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It's 2002. It's Pittsburgh. And You are There...


...as the GM.  You haven't been fired, even though a plurality (41%) of you traded a popular player and almost no one (3%) went out and hired a free agent.  About 1/4 of you untraded Jason Schmidt - I was not able to follow the Pirates in the late 90's, so I was surprised that this many people saw promise in him given his age and numbers.  Another 25% thought it best to build from within. 

    

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If you were among the 25% who chose to build from within by promoting Mackowiak, Wilson, Fogg, etc., - you could be smarter than a Pirates GM. 

    The Pirates’ management did very little during the 2001 off-season, We again had a core of Jason Kendall, Jack Wilson (who improved his BA to .250), Aramis Ramirez (whose BA dropped to .234 and HRs dropped to 18) and Brian Giles, who had a monster year with a .298 BA and 38 HR; he also drew 135 walks.  Free agent “Pokey” Reese looked like a definite upgrade over Pat Meares at 2B; for fun, try counting how many second basemen Jack Wilson gets teamed with before Freddy Sanchez arrives.  Adrian Brown started the year in CF and was awful.  Craig Wilson got the majority of ABs as our RF and was serviceable – a .264 BA, 16 HR, and 16 2B.  Rob Mackowiak got a lot of playing time for a utility player (385 AB), and hit only .244, but had 16 HR and 22 2B.  Humberto Cota, who hit .294 in limited playing time, looked like a capable back-up for Jason Kendall.  But 33-year old Keith Osik was blocking him.  Even with some improvement, our offensive totals ranged from 14th to 16th among the National League.  Incredibly, we scored fewer runs.   

      The pitching staff’s ERA, like a drunk on a high-wire, had nowhere to go but down and it did, falling to 4.24 (10/16 in the NL) and the bullpen was 3rd best with 47 saves.  Most of the improvement came from a trio of new pitchers – Wells, Fogg, and Kris Benson.  Between them, they had 33 wins and only 32 losses.  Eight other pitchers started for the Pirates, trying to fill the 3 and 5 spots in the rotation; most came and went unnoticed, like the period after the Dr. on a Dr Pepper can.  There are a lot of familiar names among our spot starters and middle relieves, but except for Bronson Arroyo and Ron Villone, none appear to have done much after leaving the Pirates.  Bronson is another pitcher who makes me wonder if Spin Williams was part of the problem.  He spent most of the 2002 season in AAA. In 3 years in Pittsburgh, Arroyo was 9 and 14, with a 5.44 ERA.  His HR, SO, and K/9 innings stayed roughly the same when he pitched for the Reds and Red Sox, but his ERA fell to 4.00 and 4.19, respectively.  Was that from our defense or Spin Williams’ coaching? 

 

      Unfortunately, in trying how to build on this success and get to .500 (or the NL Central title), our minor league system does not have much in the pipeline for the future.  The AAA affiliate in Nashville is full of 27-30+ year old players.  The only youngsters are Duaner Sanchez (who we traded for in 2002), Tike Redman, Tony McKnight, Chad Hermansen (who we traded away in 2002), and (for part of the year) Humberto Cota.  John Grabow is the only familiar name in AA, but Ian Snell, Jose Bautista, and Ryan Doumit were all at Hickory.  Sean Burnett made his first appearance as part of the Pirates organization, as did some guys named Matt Capps and Zach Duke (8-1 in rookie league).  Skimming the Pirates minor league roster, you don’t see a lot of names that jump out at you as having left the Pirates and then making a name for themselves with other organizations. 

       The 2002 draft brought Bryan “where is he now?” Bullington, Brad “Big Country” Eldred, the “Mad Capper”, and – in the 33rd round – Nyjer “Nate the Grate” Morgan.  Seriously, does anyone know whatever happened to Bullington? Shockingly, Nate the Grate was not called up immediately to play CF, as he was clearly the keystone for this organization.   During the season, the Pirates only made two moves – Mike Fetters was traded for Duaner Sanchez and Chad Hermansen (oops, there goes our already-thin depth in AAA) was traded for Darren Lewis.

     This in-house rebuilding resulted in the Pirates having a 72-81 record (10 more wins and 11 fewer losses but I don’t know how) than the 2001 season.  The team appears to have the core of a competent pitching staff and appears to be headed in the right direction – that is quite a turnaround in only one year. 

 

Poll
What moves do you make, that the Pirates didn’t think off, to get the 9 more wins needed to break even in 2003?
I haven't even read your options and once again, I’ve got a better idea you missed – see comments below. Where you drinking when you typed these up?
0 votes
Spend $3-5 million on one big free agent to get someone to play 1B (we need it), 3B (Ramirez did nothing last year), or to shore up the outfield.
5 votes
Bite the bullet and trade Ramirez. Maybe we can get some value for him, even though we’re selling low.
1 votes
Spend your free agent money on a top-of-the-rotation pitcher. Using your crystal ball, you just know that Ramirez will snap out of it, you have internal options at 1B and in the outfield; heck, if need be, you can get someone off the street who will hit b
22 votes
Trade one of the starting pitchers who just showed up – Fogg, Wells, or Benson – and try to get some offense.
15 votes

43 votes | Poll has closed

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Either go find a 1B or an outfielder one of the two

"From time to time gunfighters get shot."-Mike Tomlin the third greatest Steelers coach

by WVPiratesfan on Dec 3, 2009 3:40 PM EST reply actions  

This wasn't the year we were offered Howard for Benson?

If so, I do that. Wouldn’t have helped in 2002, but it’d be sweet now.

Hey, an out is an out - unless you're Mario, in which case it's probably two outs. -UtesFan89

Why can't Mendy bust a long TD run? We could use it.

by wg1of5 on Dec 3, 2009 5:58 PM EST reply actions  

Trogs,

you are the bomb, yo.

Free your ass and your mind will follow.

by cocktailsfor2 on Dec 3, 2009 6:02 PM EST reply actions  

More evidence of Spin Williams

messing up our pitching? I still think that hiring (and now retaining) Joe Kerrigan has been one of the most under-rated improvements the Pirates have made. A GM cannot personally know each player out there. He has to have competent talent evaluators and trainers working for him throughout the system.

I realize that Kerrigan is a coach, not a scout, but I would expect that he defines the standards that the pitching scouts apply.

by Trogluddite on Dec 3, 2009 7:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Just realized that one comment got cut off

It said “anyone would hit better than Adrian Brown.” But it could just as well be “Pokey Reese,” Kevin Young (thankfully limited), or even Aramis Ramires this year.

by Trogluddite on Dec 3, 2009 6:56 PM EST reply actions  

I’d trade Benson.

I want to say I’’d trade Wells too, because we all know he ended up being terrible, but at the time he looked like he had a lot of potential. I still think a good pitching coach could have straightened out his control problems and made him a good pitcher. Maybe I’d hire a pitching coach…but I digress.

I’d trade Benson for sure. He’d had two good years before Tommy John surgery, and he was the Stephen Strasburg-esque “it” pitcher when he was drafted. I’d have traded him at the deadline after it was clear that his recovery from TJ surgery wasn’t going to be swift, but he still had a lot of value.

I’d have kept Fogg around, either as a back of the rotation starter or a swing man from the pen. Couldn’t have gotten much value for him, and he was a serviceable pitcher.

I would have kept Ramirez for a little longer. Young player, he’s bound for a rebound after a successful 2001. Beyond him, though, I’d have traded just about anyone to stock the farm system. It was even more pathetic then than the one Huntington inherited…at least that one had Andrew McCutchen…

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by Nate Rose on Dec 5, 2009 3:21 AM EST reply actions  

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