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Johnny Cueto posted nine strikeouts in the Reds' shutout of the Pirates Sunday.

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Johnny Cueto posted nine strikeouts in the Reds' shutout of the Pirates Sunday.

After delivering eight runs yesterday, the Pirates' offense vanished today, absent not only when Johnny Cueto was pretty filthy in the early innings, but also when he wore down as the game went on. The Bucs managed just four singles and one walk, and Cueto racked up nine strikeouts.

There are a couple problems here: the first is that, for all the talk about the number of shutouts the Pirates have recorded, they've now been shut out themselves in three of their last four games. As someone pointed out in the comments the other day, it's May and the Bucs still only have five players who have hit any homers at all, and those include Ryan Doumit, who's unavailable, and Craig Monroe, a bad hitter by any reasonable measure. 

Then there's Jeff Karstens, who delivered another poor start today and now has a 5.85 ERA on the season, with nine strikeouts against 13 walks. He eked out a good start against the Marlins a couple weeks ago, but other than that absolutely nothing about his performance has been convincing, and he's showing little of the command he had at times last year. He might have fared a bit better today if Brandon Moss had done a better job handling what became a three-run single by Ramon Hernandez, but there's still the fact that Karstens himself let two of the runners who scored reach base with walks. Karstens has only made four starts and the Pirates don't exactly have anyone pounding down the door at Class AAA, so he'll get some more chances, but I'm not sure how many more he deserves. 

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Delwyn Young

needs to get a start. Just one. He’s young and he’s been a good pinch hitter.

Give him a shot at second base one day; stick Freddy at short.

by Suffering Buc on May 3, 2009 4:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No, stick him in right field.

by thelumberco. on May 3, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Solid work from Meek today though

I made most of my life decisions at a Foghat concert... I stand by them.

by Chester J Lampwick on May 3, 2009 5:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Great…now we face Gallardo and the Brewskies again tomorrow! We may get shut out three games in a row!

by thelumberco. on May 3, 2009 5:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lumber,

Even worse for my spirits is the fact that Baseball Prospectus posted an article yesterday (or maybe the day before that) about pitchers getting lucky. At the top of the list? Maholm.

Not going to let it get me too down, though! We’re still above .500. It could be worse, and many of us probably expected it to be.

by CptnAwesome on May 3, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Watched some of this on TV

Karstens looked like Kip Wells without the gas, all around the plate but not over it, and when he finally got one over it got creamed.

I’ll also point out that Karstens had nothing to do with two of the outs in that three-run inning. Taveras got thrown out stealing and Hernandez got thrown out trying to stretch his off-the-wall single. Though in fairness, Votto really fought him for his walk and deserved it.

Obligatory: Is Josh Fogg still out of a job?

by bucdaddy on May 3, 2009 6:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

karstens needs to get the boot. not that daniel mccutchen is lighting it up in AAA but he is avg a K per inning, and has much more upside than karstens, i couldnt see how he’ do much worse.

Either Chavez or Meek or both need to take over tyler yates position in the bullpen pecking order. I know they have been put in low pressure situations, but really could they do worse than yates. a WHIP of over 1.70 for your #1 righthanded set up man is a disgrace.

by jsn4219 on May 3, 2009 8:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

As unimpressive as Karstens has been

I’ve never seen a team win when scoring zero runs.

Giving up 5 runs isn’t great, but he’s a fifth starter and a team with any kind of offense should have a chance of winning that game.

by Dignan on May 4, 2009 4:21 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Totally agree

by thelumberco. on May 4, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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