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Jeebus Cracker


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By JAY COHEN
AP Sports Writer
NEW YORK (AP) -- Talk about a freak -- Tim Lincecum needed just 15 wins to bag
another NL Cy Young Award.

Yup, throw out those old baseball cards. Wins and losses don't mean much anymore
when it comes time for voters to pick baseball's best pitchers. It's all about
WHIP, FIP, BABIP and other lines of alphabet soup.

``It's turned into a game of complete numbers and statistics and what people do
with that,'' Lincecum said.

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I didn’t realize alphabet soup was served in lines.

I’m sorry, badly constructed metaphors have become a pet peeve of mine.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Nov 19, 2009 5:54 PM EST reply actions  

Cy Young

Maybe this is finally a step in the right direction, away from wins and towards statistics that are more accurate of a pitcher’s success.

by NastyNate82 on Nov 19, 2009 6:14 PM EST reply actions  

It definitely is. And it’s happened in a short time. Compare Pedro Martinez’s 2002 season to Cy Young winner Barry Zito’s, for example.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Nov 19, 2009 6:44 PM EST up reply actions  

It doesn’t exactly take a masters degree in statistics to understad WHIP…right?

by Adam Reynolds on Nov 19, 2009 6:47 PM EST reply actions  

Apparently, Jay Cohen doesn’t understand ERA or strikeouts, either.

by WTM on Nov 19, 2009 6:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I hate all those lines of alphabet soup like “ERA” and “RBI.”

by Charlie Wilmoth on Nov 19, 2009 7:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought that RBI and ERA had been deemed useless stats.

Hey, an out is an out - unless you're Mario, in which case it's probably two outs. -UtesFan89

by wg1of5 on Nov 19, 2009 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

You can’t imagine how much I’d love to get paid to write this tripe.

by Adam Reynolds on Nov 19, 2009 7:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually

Later in the story Lincecum says, “To say which one I look to the most, I would just say WHIP, just because you just limit the amount of baserunners than can hurt you.”

Yeah, that’s a tough concept.

Cohen also seems baffled by Greinke: “Greinke equaled the previous low of 16 wins in a nonshortened season when he won the AL award on Tuesday. Afterward, he talked all about FIP, which stands for Fielding Independent Pitching.”

Yep, it’s a brave new world out there Jay. Too bad you and your business may not live much longer to see it. I wonder why?

by bucdaddy on Nov 19, 2009 11:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I think “Jeebus Cracker” played for the Boston Beaneaters in the early 1900s.

by wickethewok on Nov 19, 2009 11:50 PM EST reply actions  

I think you’re thinking of Ebenezer Cracker.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Nov 20, 2009 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Baseball writers tend to remind me of the Luddites.

It’s only a matter of time until Bill Plasche and Murray Chass break into the offices of Baseball Prospectus and start smashing computers.

I made most of my life decisions at a Foghat concert... I stand by them.

by Chester J Lampwick on Nov 20, 2009 12:30 AM EST reply actions  

They would

if they could recognize a computer.

by MDBuc on Nov 20, 2009 7:13 AM EST up reply actions  

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