Milwaukee Brewers @ Pittsburgh Pirates GameThread, May 5, 2009 7:05 PM EDT

Let's break the losing streak tonight.

I’m anticipating a few HRs, including one from Brandon Moss.

Gotta stay at least a little positive. Let’s get back to .500 for at least another day.

by patthatt on May 5, 2009 6:43 PM EDT reply actions

haha…good luck with that prediction. I do hope that Moss breaks out soon though. I really do. If he’s going to be playing everyday (which you all know I don’t necessarily agree with), then I wish him all the luck and hope he get’s going soon.

by thelumberco. on May 5, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions

this is stupid

there’s no reason we keep losing to the Brewers. And it is Suppan vs. Snell tonight, Suppan hasn’t been all that great vs. us while Snell has been pretty good (considering the streak especially) against the Brewers.

One more thing, don’t teams have to turn in some sort of active list or something before a game? I’m pretty suspicious about this whole Braun business.

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on May 5, 2009 7:03 PM EDT reply actions

I'm with you dude

I declare SHANANAGUNS ! Shananaguns on Ryan Braun ! I bet he didn’t even have an MRI yesterday !

by Ketcham Bruce on May 5, 2009 7:05 PM EDT reply actions

Bucs win, 4-2.

I'd rather be dead than singing "Satisfaction" at forty-five. -- M. Jagger

by cocktailsfor2 on May 5, 2009 7:08 PM EDT reply actions

Awesome play by Sanchez. Hope he’s okay. That shoulder is always an issue for him.

by Charlie Wilmoth on May 5, 2009 7:09 PM EDT reply actions

wha hoppen?

I'd rather be dead than singing "Satisfaction" at forty-five. -- M. Jagger

by cocktailsfor2 on May 5, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions

It was hard to tell from the replay, but he got up after throwing out Counsell clutching his shoulder. The trainers came out, but he stayed in the game.

by Charlie Wilmoth on May 5, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions

augh.

and Lameday won’t show replays any more. &^$#@!

I'd rather be dead than singing "Satisfaction" at forty-five. -- M. Jagger

by cocktailsfor2 on May 5, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions

I posted this on the

“Capps” thread, but – who becomes the de facto closer…provided we even get into that situation?

I'd rather be dead than singing "Satisfaction" at forty-five. -- M. Jagger

by cocktailsfor2 on May 5, 2009 7:14 PM EDT reply actions

or should that be

closer “pro tem?”

I'd rather be dead than singing "Satisfaction" at forty-five. -- M. Jagger

by cocktailsfor2 on May 5, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions

gotta be grabow

the only one with a good track record among them, even though he is struggling right now

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on May 5, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions

I think

they may throw Chavez out there if it come up.

(ducks)

I'd rather be dead than singing "Satisfaction" at forty-five. -- M. Jagger

by cocktailsfor2 on May 5, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions

jeebus...

Suppan’s FB is only 86, and his “change” is 79.

I'd rather be dead than singing "Satisfaction" at forty-five. -- M. Jagger

by cocktailsfor2 on May 5, 2009 7:18 PM EDT reply actions

Wow. Guess Freddy’s healthy.

by Charlie Wilmoth on May 5, 2009 7:18 PM EDT reply actions

FERDINAND!

I'd rather be dead than singing "Satisfaction" at forty-five. -- M. Jagger

by cocktailsfor2 on May 5, 2009 7:18 PM EDT reply actions

Joba Chamberlain

4 batters faced, 4 hits, 4 runs, no outs.

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on May 5, 2009 7:18 PM EDT reply actions

I'm thinking maybe...

he had to talk to the NY press today…and his mind isn’t on his job.

by Thunder on May 5, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions

Let's hope

Mario got his groundout to 2B out of the way there…

I'd rather be dead than singing "Satisfaction" at forty-five. -- M. Jagger

by cocktailsfor2 on May 5, 2009 7:22 PM EDT reply actions

career vs. Suppan

McLouth 6-14, 3 2B, 2 HR
Adam 8-21, 2 HR, 2 BB
Moss 2-5, 2B, HR

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on May 5, 2009 7:23 PM EDT reply actions

balls 2 & 3 looked good on my screen…

I'd rather be dead than singing "Satisfaction" at forty-five. -- M. Jagger

by cocktailsfor2 on May 5, 2009 7:25 PM EDT reply actions

that's a scary play

the fat man barreling down on you while trying to turn two

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on May 5, 2009 7:27 PM EDT reply actions

Brewers don’t seem to be having any trouble with Snell.

by Charlie Wilmoth on May 5, 2009 7:29 PM EDT reply actions

…or anyone we throw out there…

I'd rather be dead than singing "Satisfaction" at forty-five. -- M. Jagger

by cocktailsfor2 on May 5, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions

I beg to differ…Maholm shut them down.

by thelumberco. on May 5, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions

i say keep laying in breaking pitches

his slider looks alright so far, everything they’ve hit has been a fastball

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on May 5, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions

Guess they’re throwing in the towel on Bixler. Even HE should be able to hit Suppan.

I'd rather be dead than singing "Satisfaction" at forty-five. -- M. Jagger

by cocktailsfor2 on May 5, 2009 7:36 PM EDT reply actions

I hear crickets.

I'd rather be dead than singing "Satisfaction" at forty-five. -- M. Jagger

by cocktailsfor2 on May 5, 2009 7:42 PM EDT reply actions

Snell just threw an 86 MPH fastball.

by Charlie Wilmoth on May 5, 2009 7:45 PM EDT reply actions

Isn't there a rule?

That all ex PBC hurlers automatically get quality starts against the Pirates?

Isn’t it called the Arroyo Rule? I remember it from last year when I just about burst a blood vessel when Josh Fogg put up 4 or so shut out innings against the PBC.

by WstCstBucco on May 5, 2009 7:48 PM EDT reply actions

For some reason,

I’ve always liked Counsell. Steady journeyman ballplayer.

I'd rather be dead than singing "Satisfaction" at forty-five. -- M. Jagger

by cocktailsfor2 on May 5, 2009 7:48 PM EDT reply actions

I’ve always kind of liked him too, but I’m also surprised he’s never been a Pirate.

by Charlie Wilmoth on May 5, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions

agreed. he would’ve been nice to have @ 3rd when Freddy moved to 2B. Also could’ve backed up Jack

I'd rather be dead than singing "Satisfaction" at forty-five. -- M. Jagger

by cocktailsfor2 on May 5, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions

Arriba, Freddy!

Feliz Cinco de Mayo!

Do it again!

I'd rather be dead than singing "Satisfaction" at forty-five. -- M. Jagger

by cocktailsfor2 on May 5, 2009 7:51 PM EDT reply actions

Augh.

I don’t even hafta see it live to know what happened. Mario looked at 2 strikes, then took that long, loping swing on a ball a foot outside.

Could the month of May be Mario’s April?

I'd rather be dead than singing "Satisfaction" at forty-five. -- M. Jagger

by cocktailsfor2 on May 5, 2009 7:59 PM EDT reply actions

when he’s hot, he’s on fire. when he’s cold, he’s freezing. I said it last night: He has to be the streakiest hitter in baseball!

by thelumberco. on May 5, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions

grrrrr

I'd rather be dead than singing "Satisfaction" at forty-five. -- M. Jagger

by cocktailsfor2 on May 5, 2009 8:11 PM EDT reply actions

Carsarn idjets!!!

Sticking with Yosemite Sam cursing.

by WstCstBucco on May 5, 2009 8:13 PM EDT reply actions

Leadoff walks...

and both those runs came with 2 outs – WTF?

I'd rather be dead than singing "Satisfaction" at forty-five. -- M. Jagger

by cocktailsfor2 on May 5, 2009 8:16 PM EDT reply actions

and now

is when Suppan settles in to finish his one run CG…wtf, ITS THE BREWERS

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on May 5, 2009 8:17 PM EDT reply actions

oh, PLEASE don’t let that be so.

I'd rather be dead than singing "Satisfaction" at forty-five. -- M. Jagger

by cocktailsfor2 on May 5, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions

need to plate moss

but I don’t have confidence in the bottom of this line-up. brutal.

by richmondpirate on May 5, 2009 8:25 PM EDT reply actions

Moss!!

A hit. A very palpable hit.

(Yeah, a bit high brow for this crowd, ain’t it?)

by WstCstBucco on May 5, 2009 8:25 PM EDT reply actions

Lil Doumit is a BA!

by thelumberco. on May 5, 2009 8:30 PM EDT reply actions

What,

no double for JJ?

I'd rather be dead than singing "Satisfaction" at forty-five. -- M. Jagger

by cocktailsfor2 on May 5, 2009 8:30 PM EDT reply actions

The PBC has to be the worst in the ML

at scoring runners from 2B on a single.

Swing Away, Ian. Swing Away!

by WstCstBucco on May 5, 2009 8:31 PM EDT reply actions

agreed

by thelumberco. on May 5, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions

Bonehead JR decision

DIdn’t let Ian swing away (or go for the suicide squeeze). Relying on Morgan to drive home the tying run is not a winning move.

by WstCstBucco on May 5, 2009 8:34 PM EDT reply actions

Well, I thought about that, but 9 out of 10 times, Snell’s going to ground into a DP. I hate when a pitcher comes up to bat with runners on the corners and one one because most of the time, they are going to bunt when I would rather see them hit. But at the same time, you don’t want to ground into a DP.

by thelumberco. on May 5, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions

so it begins

but…where did the second pitch miss?

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on May 5, 2009 8:36 PM EDT reply actions

Nyjer Morgan's average

is slip slidin’ away. Give him a few more weeks and it’ll be pretty bad.

I didn’t like the moves by Russell last inning, either.

by patthatt on May 5, 2009 8:37 PM EDT reply actions

I get to see Mike Scioscia a lot and I love the way he puts pressure on the opposing squad by taking the extra base, employing the squeeze bunt, hit and run. I haven’t seen the PBC do these kind of things all year.

Scioscia’s theory is that you have to force teams to play good defense and a lot of them just can’t do it under pressure. It’s about manufacturing runs.

by WstCstBucco on May 5, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions

i love how he batted macier izturis third…genius

by richmondpirate on May 5, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions

Snell's FB

has been between 85-87 the last couple of innings (at least according to CBS game center). If true, that’s a bad sign

by richmondpirate on May 5, 2009 8:39 PM EDT reply actions

for what it's worth

Gameday consistently shows 2 MPH faster than what I’m seeing on TV (which is the same as your values, have only seen one or two 90-91 all game)

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on May 5, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions

game center has snell and suppan at the same mph on their fastball

by richmondpirate on May 5, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions

i don't think

players should be allowed to wear elbow guards.

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on May 5, 2009 8:40 PM EDT reply actions

Jason Bay

Hit his 6th HR of the year tonight, a three-run job.

I sure hope the Red Sox fans are enjoying JBay. I simply can’t wish him ill. May he reap the benefits of his talent.

by SloshyJ on May 5, 2009 8:40 PM EDT reply actions

Wonder where Bay will be next year?

Since Epstein couldn’t sign him to an extension.

by WstCstBucco on May 5, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions

Back in the ’Burgh baby!

by thelumberco. on May 5, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions

yes, return triumphantly!

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on May 5, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions

Any guess

on how much Bay signs for?

by WstCstBucco on May 5, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions

depends on how good of a season he has…if the season ended today, he’d be gettin’ a lot of it…

by thelumberco. on May 5, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions

Hey! Whaddya know? A two-out walk! Let’s see if he comes around to score.

by thelumberco. on May 5, 2009 8:41 PM EDT reply actions

didn't the O-Dorf

own him too?

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on May 5, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions

that was meant for the comment below

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on May 5, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions

haha…oh, I don’t know about Ohlie. I just remember Snell striking Braun out three times when he pitched in Milwaukee, and we lost 1-0!!!!

by thelumberco. on May 5, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions

The Brewers might own us right now, but Snell owns Braun right now individually! He K’d him again.

by thelumberco. on May 5, 2009 8:45 PM EDT reply actions

Geez, let’s score some runs!! What has happened to this offense?! We’ve got 2 runs against Suppan?!?

by thelumberco. on May 5, 2009 8:47 PM EDT reply actions

Can’t LaRoche find a happy medium just once in his career?

by thelumberco. on May 5, 2009 8:52 PM EDT reply actions

Speaking of averages dropping like a Chrysler stock….

When was Adam LaPew’s last hit?

by Hitman Easler on May 5, 2009 8:53 PM EDT reply actions

that’s what I’m sayin..

by thelumberco. on May 5, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions

Leadoff walk

AGAIN.

Gah.

I'd rather be dead than singing "Satisfaction" at forty-five. -- M. Jagger

by cocktailsfor2 on May 5, 2009 8:55 PM EDT reply actions

Obviously, our pitchers just don’t get it…

by thelumberco. on May 5, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions

its not...

that they don’t get it. they do. snell and karstens (and some of the bullpen) just have poor control

by richmondpirate on May 5, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions

That’s all our pitchers do is walk people!!!!!!!!!

by thelumberco. on May 5, 2009 8:56 PM EDT reply actions

please snell

I think you need to walk more people to be effective

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on May 5, 2009 8:57 PM EDT reply actions

ok…I’m leavin. This is ridiculous. Good night all.

by thelumberco. on May 5, 2009 8:58 PM EDT reply actions

and now time for a bullpen

who has been decimated by Brewers

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on May 5, 2009 8:59 PM EDT reply actions

GIDP.

Now.

I'd rather be dead than singing "Satisfaction" at forty-five. -- M. Jagger

by cocktailsfor2 on May 5, 2009 9:04 PM EDT reply actions

or not.

I'd rather be dead than singing "Satisfaction" at forty-five. -- M. Jagger

by cocktailsfor2 on May 5, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Off topic:

R.I.P. Dom DeLuise.

I'd rather be dead than singing "Satisfaction" at forty-five. -- M. Jagger

by cocktailsfor2 on May 5, 2009 9:06 PM EDT reply actions

why do I watch

brewers games? Let me chalk up the rest of the brewer season as 0-and-whatever and if we win any of them I’ll be pleasantly surprised

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on May 5, 2009 9:07 PM EDT reply actions

these

are the most worthless “hits” I’ve ever seen

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on May 5, 2009 9:08 PM EDT reply actions

Suppan

will not be bunting.

I'd rather be dead than singing "Satisfaction" at forty-five. -- M. Jagger

by cocktailsfor2 on May 5, 2009 9:08 PM EDT reply actions

or needing to swing the bat at all, apparently.

I'd rather be dead than singing "Satisfaction" at forty-five. -- M. Jagger

by cocktailsfor2 on May 5, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions

I'd rather be dead than singing "Satisfaction" at forty-five. -- M. Jagger

by cocktailsfor2 on May 5, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions

oh no.

by Charlie Wilmoth on May 5, 2009 9:11 PM EDT reply actions

wow

that’s just….wow. Can’t throw a strike to a PITCHER who is TRYING to get out.

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on May 5, 2009 9:11 PM EDT reply actions

well

happy cinco-de-lose-to-the-brewers-o…No need to finish this game.

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on May 5, 2009 9:14 PM EDT reply actions

I'm

breaking out the tequila.

Eff it.

I'd rather be dead than singing "Satisfaction" at forty-five. -- M. Jagger

by cocktailsfor2 on May 5, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions

Grabow, Chavez and Burnett (against lefties) are the only guys that can be counted on, with Yates, Veal and Hansen struggling in limited work. And it’s only a matter of time before Chavez has a melt down. Capps has been off the last few weeks. His 4 walks are 1 less than he had all last season.

Thank you.

by SloshyJ on May 5, 2009 9:15 PM EDT reply actions

Try

not to throw your arm out patting yourself on the back. Heh.

;-)

I'd rather be dead than singing "Satisfaction" at forty-five. -- M. Jagger

by cocktailsfor2 on May 5, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions

Brett Myers has allowed his 9th and 10th home runs of the season tonight, and it’s still only the 4th inning. Yadier Molina connected on a pitch way up and in and yanked it out; he pointed towards the Cards dugout around first. Myers must be tipping his pitches this year.

by shayborg on May 5, 2009 9:20 PM EDT reply actions

The comeback begins with a one-out line drive single by Luigi and another two-base wild pitch…

by shayborg on May 5, 2009 9:27 PM EDT reply actions

Suppan @ 107 pitches. GET TO HIM NOW!

I'd rather be dead than singing "Satisfaction" at forty-five. -- M. Jagger

by cocktailsfor2 on May 5, 2009 9:28 PM EDT reply actions

Notice

Luigi now with a higher BA than Mario.

by Thunder on May 5, 2009 9:29 PM EDT reply actions

Monroe looked terrible in that AB, watching the strikes down the middle and swinging at the pitches out of the zone…

by shayborg on May 5, 2009 9:38 PM EDT reply actions

clearly

he’s just out of rhythm from not starting regularly

by richmondpirate on May 5, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions

Yates is looking strong. He’s clearly in a good rhythm from pitching every day.

by shayborg on May 5, 2009 9:45 PM EDT reply actions

maybe you are on to something

by richmondpirate on May 5, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions

The thing I definitely want in my life is more Tyler Yates.

I made most of my life decisions at a Foghat concert... I stand by them.

by Chester J Lampwick on May 5, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions

Evan Meek

Walks his first two batters on 10 total pitches. A sacrifice moves them to 2nd and 3rd with one out.

GAG.

by pittbluedevil on May 5, 2009 10:05 PM EDT reply actions

So with Meek throwing so many pitches this inning, that leaves Veal for the ninth against Braun & co. Uh…

by shayborg on May 5, 2009 10:11 PM EDT reply actions

Oh, I wasn’t watching the game any more. Didn’t realize they’d scored two more runs.

by shayborg on May 5, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions

I was just going to remark that we haven’t seen Veal in a long time. I want to see more of him and see if he’s made any improvements.

I’m not hopeful.

I made most of my life decisions at a Foghat concert... I stand by them.

by Chester J Lampwick on May 5, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions

yeah

might as well

by richmondpirate on May 5, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions

Say it with me.

WE WANT. DEL-WYN. WE WANT. DEL-WYN.

by Suffering Buc on May 5, 2009 10:19 PM EDT reply actions

haha

here he is.

by Suffering Buc on May 5, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions

Whoo! Two-run double for Delwyn! Down to 8-5. Now Meek’s inning looks a lot worse…

by shayborg on May 5, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions

At the very least,

that was a great move by Neal to get him for, well, nothing.

by Suffering Buc on May 5, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions

Wow. Terrible AB by Morgan.

by shayborg on May 5, 2009 10:22 PM EDT reply actions

Nyjer

hitting the wall. And nothing else.

by bucdaddy on May 5, 2009 10:24 PM EDT reply actions

It’s time for Veal. 3 IP, 7 BB, 3 K. The K per inning means he has great stuff, right? ;)

by shayborg on May 5, 2009 10:24 PM EDT reply actions

And Donnie hits the first batter, Prince Fielder, with his first pitch. Wonderful.

by shayborg on May 5, 2009 10:25 PM EDT reply actions

Great. Awesome first pitch.

by Charlie Wilmoth on May 5, 2009 10:25 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

dear god

by richmondpirate on May 5, 2009 10:27 PM EDT reply actions

Well it could have been worse. . . .

I made most of my life decisions at a Foghat concert... I stand by them.

by Chester J Lampwick on May 5, 2009 10:27 PM EDT reply actions

I don’t even know why the Brewers are bothering to swing here.

by Charlie Wilmoth on May 5, 2009 10:27 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

To tell you the truth Veal is actually throwing some strikes. It’s not like he’s missing wildly on every pitch.

by shayborg on May 5, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions

was that really Veal’s fault or could JJ have caught it? tough to tell on gamecast

by richmondpirate on May 5, 2009 10:28 PM EDT reply actions

A little of both. Jaramillo was able to get in front of it but it bounced off him to his left.

by shayborg on May 5, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions

It’s beyond me how this guy has a big league roster spot.

Is the state of our franchise really this bad?

by Suffering Buc on May 5, 2009 10:28 PM EDT reply actions

I was just thinking about this. Do the Pirates really have any better options?

I made most of my life decisions at a Foghat concert... I stand by them.

by Chester J Lampwick on May 5, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions

There’s the four-pitch walk we were waiting for.

by shayborg on May 5, 2009 10:31 PM EDT reply actions

I'm not surprised

he hit Fielder, I’m surprised anyone can miss him. Guy’s the size of a small country. Andorra.

by bucdaddy on May 5, 2009 10:31 PM EDT reply actions

HBP and a walk to set the table.

Now Jason’s going to rope one and it’ll be 10-5. Hope I’m wrong.

by Suffering Buc on May 5, 2009 10:32 PM EDT reply actions

Whoa, Veal just blew away Kendall. You don’t see that every day.

by shayborg on May 5, 2009 10:32 PM EDT reply actions

Or not!

Good for Veal. He may not be a big league pitcher, but I feel happy to see him come in after that much time in the pen and throw a scoreless inning.

by Suffering Buc on May 5, 2009 10:33 PM EDT reply actions

Just got back from the game. My girlfriend was freezing in the cold and rain, and the game was awful. Took off in the 7th. I see it got a little better.

by CptnAwesome on May 5, 2009 10:39 PM EDT reply actions

My first game there this year…Adam LaRoche’s music introduction is “In the Air Tonight”. That was unexpected. Last year he used some 3 Doors Down or Three Days Grace or something.

by CptnAwesome on May 5, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions