Pirates 11, Mets 6: Andrew McCutchen's Huge Debut
If any of the unhappiest fans today were able to bring themselves to tune in to the game today, they probably feel a lot better. As much as it may hurt to lose Nate McLouth, his replacement Andrew McCutchen had about as good a big-league debut as we could've possibly hoped for. And to the "fans" who (apparently) booed him--get over yourselves. Like it's McCutchen's fault about the trade. (hisjazziness points out in the comments that some of the booing may have been coming from Mets fans.)
McCutchen singled and scored in his first at bat, and it mostly just stayed good from there. The Pirates drove Mike Pelfrey out of the game early, scoring nine runs against him with a blizzard of singles and walks. After flying out in his second at-bat, McCutchen walked to lead off the fourth and scored again. He also hit a nice 0-2 single off J.J. Putz in the seventh, bringing home Ramon Vazquez for his first big-league RBI, then got his first steal by swiping second without a throw, and he came around to score for the third time when Nyjer Morgan (who might have had an inside-the-park homer if he'd hustled the whole way) hit a long triple to right-center. It was a tremendously exciting and promising game for McCutchen overall.
Oh, and Steven Jackson looked great racking up ground ball outs in the seventh and eighth, and Vazquez had four hits. Also, Andy LaRoche left the game in the seventh after taking a fastball off the knee. (I've seen the injury described as a "bruise" and a "contusion," so it appears he'll be fine.) But today was all about McCutchen, who looked, for one game at least, like he's going to be a big part of the Pirates' future.
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just curious,
but how did Jackson get the win? not trying to argue, but it looked like Gorzo would “vulture” another win as he was the 1st relief pitcher.
and what a debut by Cutch!
by humbucker on Jun 4, 2009 3:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
if a starter fails to go 5 innings. it is the up to the official scorer to award the win to the pitcher he feels is most worthy.
by jsn4219 on Jun 4, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
More reason why wins and losses for pitchers are meaningless.
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by Willton on Jun 4, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A solid debut for Andrew McCutchen
and another nice win over the hated Mets!
by patthatt on Jun 4, 2009 3:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Can't Ask For More Than That...
Good on Cutch! Way to debut…
There will be ups and downs but it sure is nice to have an elite home-grown prospect have a strong debut.
by Mick Kraut on Jun 4, 2009 3:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
To all the Andrew McCutchen haters at the game who booed him when he came to the plate in the first inning and to all the whiners crying the past 24 hours that they traded McLouth and the season was over, I got five words for you…
Raise the F’n Jolly Roger!
by Bishop1973 on Jun 4, 2009 3:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
seriously?! Cutch was booed???
by Pirates fans?
no class.
by humbucker on Jun 4, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was stuck at work, but that’s the message that my wife relayed to me. A smattering of cheers, but mostly boos.
by Bishop1973 on Jun 4, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t see it either. I was teaching until about 2:00. I watched the last four or so innings. That’s ridiculous. I’m trying to watch the archived game now, but MLB.tv won’t let me yet.
by Charlie on Jun 4, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that’s classless. Just like Charlie said, it’s not his fault that McLouth got traded. If you want to boo, go knock on the door of NH’s luxury suite and boo in his face. But to boo McCutchen is terrible! We’re all frustrated. We’re all upset. But McCutchen is a future All-Star, and he deserved better than that. Shame on ya’ll that booed.
Moving on, here are some thoughts on today’s game:
1. Obviously, Andrew McCutchen. This is the first time I have ever seen him play, live or on TV, and this kid is going to be a stud. From the talk of NH and the Pirate scouts, one of the main aspects he needed to work on last year was his plate discipline and drawing more walks. Well, I think he has passed that test with flying colors. He didn’t swing at any bad pitches, which included some pretty good sliders from Pelfrey and Putz, and never looked fooled on any pitches. He has a very short and compact swing to go along with great bat speed. His swing is similar to McLouth’s, but maybe even quicker. That swing will generate into more power as he gets stronger down the road. His speed? HE CAN ABSOLUTELY FLY! He may be on Michael Bourne’s level and he is definitely faster than Nyjer Morgan, and that’s saying something. Like I said, today was the first time I had ever seen him play so obviously I had never seen him run before. Him and Morgan will be a nightmare for other teams at the top of the order the rest of the season. This kid is very impressive. I’m excited. I know it was just one game, and he will probably struggle a little bit trying to adjust to major league pitching, but Cutch is the real deal.
2. J.J. Putz. As impressive as Cutch was today, Putz was equally unimpressive, and has really been bad all year. I haven’t been impressed with him at all. He’s a good reliever, and give the Pirates credit for knocking him all over the yard today, but his velocity and location are not what they were in Seattle. He had Cutch 0-2 today and hung a splitter out over the plate, and Cutch made him pay for it with an RBI single. His fastball is flat and very hittable at 91-92 mph. Obviously, this version of J.J. Putz is not what the Mets envisioned when gave him huge money over the winter. They paid him the big bucks to dramatically improve their bullpen, and right now, the bullpen, apart from K-Rod, is just as bad as it was a year ago. Putz better step it up, or the NY media and fans will eat him alive.
by mspirate on Jun 4, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve already added Cutch to my fantasy team…
by BlindSquirrel on Jun 4, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Putz
He might be injured. Pain is his elbow I believe was reported.
