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Our natural rival is...

Nobody.  And that is because we bring nothing to the table except the ability to allow our opponents to pad their statistics by playing us.  You can't blame the Phillies, Mets, or Indians for not wanting to be tagged as our rival.  It's like the short, fat, ugly girl wanting to be part of the "IN-CROWD".  You simply have to have something to offer or nobody cares.  One need only look at the NFL to see that the Detroit Lions only play on national television on Thanksgiving and even that wouldn't happen if they hadn't invented the idea.  Just take note that the NFL continues to rotate the teams that are allowed to beat the Lions because nobody wants to be permanently associated with the Lions.  Well, the same scenario is true for MLB and will continue to be true until such time as the Pirates bring something to the table.  Let's face it.  We are the Short, Fat, Ugly girl in MLB and nobody cares!

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Does this mean

as Pirate fans, we’re “chubby chasers?”

I'd rather be dead than singing "Satisfaction" at forty-five. -- M. Jagger

by cocktailsfor2 on May 24, 2009 11:58 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

funniest comment ever

hahaha

I GOT MY STREET BUZZ BEFORE I GOT MY PEACH FUZZ

by omar moreno on May 26, 2009 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Mets and Phillies

used to be big rivals with us back in the day….the day we weren’t losing year after year.

by phil79 on May 24, 2009 1:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree that although we may not have natural AL rivals (although Cleveland, Baltimore and New York seem logical) the best thing that could happen to Pittsburgh is to have the Pirates moved to the NL East. Mets, Phillies, Braves…sure beats the Astros, Cubs and Cardinals. The only Central team we really have a history with is the Reds.

by Brakeman8 on May 24, 2009 1:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Erie?

Scranton-Wilkes Barre?

by WTM on May 24, 2009 3:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

IPF

“we bring nothing to the table except the ability to allow our opponents to pad their statistics by playing us”

Off the top of my head, I’d say our starters have done a pretty good job keeping runs off the board this season; better than just about any of us expected so far.

We’ve had some crappy relief performances most of the year, though.

“will continue to be true until such time as the Pirates bring something to the table”

Huntington and Coonelly have been working hard from late in the 2007 season to turn things around. I know that you and your elderly sidekick, the gunner, have little patience, so I guess you’ll just have to suffer til we put a good team on the field again.

I see signs things are getting better throughout the organization, but you two can’t see the forest for the trees.

by patthatt on May 24, 2009 3:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pirates Rivals

If anyone, the Reds, they are the closest Geographically

by JackofAllTrades on May 24, 2009 6:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Really?

Pittsburgh-Cleveland = 133 miles
Pittsburgh-D.C. = 245 miles
Pittsburgh-Baltimore = 248 miles
Pittsburgh-Cincinnati = 284 miles
Pittsburgh-Detroit = 285
Pittsburgh-Toronto = 317 miles

by bucdaddy on May 24, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Huh

I would have thought the fact we usually suck would make us an attractive pairing for a team looking to score 2-3 easy wins.

by bucdaddy on May 24, 2009 8:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Like I alluded to in Charlie’s post, the Pirates need to get competitive before they can get rivals.

Look to the Steelers for an example (sorry), the Ravens despite being a new-ish team are the Steelers biggest rivals while an historical rival like the Browns is much less so due to crappiness.

The Pirates don’t need to play historical rivals like the Mets or Phillies in order to create modern rivals, they need to compete.

I made most of my life decisions at a Foghat concert... I stand by them.

by Chester J Lampwick on May 24, 2009 11:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Taking it all in.

This is my first post. Came across the Buc’s Dogout by accident. I have Nate McLouth in a fantasy league, so i started getting into the Pirates. I think the Buc’s have some good young talent, but it takes time to develop. Do they really have anyone to give up for an established player to build around, or tough it out. How good is this McCutchen? Stats don’t seem that great. Buc’s outfield is kinda crowded right now. Who is gonna go, or sit on the bench. White Sox are trying to get some young guys in their lineup, and it’s been tough to watch at times. Someone said the Buc’s should move to the East. There’s nothing wrong with the NL Central. When were the Red’s Pitt’s biggest rival? Musta missed that one. Just some things i threw out there. Good series coming up with the Cubbies starting tonight. Couple games might get rained out. Chance for the Buc’s to turn it around. Cub’s are in a huge SLUMP!!!!!!!!! Come on Nate, start hitting for me.

by Illinois Buc's fan on May 25, 2009 10:13 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

McCutchen

is widely regarded as one of the top 10-20 prospects in the game, although I agree, his stats, while pretty good, are nothing like say, Wieters who is also younger than him. What would probably happen, if he was brought up is Morgan would be traded/bench player and McLouth would move to a corner spot. Moss might lose his spot, but since hes hitting much better now and Morgan’s slumping slightly, and since he has at least a little power, probably not.

by DialedtoGiles on May 25, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Reds were the Pirates biggest rival...

during the entire decade of the 70s. See also, Ellis, Dock.

by Thunder on May 25, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Our Biggest Rivals

Are definetly the Reds and Nationals. The Brewers can get tossed in there too. We definetly have some bad blood with them.

I GOT MY STREET BUZZ BEFORE I GOT MY PEACH FUZZ

by omar moreno on May 26, 2009 8:54 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How

are the Nats our rivals? Theyve been there for 3-4 years, and weve never actually competed against them…

by DialedtoGiles on May 26, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

they are one of the only teams that haven't been 234 times better than us

and because i said so. but maybe i shouldve said that they will be our rivals soon enough.

I GOT MY STREET BUZZ BEFORE I GOT MY PEACH FUZZ

by omar moreno on May 27, 2009 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nah

This team doesn’t look good no matter how much I drink.

Go make a difference.

Till next time,
Joe

by Joe Jackets on May 27, 2009 11:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

"Playoffs!?! Who's talking about Playoffs!?"

In the immortal words of Jim Mora.

I think like the rivalries wer’re seeing develop for the Pens and Steelers, rivalries are born in the playoffs. Unfortunately since MLB is elitist and only includes the top 27% of its teams into the playoffs each year (compared to 37.5% NFL, 53.3% NHL/NBA) the chances of the Pirates soon forming any new rivalries this way are slim.

However, if we look at those teams that the Pirates have the most grumblings with, I’d say the Brewers are our cheif rivalry right now. If somehow this season ends better than is expected, say a run at a winning record, or even a wildcard (Please don’t hate me, I can dare to dream), then whomever we we’re playing those critical games against may be the new Rivalries we’re all apparently looking for.

In short I agree with the premise of this thread. The Bucs have done little to offerANY competition to any of their potential rivals, and until they begin sticking in the side of someone that’s not likely to change.

by Pensburgh Pirates on May 28, 2009 5:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Id have to agree

there was some bad blood last series, and there hasnt been any recent animosity between us and the Cards/Cubs/Reds/Astros. (Well maybe a little with the Cubs) But rivalries are born out of three things: Playing each other a lot, closeness to each other, and competitiveness. The Pirates simply arent any good right now, and its kind of hard to have a rival when you arent competing for anything but last place.

by DialedtoGiles on May 28, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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