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2009 N.L. Central Preview: Cincinnati Reds

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How much of their teammates' shortcomings will talented young Reds like Joey Votto be able to offset? (photo: phillenium1979)

2008 record: 74-88

Pythagorean record: 72-90

In: C Ramon Hernandez, OF Willy Taveras, 1B/OF Daryle Ward, OF Jonny Gomes, OF Jacque Jones, RP Arthur Rhodes

Out: C Paul Bako, C Javier Valentin, UT Ryan Freel, OF Corey Patterson, SP Matt Belisle, RP Jeremy Affeldt, RP Gary Majewski

OFFSEASON

Not good. Like the Astros, the Reds seems to think that once you have a decent core in place, the right thing to do is to spread the rest of your money around to as many mediocre veterans as possible. In addition to signing Hernandez, Taveras and Rhodes, the Reds also re-signed a number of their own free agents, including David Weathers (one year, $3.9 million), Mike Lincoln (two years, $4 million), Norris Hopper (one year, $402,000) and Jerry Hairston (one year, $2 milion). Individually, there were arguments to be made for each of these signings: both Weathers and Lincoln were modestly effective last year, Hopper cost barely above the league minimum, and Hairston posted an .871 OPS in 261 at bats in 2009. But Weathers is 39 and had problems with walks last year, Hairston will be 33 and had two straight years absolutely awful years before 2008, and Lincoln and Hopper have never been very good.

More troubling was the signing of Taveras to a two-year, $6.25 million deal, ostensibly to be their starting center fielder. As a basestealing fiend and a solid defensive outfielder, Taveras has his uses, but he managed just a .295 slugging percentage last year in Coors Field, and he has absolutely no business starting. Ramon Hernandez, meanwhile, has good power for a starting catcher, but his batting average has been dwindling for a while now, and he may be close to done.

OFFENSE

If the right players develop, this could be a very interesting bunch of hitters, but the Reds will continue to miss Adam Dunn, and will suffer because players like Hernandez, Taveras, likely starting leftfielder Chris Dickerson, and newly-healthy shortstop Alex Gonzalez are unlikely to pull their weight. Also, while the Reds' farm system still contains several intriguing hitters in the wake of the graduations of Jay Bruce and Joey Votto, most of the really good ones are a couple years from the majors.

Reds GM Walt Jocketty, whether due to circumstance or intention, seems to be following the pattern he established while running the Cardinals: if your three or four talented hitters are good enough, you can phone in big portions of the rest of the lineup.  The World Series-winning '06 Cards, for example, featured Yadier Molina (53 OPS+), Aaron Miles (74) and So Taguchi (78) in key roles alongside Albert Pujols (178), Scott Rolen (126), and Jim Edmonds (110). During the last several years of Jocketty's tenure, the Cardinals nearly always had a needlessly frustrating supporting cast and bench. It's a strategy (if "strategy" is the right word) that's less likely to work for the Reds, because they don't have a Pujols in their lineup.

Still, it's hard to be too negative about an offense that features youngsters Bruce and Votto along with Edwin Encarnacion and Brandon Phillips. Bruce showed exceptional power in his 2008 rookie season and could easily break out in a big way this year. Votto already has a solid base of skills and will be entering his age-25 season. And I've been waiting for several years for Encarnacion to break out. He hasn't yet, but he bumped up his walk and home run rates last year, so this season may be the right time.

PITCHING

The Reds' first four starters (Edinson Volquez, Aaron Harang, Johnny Cueto and Bronson Arroyo) all pitched plenty of innings for Cincinnati last year, but the fifth rotation spot is open to a relative newcomer, probably either Micah Owings or Homer Bailey. All of the Reds' front four starters posted rather high flyball rates last year while pitching in a homer-friendly ballpark, and Owings is likely to do the same if he wins the job. 

That's unfortunate for them--put the Reds' rotation in PETCO Park, and suddenly they'd look like the mid-90s Braves. With the exception of Owings, all the starters have high strikeout rates, and their staff could lead the majors in strikeouts this year. Still, their fates will depend on how many of their flyballs fall into the seats or the gaps, and that's not something the pitchers themselves have much control over. Taveras, for all his faults, will at least help the pitching staff somewhat. For now, though, the Reds have a talented rotation that is badly suited to its ballpark.

In the bullpen, the Reds will accompany closer Francisco Cordero (whose walks rose to worrisome levels in 2008) with a couple of effective and relatively young relievers in Jared Burton and Bill Bray. Beyond that, things get a bit dicier, and Weathers, Lincoln and Rhodes are neither young nor particularly good. Should any of them falter, the Reds shouldn't hesitate to turn to any number of young, mildly interesting options, such as Nick Masset (who's also nominally in the running for that last rotation job), Ramon Ramirez, Danny Herrera, Josh Roenicke or even fast-moving 2008 third-round pick Zach Stewart. All in all, this is a decent bullpen with few obvious shut-down pitchers but lots of intriguing ones.

PROGNOSIS

The Reds' stable of high-upside players (Bruce, Votto, Volquez, Cueto, Bailey) will make them an interesting team to watch no matter what, but the full 25-man roster will leave something to be desired. If the Reds' offense stays healthy and if their starters keep the ball in the park and if Bruce and the other youngsters continue to develop, they could easily finish well above .500. Their lack of offensive depth is a huge problem, however, as is the fact that their starters have to pitch half their games in a stadium that magnifies their weaknesses. They also have a front office that, judging from its decisions over the past year or so, can't be trusted to cut bait on players who don't get the job done. I'm picking the Reds to finish fourth this year, but they could do better, and I think they're pretty clearly stronger than the Astros, so the chances that they'll finish below fourth are low.

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Since he couldn’t slug more than .295 at Coors, does a ball hit by Willy Taveras leave the infield this year?

by wickethewok on Mar 10, 2009 2:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Look on the bright side Cincy

You got Daryle Ward.

And yes I did catch a foul ball hit by him as a Bucco a few years back. No Big Deal.

I GOT MY STREET BUZZ BEFORE I GOT MY PEACH FUZZ

by omar moreno on Mar 10, 2009 9:02 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

good overview

Taveras did have a good year the season earlier. This team would be a good landing spot for Pudge. I wonder how low his price is getting to be.

by ol Pete on Mar 10, 2009 10:10 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Rotation

Not sure why but I’m a fan of their rotation. I like the youth they’ve gathered and it’s not the youth like the Pirates usually have. It’s a group that has enough talent and upside to do some damage both this year and in the future. Plus, its hard to root against Volquez…and I don’t even know why that is.

by D.M.J. on Mar 10, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I like a lot of their individual players...

…but you can never underestimate the importance of the Dusty factor.

by Vlad on Mar 10, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Red Reporter here

I think this is pretty close to being correct except for a couple of things.
  As Vlad aptly points out, the Dusty factor rears its absurd head at every turn. His insistence on poor lineup construction and needless in game meddling will continue to cost the Reds numerous and already scarce runs. Also, Dusty and his near moronic “gut instincts” will likely lead him to carry one or more of Jacque Jones, Daryl Ward, and Johnny Gomes to platoon with Dickerson in left field. (Although Ward would likely be just a bench bat/ backup 1B). My hope is that it is Gomes, but the smart money would be on Jones considering it’s Dusty and all. Drew Stubbs has already been assigned to minor league camp but should be ready soon, which would make the Taveras signing all the more befuddling.
    The pitching has many of us excited as well. The 5th spot is likely a two man race between Homer Bailey and MIcah Owings and both have been quite impressive so far this spring.
  But, like I said, nice job and here’s to the Reds and Bucs battling out for league supremacy for years to come.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Mar 10, 2009 4:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

greetings from Red Reporter

excellent work Chuck. one (very small) quibble i have is lumping Chris Dickerson in with Taveras and the other riff-raff. Dickerson is pretty old for a prospect (he’ll be 27 this season) but he has tools galore and seemed to finally put it together last season. his minor league numbers have never excited me, but last year he repeated AAA and hit well, then came up for a month and hit very well.

he plays an excellent CF, which is one of many, many reasons why Taveras was such a bad signing. he cant hit lefties a lick, but Jonny Gomes sure can. They should make for a serviceable platoon. and Dickerson’s defense in LF is going to be galaxies better than Dunn’s. Taveras’ D replacing Patterson is probably a slight downgrade, but Bruce replacing Jr is another huge plus. the team defense is going to be much better this year.

i dont have much to go on to justify my love for C-Dick-Run, and maybe you are right in your less-than-glowing assessment of him. but keep an eye out for him. hopefully you all will grow to hate him :)

My millions are unconventional!

by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 10, 2009 4:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks, Chuck. (And you too, Pops.) Since Dickerson was repeating the level, my inclination is to be skeptical about his AAA stats, especially at his age. I’m probably inclined to be too down on over-aged prospects—everyone here knows what I think about Nyjer Morgan, for example. But if Dickerson’s improved numbers last year were for real, maybe he has a couple years of, I don’t know, Eric Byrnes in him, in which case the Reds would be in pretty good shape. I see that as a best-case scenario, though.

You’re right about the outfield defense being better. That should help the pitchers a great deal.

Pops: re: Dusty, I wrote about him in my preview because I was concerned he’d play Hatteberg over Votto. Fortunately for you guys, he didn’t. I don’t think so highly of Dickerson, so this year I don’t see there being a lot of high-upside guys who risk being benched. I think Dusty’s an idiot, but after fretting for years over ever dumb pinch-hitting decision Lloyd McClendon made and realizing it ultimately didn’t matter much, I try not to worry about managers. I think he’ll only be a problem this year if he abuses Volquez, Cueto or Bailey.

by Charlie on Mar 10, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

Dickerson did repeat AAA, and his production in one month in the Bigs is totally unsustainable, and he is old, and everything i know about baseball tells me he’s a scrub, but…

his walk rates have always been great, he is a freak athlete (his cousin is Eric Dickerson), and he’s shown pretty impressive power potential. his defense is where i think most of his value is tied up, and if he can OPS around .780 (which i think is very doable) i think he can all but replace Dunn in LF. i dont expect him to be a star like i do Votto and Bruce, but he can certainly be a solid regular. hopefully.

My millions are unconventional!

by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 10, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

and even if he does not pan out, most thoughtful Reds fans agree that ‘09 is a practice season anyway. Next year, with any luck, Yonder Alonzo forces the organization’s hand and moves either he, Votto, or E.Encanacion to left and Dickerson is a footnote with Stubbs making Taveras an overpaid pinch runner. These are my wishes anyway.
     And I agree somewhat about the Dusty/Lloyd comp for mindless meddling. It sure is/was frustrating to watch. Good luck with the new GM. I really do wish him well.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Mar 10, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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