Conventional Wisdom

by NastyNate82 on Nov 21, 2009 2:23 AM EST Comment 11 comments

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/story/12547223/lincecums-backtoback-cy-youngs-draw-durability-question-not-hof

I know this has little if anything to do with the Bucs. But articles like this bother the bejesus outta me. Just wanted to know everyone's thoughts about Tiny Tim. And contrary to Knobbie's point in the article, it seems to me that even if he "holds up" at least another 5 years, people will keep asking the same questions about whether he can hold up when he's 35. My favorite part...how every scout's favorite "horse," with the great delivery, Chris Carpenter--guy breaks down more than a Yugo.

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I’ve always wondered whether there is in fact a correlation between pitcher height and weight and days spent on the DL. Has BP ever done a study or anything?

My thoughts on Tiny Tim are that he’s a weird guy.

by wickethewok on Nov 21, 2009 3:35 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

My favorite line

is Lincecum quoting Johnson: “Never be content. Just keep getting better.”

That, my friends, is why you want the veteranosity on your team, why you NEED the Doug Malphabets and the like, to tell the guys: Keep getting better.

I should keep getting better? Thanks, Randy, that’s sage advice right there. I’d never have figured that one out on my own.

by bucdaddy on Nov 21, 2009 10:02 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

I actually thought I’d try to keep getting worse, but then I figured I’d listen to Randy’s advice.

by Charlie on Nov 21, 2009 8:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Never be content

For some reason, that reminds me of the scene in The Matrix where agent Smith explains how the first matrix failed because it was designed to be a utopia and humans need strife and suffering.

by WTM on Nov 21, 2009 9:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

That was my problem with "The Matrix"

I thought the pseudoworld they were living in looked just fine. I bet in a Matrix world even the Pirates are champions. Why would anyone want to overthrow that?

by bucdaddy on Nov 23, 2009 10:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

There’s the perception that because his mechanics are somewhat unorthodox, and he’s small, that will make him more prone to injury. I don’t buy either point causing more injury. I might concede that a small pitcher with bad form is more likely to not last as long as a big pitcher with bad form. But if a pitcher has a great delivery like Lincecum, I’d be surprised if he ran into arm trouble as much as Carpenter and the like.

by Adam Reynolds on Nov 21, 2009 12:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Lincecum's delivery...

should actually keep him from being injured. His delivery puts less strain on his arm which will keep him from hurting it. The only problem is it requires a lot of athleticism and that may not be able to hold up when he is older. Right now though, he is the best pitcher in the majors easily and is one of the least likely pitchers to injur their arm.

by joegonzo on Nov 21, 2009 7:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Ummmm

Halladay? Just sayin’.

by bucdaddy on Nov 23, 2009 10:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Lincecum is the shit.

Period.

Free your ass and your mind will follow.

by cocktailsfor2 on Nov 21, 2009 7:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I'm not so sure that some of Lincecum's advantage

is not anatomical and can’t be taught.

When I saw that Beyond Baseball commercial with his dad this year- the one in which the old man puts his arm around him-I could be wrong but it looks like extraordinary flexibility in the shoulder joints runs in the family.

Now I don’t have any number to prove my point, it’s just an opinion based on what I saw.

by patthatt on Nov 23, 2009 7:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Agree

I think there are some elements of his delivery that can be copped, and I also like that he rarely ices his arm, but a lot of his torque creation is natural, not learned.

by azibuck on Nov 24, 2009 11:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs