:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

You Have To Question Russell ...

even bringing in Hansen to start the inning. The man cannot throw strikes.

by thegunner on Sep 4, 2008 3:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

i guess at this point

Does winning/losing matter? Is evaluation worth more than a game?

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on Sep 4, 2008 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

it had BETTER be

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- HST

by cocktailsfor2 on Sep 4, 2008 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

What more is there to learn this year

about Hansen? The ERA over 8.00 is pretty much says it all.

Maybe Hansen can pitch in late innings where the team is behind by double digits. Bringing him in in the 8th where there is a one run lead is insane.

by WstCstBucco on Sep 4, 2008 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

For sure.

I think better draft position is worth more than wins at this point. I can’t root against the Pirates, but that 10-game losing streak wasn’t exactly crushing my spirit.

by shayborg on Sep 4, 2008 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

reds announcers talking about how they executed "fundamental baseball"

no….hansen just handed them some runs on a platter

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on Sep 4, 2008 3:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Good going JR!!

Way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Guess I don’t have to post now that I thought JR wouldn’t pitch Capps 3 days in a row.

by WstCstBucco on Sep 4, 2008 3:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Russell Has Been Hitting The Cooler Alot Lately

Do you think he has his own personal cooler?

What’s in it?

Maybe a liile TJ “Jim” Beam?

by thegunner on Sep 4, 2008 3:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Now JR decides to manage

What a move — bringing in Nyjer to PH for Luigi. Damn — that’s some fine game management skills being displayed there. Let’s make sure we don’t let Luigi have a chance to continue some clutch hitting he’s shown the last 2 games.

(See THCurve’s post above about this being time for evaluation. What he said.)

by WstCstBucco on Sep 4, 2008 3:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs