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2009 Pirates Rookies: What to Expect

Pat's new Fanhouse post about Pirates prospects who could make an impact this season reminded me that a couple weeks ago Reds Minor Leagues asked me to do something similar. They didn't use most of what I wrote, so I've pasted it below. They asked me to do projections of any players who might join the Pirates as rookies next year. I felt a little weird about that, since the Pirates don't really have any rookies who are great bets to get a ton of playing time, except maybe Andrew McCutchen, and even he probably won't start the year in the bigs. But I gave it a shot anyway.

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It's quite possible that out of all these guys, only one (a backup catcher) will make the opening day roster. Most of them will play much less than a full season in the big leagues. Taking my projections too seriously here would be a bad idea. Nonetheless:


Andrew McCutchen 250 AB .270/.340/.375
Robinzon Diaz 80 AB .270/.295/.320
Jason Jaramillo 160 AB .250/.305/.330
Neil Walker 80 AB .210/.270/.380

McCutchen is one of the best Pirates prospects; he brings good on-base skills and defense, but it may be a couple years before he starts hitting for much power at the big-league level. Diaz and Jaramillo are standard backup catchers; Jaramillo gets the edge in playing time because of his defense. Walker had a terrible year at AAA in 2008 and, barring major improvements, will have a very hard time reaching base in the big leagues.

Daniel McCutchen 90 IP 4.60 ERA 65 K 35 BB
Jesse Chavez 25 IP 4.90 ERA 20 K 15 BB
Jimmy Barthmaier 70 IP 5.20 ERA 55 K 35 BB
Evan Meek 45 IP 4.80 ERA 40 K 25 BB
Jeff Sues 25 IP 5.20 ERA 25 K 20 BB
Donald Veal 15 IP 7.10 ERA 10 K 15 BB

The take-home message is that these guys just aren't that good. As with any group of young pitchers, there's a lot of potential for variation among them, and so it wouldn't surprise me if one or two of these guys ended up being useful in 2009, but I wouldn't expect them to be very good right away. I expect at least a couple will pitch a few innings for Pittsburgh, completely implode, and spend the rest of the year in the minors. I like Dan McCutchen better than most do; he has a good performance record, and a lot less minor league experience than most pitchers his age. I think Donald Veal is a good, high-upside gamble as a Rule 5 pick and that the Pirates will take him north whether his Spring Training performance warrants it or not, but I think the odds are against him and they'll eventually have to send him back to the Cubs. Picking him was a chance worth taking, though.

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I'm sure we'll see

Dan McCutchen at some point this season. He’s about the only rookie pitcher I’m really excited about seeing this year.

by northsidenotch on Feb 13, 2009 5:44 PM EST reply actions  

neil walker

I wonder if he puts up the numbers you project, will he receive the same leeway andy laroche has been given? I tend to doubt it. A lot of the posts I read about Walker (not here, on other forums) is that he’s just plain garbate, patooey.

by mocasdad on Feb 14, 2009 9:36 AM EST reply actions  

Those projected stats actually look pretty good

compared to what Andy managed and Neil is 2 years younger. If he does meet that projection, I would consider it an encouraging sign since at his age there is still a lot of room for growth.

by WestCoastBuc on Feb 14, 2009 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

He's not garbage...

…but it’s a plain and simple fact that he hasn’t played nearly as well in the minors as LaRoche has. As such, expectations are correspondingly lower.

by Vlad on Feb 16, 2009 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Funny ...

how people see thimgs differently.

The pitching projections look horrendous to me. If those pitchers put up numbers close to the projections, they would have to be viewed as abysmal failures.

If Cutch gets 250 ABs (I hope he gets more!) and puts up those numbers, I would be pleased for his first ML experience at 22..

by thegunner on Feb 14, 2009 12:00 PM EST reply actions  

After reading about him for a while, I’m looking forward to seeing him.

by ol Pete on Feb 14, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Most pitchers suck in their first year.

The ones that don’t are the exceptions.

I mean, Greg freakin’ Maddux had a 5.52 ERA in his first cup of coffee, and then a 5.61 as a full-time member of the rotation the next year. He learned from the ass-kicking, made adjustments, and turned into the Maddux we all know. It’ll probably be the same for our guys, except for the turning-into-Maddux part.

by Vlad on Feb 16, 2009 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

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