Has Sabean already given up on Buster Posey after 17 unimpressive big league ABs? I could understand why the Mariners or Rays might want Doumit, but not the Giants.

The only question is when we get max value for him – there’s no rush as such. But he’s a dumb part to hold on to, as he will never contribute to a playoff team in Pittsburgh.

are teams thinking they can get a buy-low deal on 09’ Doumit?

I think this is exactly right. But you know, someone might offer a package that NH thinks os more valuable than the offerer does. And it helps that there’s a fair amount of interest, as it gives NH a bit of leverage – if he thinks that the offering team has a really desirable player just one notch up from their first offer, he has lots of competition to point to.

That said, I’ll be pretty surprised if he’s moved this winter; it’s really hard to believe anyone loves Doumit enough to offer what he’d be worth after a healthy April-June (no guarantee of that, of course, but NH has to consider that Doumit’s baseline value).

Doumit to the Giants makes no sense…..They have Buster Posey and they have said they are going to try and resign Ryan Garko. IF they do trade Doumit to the Giants, the haul wouldn’t be sufficient because the GIants traded their “touchable” good prospects at the deadline last year. This reaks of a Littlefield type trade and I hope they stay away from it.

Doumit to the Rays makes sense because they need a power bat that can catch especially since Dioner (sp) Navarro was not very good this year. If they trade him here I expect a haul of something like Reid Brignac and Justin Ruggiano for Doumit…..which is not a good haul but might be enough to add depth to the middle infield…however with the trade of Iwamura the Rays may not want to gamble the future of their middle infield away so I dont really think the Rays are a possibl suitor.

The one place I could see us making a trade with is the Toronto Blue Jays. Barajas and Barrett are leaving for free agency and the word is that neither Phillips or Arencibia are ready to take over as the starter. I could see us getting a starter like Jesse Litsch or Brad Mills for Doumit. Add Kyle Phillips in the deal and NH would do this in a heart beat.

One place I think is a wild card for Doumit to go is the New York Mets. They need a hitting catcher bad and they need power in their lineup bad. I could see us getting Eddie Kunz or Bobby Parnell in a deal for Doumit. This is ideal for me because both of these guys are going to be good bullpen arms and the Bucs need bullpen arms.

I’d be interested in Sean Rodriguez from the Rays, too. The Rays didn’t want to trade Brignac in the proposed Bay deal, if I remember correctly, but maybe they’d let go of Rodriguez. I’d let Doumit go for Navarro and Rodriguez. Not sure the Rays would want to give up that much, though.

The other team mentioned in the article was the Mariners. That makes a lot of sense. I can see them using some kind of 1B/DH/C rotation with him and whoever they get to play first (they’re trying to re-sign Branyan, as I understand it). I’m not sure we match up in trade, though. They probably don’t want to trade Triunfel or Ackley, and I’m not sure they have anyone else worth parting with Doumit for.

Would it be totally impossible to make a deal work around Doumit for Brignac?

I assume the Bucs would have to add a bit.

I don’t know. Four years of Doumit is about equal to six years of Brignac, probably. Hard to say, though. People still seem to like Brignac even though he stopped hitting at AAA. But his ability to stay healthy and play defense probably evens things out. I’d want a little more for Doumit if I were the Bucs, but I’d probably want a little more for Brignac if I were the Rays.

I think Brignac would be a good pickup…from what I’ve read, I thought the Bucs pushed pretty hard for him last year when they were shopping Bay. Middle infielders are hard to find, and since the Rays are set at the ML level and also have Tim Beckham in the minors, I would think they’d be likely to move Brignac. I haven’t read much about him, but it seems that even though he doesn’t have one standout tool, he does several things fairly well.
I was thinking that to maximize value out of a deal, what would you guys think of them packaging Duke and Doumit? A combination like that might entice quite a few teams, and bring back a pretty good haul.

Since I’m highly ignorant concering ZIPS and some statistics, does it factor in defensive ability or projections at all, or is it mostly just offense? I guess what I’m asking is, some of the stuff I’ve found on Brignac praised his defense…is Walker as good at 3B (or better) than Brignac is at SS?

Giants prospect Angel Villalona has been charged with murder.

Pretty crazy scenario to be in as an organization, and quite a fix for the young man himself… didn’t want particularly to post this as a separate post, since it doesn’t relate to the Bucs, and not much to baseball…