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Pirates Face 40-Man Roster Decisions This Week

40-man rosters have to be set by Friday, so expect some fun stuff to happen this week.

The Bucs currently have 36 players on their 40-man roster. That doesn't include Jose Ascanio and Evan Meek, who will both need to be protected by Friday. The Pirates will also have to decide whether to include a number of minor leaguers, any of whom could be selected in the Rule 5 draft in December if they aren't protected:

Brad Lincoln, Gorkys Hernandez, Bryan Morris, Ramon Aguero, Casey Erickson, Michael Dubee, Shelby Ford, Jim Negrych, Kris Watts

Of these, I'd say Lincoln and Hernandez are no-brainers.

Morris is a tricky case; scouts like him a lot and the Pirates certainly paid a pretty penny to get him, but the performance record so far hasn't been there, and it's very hard to see how he could stick on another team's 25-man roster for the entire year.

WTM is a big fan of Aguero, a reliever who spent time with West Virginia, Lynchburg and Altoona last year. Aguero had a nice season in 2009 and has followed that up with a good showing in the Dominican Winter League, but I'm agnostic here. He's almost 25, so he's not a great prospect. Every year the Pirates protect these sorts of marginal pitchers, mostly relievers--Jeff Sues, Dave Davidson, Romulo Sanchez, Luis Munoz, Olivo Astacio, Ronald Belisario, and so on--and never do they seem to get anything out of them. (Ok, Astacio was released because of behavioral issues, and Belisario blossomed with the Dodgers, but still.) The problem with Aguero is that he'd be easier than Morris to hide on a big-league roster for a year, and because he played well this year and has good stuff, there would be reason for a team who selected him to hope he wouldn't end up hurting them too badly. I'd probably protect him, but I don't think we should expect much from him in the long haul.

The other guys, though at least vaguely intriguing, can probably be left off. Erickson is too far from the majors, Dubee doesn't have great stuff, and Ford and Negrych haven't shown enough in the minors. (Negrych might have some vague chance of being taken in the Rule 5 and used as a bench bat.) Watts is only a nominal prospect because he's a catcher.

So let's say three spots will be needed for Lincoln, Hernandez and Aguero, and possibly a fourth for Morris. The Pirates would probably also prefer to leave one spot for their own Rule 5 pick, although they can also dump someone later to make room. 

All this means that probably a couple of players will be dumped from the roster this week. Of those, Sues, Anthony Claggett, Justin Thomas, Brian Bixler, and Luis Cruz would all be potential candidates.

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I'd remove Claggett, Bixler and Thomas.

I’d protect Lincoln, Hernandez, Morris and Aguero.

by IAPiratesFan on Nov 15, 2009 9:36 PM EST reply actions  

Really No Hard Decisions Here...

for NH.

Bixler should be gone – he had several chances and didnt capitalize on them.

I would protect Lincoln, Hernandez, Morris and Dubee.

by Mick Kraut on Nov 16, 2009 8:48 AM EST reply actions  

If we don’t roster Morris, then there’s a very good chance that he’ll be gone. Performance record is almost irrelevant, when figuring out who’ll be picked. It’s definitely secondary to plus stuff, which he has.

There actually has been one unprotected reliever who came back to bite the Pirates a bit, Charlie. Henry Owens was taken in the AAA portion, and a few years later he was blowing people away as Florida’s closer, before he tore up his arm. And it’s a bit premature to say that Sues isn’t going to be anything.

I definitely roster Lincoln, Gorkys, and Morris. I’m on the fence with Aguero – is he playing winter ball anywhere?

by Vlad on Nov 16, 2009 9:53 AM EST reply actions  

Aguero

In the Dominican. He’s been pretty much lights out so far.

by WTM on Nov 16, 2009 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

I’d forgotten about Owens. That really was pointless. Jonathan Albaladejo, too, although that wasn’t a Rule 5 pick.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Nov 16, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

I like Albaladejo. Word is that the Yanks might bump him off their roster at the end of the week. If so, I wouldn’t mind if we grabbed him back.

by Vlad on Nov 16, 2009 5:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Morris

He would be drafted. Agreed he hasn’t seized his opportunity with the Pirates. But he does have plus stuff. Why in the world would you risk him to protect Bixler, Cruz or Claggett?

by Bernie6666 on Nov 16, 2009 10:05 AM EST reply actions  

Phil DUmatrait has to be a candidate too… he looked pretty terrible in the last few outings… I don’t know whether you leave him or Thomas unprotected first… but Thomas has good lefty numbers, and Dumatrait doesn’t…

Lincoln, Hernandez are no-brainers…

I m sure Morris and Aguero will be protected. I think it’s possible Aguero could be in Pittsburgh by September.

I would also expect Shelby Ford and Michael Dubee to be protected…

casey erickson has been in the low minors too long… kris watts is also probably a prime candidate to be left unprotected… of the ML roster, Bixler, Cruz, Claggett must be pretty likely to be outrighted…

by BurgherKing on Nov 16, 2009 11:31 AM EST reply actions  

Protection

I’d guess Lincoln, Morris, Gorkys, and Aguero get on the 40-man.

I can’t imagine anyone selecting Ford, Dubee, Watts, Erickson, or Negrych.

That means we discard 2, or 3 if we want a rule 5 pick. I’ll call Claggett, Dumatrait, and Cruz gone.

by God Loves on Nov 16, 2009 11:59 AM EST reply actions  

Dubee

If we don’t protect him, I think he will be selected by someone.

by Brakeman8 on Nov 16, 2009 1:41 PM EST reply actions  

I doubt it. His stuff isn’t impressive.

by WTM on Nov 16, 2009 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I have to agree with WTM.

by Vlad on Nov 16, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Morris

will be picked if we leave him available. I could see some team picking him and pittong his power arm at the back of the bullpen.

by joegonzo on Nov 16, 2009 7:10 PM EST reply actions  

If Morris is left off the 40-man roster

and is picked by someone, the team could always invent some injuries during the year every two months and send him on rehab assignments without too many worries because the Pirates did it with Donnie Veal.

by patthatt on Nov 16, 2009 7:45 PM EST reply actions  

Our 40 man roster is still very awful, so I seriously doubt that not protecting Morris is an option.

by Adam Reynolds on Nov 16, 2009 9:32 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed.

This is not up for discussion. Morris will be protected on potential alone. We drafter Veal for the same reason so there is no reason in the world we would not protect Morris with the amount of crap still on the roster.

by Slick1 on Nov 16, 2009 9:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Bixie will look great in an Astros uni.

Free your ass and your mind will follow.

by cocktailsfor2 on Nov 17, 2009 9:11 AM EST reply actions  

cocktails

I’m hoping he goes to the Cubs so you can see him for home games.

by patthatt on Nov 17, 2009 11:04 AM EST reply actions  

You bastard! ;-)

Good thing he’d never make their big club.

Free your ass and your mind will follow.

by cocktailsfor2 on Nov 17, 2009 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Help needed on Ascanio

After reading about Ascanio’s situation at WTM’s profiles, why would we protect him? We’d almost certainly have to protect him again next year, and would only have a 30 day rehab assignment available in 2011 or he’d have to make the big club. I think the odds on that are very, very slight. Am I missing something? Thanks in advance.

by azibuck on Nov 17, 2009 12:02 PM EST reply actions  

If we bump him off the 40-man roster...

…he can become a minor league free agent and leave. Apparently, we would prefer that didn’t happen.

by Vlad on Nov 17, 2009 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

For all we know, they might remove him from the roster this week.

by WTM on Nov 17, 2009 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

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