DL for Donnie Veal

by poorboywilly on May 31, 2009 12:49 PM EDT

Donnie Veal was apparently placed on the 15-day disabled list today with a "groin pull" that occured when he pitched for fifth time of the season on Friday. By "groin pull" I mean "we need our roster spot back for a while", not that there are really any better options in AAA. Dejan speculates that V V and Steven Jackson are the likely candidates, although I think it could be Chris Bootcheck. His era is fairly poor, but they were pretty close to keeping him in spring training and his 32K/4BB in 23.1 innings is tremendous, which perhaps speaks to the idea that a couple of bad outings hurt his ERA (as can happen easily with relievers).

At any rate, it doesn't really matter who we bring up, they aren't going to be all that much better than Veal, but the difference will be that we won't be working with a six man (or five man as the case has been since Capps was beaned) pen. It's nice to try and find a live lefty arm through the Rule 5, but when he simply can NEVER pitch it hurts, and I question how much value Veal himself is getting from nothing but bullpen sessions.

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Chris Bootcheck

is not on the 40-man roster, so I imagine his chances of coming up are somewhere between slim and none.

My guess is Steven Jackson will be recalled, with Virgil Vazquez waiting in the wings as a rotation replacement.

Gorzo will probably be sent down when Flood Gates Yates returns.

Once again, though, it is nice to have a little depth for the rotation at Indy in D. Cutch, VV, and Gorzo.

by patthatt on May 31, 2009 1:43 PM EDT reply actions

ah

40 man—did not recall that

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on May 31, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions

Isn’t there some sort of rule about how long a rule 5 pick can stay on the DL?

I made most of my life decisions at a Foghat concert... I stand by them.

by Chester J Lampwick on May 31, 2009 2:31 PM EDT reply actions

he can spend up to

thirty days on the DL and still be retained by acquiring team, as i understand.

i’d love to send a link, but i’ve tried to find clarification on the stipulations, but i had no success.

if more than thirty days, then he must start the process over again, to an extent.

by tim815 on May 31, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions

That sounds right. I don’t think anyone completely understands how the rule 5 system works.

I made most of my life decisions at a Foghat concert... I stand by them.

by Chester J Lampwick on May 31, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions

He can stay on the DL as long as he wants.

But if he misses more than X number of days, then he neeeds to spend the corresponding number of days on the ML roster at the start of the next season or be offered back to his original club.

This does come up from time to time – look at Adam Stern in Boston, for example.

by Vlad on Jun 1, 2009 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions

Actually...looking on wikipedia...

I see a mention that the selected player must be active for 90 days during the season…or the remaining days have to be applied for the following season. Right now…Veal has been active for 53 days by my count. So if the Pirates want to keep him…and be able to send him to the minors next season…he’s still going to need at least 37 days somewhere.

by Thunder on May 31, 2009 5:11 PM EDT reply actions

we're playing the same game

in chicago with david patton. i guess i shoulda checked wikipedia instead of the mlb rulebook.

by tim815 on Jun 1, 2009 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions

Dejan reports

that Bootcheck or Denny Bautista could be added to the 40-man roster and brought up if Craig Hansen is moved to the 60-day DL.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09152/974129-63.stm

by patthatt on Jun 1, 2009 10:12 AM EDT reply actions

Bautista could be ugly.

17 BB in 22 AAA innings. Would make him a pretty accurate replacement for Hansen, though.

Bootcheck could be decent. His peripherals this year are much better than his ERA/WHIP would indicate. Of course, his long-term track record is more spotty, though.

by Vlad on Jun 1, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions