Danny Moskos Hit Hard in AFL Appearance
-P- Daniel Moskos got rocked for two runs in an AFL inning Saturday. To his credit, he's stayed in control in the offense-friendly AFL with bunches of strikeouts and grounders. Still, I've read some vague compliments of Moskos from people like Kevin Goldstein recently (subscription required), and while Goldstein's comment was hardly over the top, I have to admit I don't really see anything here yet. Moskos struck out barely more than four and a half batters per nine this year in a league in which he wasn't particularly young. Even accounting for the grounders and for improvement throughout the year, that just isn't enough. (And the solid ERA doesn't predict much without other good stats to back it up.)
To say that he has the requisite hint of upside you get when you take a failed starter and put him in the bullpen is basically true, but still gives him too much credit. Most successful relievers who fit that profile are guys that throw hard but have control issues, or even guys who have success as minor league starters but whose organizations believe are best suited to relief anyway. (I'm thinking here of someone like Jonathan Broxton, who posted excellent numbers as a minor league starter but burst onto the scene as a member of the Dodgers' bullpen, and stayed there.) Moskos doesn't have much of anything--he doesn't have great stuff, or great strikeout rates, or even great control. There aren't even injuries that might explain some of his poor performances, the way there was for Sean Burnett, another former top pick who became an uninspiring lefty reliever. All Moskos has are grounders, and the fact that he's a lefty.
Credit where credit is due, though--he's been very good since August or so. And at least I was able to get through two paragraphs about Moskos without mentioning a certain Orioles catcher.
-P- The Padres have hired Red Sox assistant Jed Hoyer as their new GM. Hoyer interviewed for the Pirates GM job when it was open two years ago, and he inherits a desperate situation in San Diego, so it'll be interesting to see how his GM career parallels that of Neal Huntington.
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ESPN’s Jason Grey was as far from complimentary as you can get after watching Moskos pitch. Here’s his quote via Twitter:
Daniel Moskos struggling to get it over 90 at the AFL with no command, and his delivery is still bad too. #Pirates
On the plus side, he’s thrown out positive comments about the way Tabata’s been hitting twice already, and had good stuff to say about Donnie Veal after an appearance. He also referred to near-Bucco Tanner Scheppers as “Nasty McFilthy”. Scheppers has been a big hit with the scouts in the AFL.
by ElDuce on Oct 26, 2009 2:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hoyer v. Huntington
San Diego may be a mess, but the situation Hoyer is inheriting is not as bad as the one Littlefield left.
by uneasy rider on Oct 26, 2009 11:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think that some of the positive Moskos commentary...
…is simply contrariness for the sake of contrariness on the part of the analysts. They know that taking a controversial position will get them traffic and buzz.
There’s probably also a certain amount of reluctance to admit to error, on the part of the ones who were touting him heavily before the draft.
by Vlad on Oct 26, 2009 12:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cutch is ROY per BA
Which I saw on the PG website.
Good day.
by Uncle Nate on Oct 26, 2009 1:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good for him.
He certainly earned it on his own merits.
by Vlad on Oct 26, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Moskos
I think the BA against Moskos as a starter at Clemson was over .250. Obviously, that was a big warning that DL ignored.
Clearly, he was not going to be a #1 or #2 starter based on his college stats.
I just can’t understand how some scouts used to have him throwing 97. He always looked like Jamie Moyer to me.
I just figured he was injured the first time I saw him throw.
It’s time for him to be moved to the bullpen to see if the Bucs can salvage anything.
by Bernie6666 on Oct 26, 2009 1:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Scouts had him at 97...
…because they were clocking him out of the bullpen, and all pitchers pick up some extra juice in relief. His draft-year scouting report had him at 91-95 when used in the rotation, and in practice, it’s turned out to be a little less than that.
I was, if anything, a little too pessimistic about him before the draft. In addition to pitching terribly, I thought he’d also have hurt himself at least once by now.
by Vlad on Oct 26, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I watched him in a start the day after the Pirates drafted him and he was topping out at 91. Numerous sources at the time also reported he had a “wipeout” 85-MPH slider, and yet when I watched him he wasn’t even throwing a slider, just a curveball-y thing that didn’t get anywhere near 85 MPH. I have no idea what happened there.
by Charlie on Oct 26, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, part of it...
…is that he only had 10 starts his junior year. You have one or two anomalously good games, and it moves the Overton window. Bullington’s another guy whose stuff took a big step forward his junior year – and sometimes when that happens, it steps right back down the next season.
by Vlad on Oct 27, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I live in an SEC area but we do get some ACC games.
I never saw the 95 mph fastball or the 85 “wipeout” slider that was touted either. I thought it was more of a slurve than anything.
I know that he was not that highly viewed within the ACC, certainly not a top five pick.
As for the velocity, I understand that relief pitchers get a few extra mphs. But I just haven’t seen the games where they saw this exceptional velocity.
by Bernie6666 on Oct 27, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why don’t we just call him Kenny Powers and get the whole thing over with?
by NastyNate82 on Oct 26, 2009 2:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If
We step into a time machine and go back to drat day 07, is Weiters really the guy you take? Granted, he is one of the best catching prospects to ever come along, but that first round is filled with big upside guys.
Matt LaPorta, Jarrod Parker, Madison Bumgarner, Jason Heyward, Aaron Poreda, Rick Porcello, Ben Revere….
And if they did take Weiters, then who do they take in this years first round?
I think the most healthy way for Pirate fans at this point is to look forward at the strong trades made recently, the two strong drafts in a row, hope for a lightning strike next year and from 2012 on a strong franchise. Looking back like this at a guy like Moskos can only lead to suicide or becoming a fan of the NBA instead.
by backtocali on Oct 26, 2009 5:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Knowing what we know now...
Heyward or Porcello. If you’re really cynical, you’d take Parker, since he just had TJ surgery and would fit right in. This year…if you’re just talking upside, I guess Matzek or Miller. But I think the strategy NH used this year worked, by taking high-upside guys later. You just HAVE to sign them if thats the case.
by NastyNate82 on Oct 26, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Back in the day, I wanted Heyward.
(Proof)
I’d be willing to stick with that pick now.
by Vlad on Oct 26, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn’t Heyward’s representatives try to scare away all the teams with huge demands except for Atlanta, his hometown? Obviously with hindsight, the Bucs giving him whatever he wanted would have been a great strategy. With a time machine, I’d still rather have drafted Wiethers or Porcello, but Heyward is a close third and would not have been a pick to regret nearly as much as what we ended up with.
Actually, the advantage for Heyward is that it still would have gotten Littlefield fired and we’d also have an elite prospect. Wieters may have saved Littlefield and Creech’s jobs and let them take lefty relievers for the next several years after.
by Adam Reynolds on Oct 27, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Supposedly, yes.
But I would’ve picked him anyway. With that kind of bat, and that athleticism, you just knew he wasn’t going to fail. And while he wanted to be in Atlanta, I don’t think he wanted it enough that he would’ve been willing to go to college instead of signing.
by Vlad on Oct 28, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Moskos
This is a draft where you can essentially look at nearly everyone picked near Moskos and say he’s a much better player.
Yes, I would have taken Wieters. (I’m highly skeptical Tony Sanchez has the bat speed to be a MLB star.)
But even if you pass on Wieters, they had an array of choices.
by Bernie6666 on Oct 27, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meanwhile, in happier news . . .
Perrotto is reporting that the Pirates have dumped Tyler Yates and that Yates has elected free agency. He’s no longer on the 40-man roster at the official site, so it must be true.
by WTM on Oct 26, 2009 5:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I threw up a FanShot about that as well...
…from the article in the Trib.
by Vlad on Oct 26, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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