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by Chester J Lampwick on Jun 5, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow can't believe they booed him
No class – and how ignorant!
His PA’s were as good as advertised. Very good start!
by Pensburgh Pirates on Jun 4, 2009 3:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Brought it up on another thread .., but since no one's reading that one ...
It’s my belief that Cutch should hit 2nd behind Morgan, given that Morgan has less potential power (slg%), and has more MLB reps hitting leadoff. I realize Cutch may be faster, and for that reason is a better leadoff hitter, but even though he’s no HR threat he does get a number of XBH which could lead to some RBI production.
Also, why is Moss hitting ahead of Jaramillo? I took a look at their situational stats, and they’re nearly identical down the line (all situations), butb Jaramillo’s at .280-.300, and Moss is .250-.260. Maybe a switch will help them both out.
Last … (I swear) … What about puting Doumit at 1B (assuming Adam is traded and Doumit is not) and keeping Moss at RF and Jaramillo at C?
by Pensburgh Pirates on Jun 4, 2009 3:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Doumit’s statistics are a lot less valuable at 1B than they are at C. I doubt they would make that move.
by Bishop1973 on Jun 4, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doumit at 1B...
…means replacing LaRoche’s bat with that of a backup catcher.
Bad idea.
by Vlad on Jun 4, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The booing
Could have been coming from the throng of Mets fans there. They were at least half of the crowd.
by hisjazziness on Jun 4, 2009 3:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wow
if it was Pirate “fans” that booed him, I’m just speechless. What kind of logic is that. Nate was alright, but when he is your best player, your team needs a lot of help. The same people booing McCutchen today were probably complaining about Nutting being cheap and keeping him in the minors for the last month. So, great idea, let’s boo the kid before his first at bat so he really learns to appreciate playing in Pittsburgh
by superope on Jun 4, 2009 4:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Something that couldn’t help but cross my mind:
I read in the pregame stuff that the clubhouse is quiet and Jack says that the players are angry, then Jack comes down with the “flu” and Freddie goes 0-5, including striking out with a man on third and less than 2 outs on a pitch that almost hit him in the shoe.
Anyone else think that?
by God Loves on Jun 4, 2009 4:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yep, it crossed my mind too.
Jack might legitimately be sick, though.
by humbucker on Jun 4, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, I hope not. I know it’s hard for everyone in that clubhouse. The reports said that Nate was getting choked up while talking to the media this morning in the Pittsburgh clubhouse and had to stop several times to regain his composure. You know, there are a lot of people that say these professionals players are just in it for the money. They don’t care if they get traded or benched or whatever the case may be. This is a prime example of what team unity and friendship means, and that it’s not always about the dollars.
by mspirate on Jun 4, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jack might also legitimately suck
I’m just saying.
I’ll never get why fans are so concerned about the “Clubhouse” and the veterans. How long do [some of them] have to lose to prove their lack of value? I’d love to see them continue to churn the roster if it brings any hope to producing a team that can strive for better than beating the .500 mark.
That said, Nate is not that kind of player. I’d be really surprised if he would have done anything other than welcome McCutchen if it had been another teammate dealt.
by chicos_pants on Jun 4, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Jack might also legitimately suck"
I guarantee you we’ll miss his defense when he’s gone-whether it be soon or the end of 2010.
If we trade him to a team like the Red Sox, we’d better get something good for him, because you’ll immediately see the adverse effects of running Vazquez, Bixler and Cruz out there to man the position the rest of the year. And Snell won’t be the only pitcher getting pis*ed off.
by patthatt on Jun 4, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guarantee I will not miss any of the players who contributed to 17 consecutive losing seasons. Some of them I will wish well with other teams, and others I will feel smug about seeing the Pirates having served as their final lifeline to the major leagues.
There are plenty of marginal bat, decent gloved middle infielders available every off season.
No one on this team is irreplaceable
by chicos_pants on Jun 5, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
jack could very easily be sick..and as for sanchez, everyone has an off day. His just happened to come the day after a very shocking trade. A trade that shook up the clubhouse. I would be slightly annoyed too if I were on the team. nate was loved by his teammates and fans, and we’re going to miss him.
by Meghan P on Jun 4, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Sanchez could easily go 6-for-6 tomorrow. You’re not going to get a hit every time out. I guess people just expect that from Freddy, though.
by mspirate on Jun 4, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice work, please keep beating the Mets.
Any idea when Morton is going to the rotation? Sorry to see him go, but there was really no room for him. You got some nice pieces in that deal. Locke could be special in a few years.
If Dunn walks 30 fewer times, he'll drive in 15 more runs. This is thanks to the scientifically proven formula: RBI = (this is nonsense) (I made it all up).
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by TradeAndruw on Jun 4, 2009 4:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Burn your couches ! Bucs sweep !
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by Ketcham Bruce on Jun 4, 2009 5:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Booing....
Cutch looked great. I expected him to get a standing ovation when he came up in the first. He didn’t, but I think the booing thing is being overplayed. I was in the first row behind third base and the booing was very limited at most.
Jackson looked great. Ohlendorf, not so much.
by dtoddwin on Jun 4, 2009 5:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I heard a little of it when I watched the replay. It is audible, but it’s not like the whole stadium is doing it.
by Charlie on Jun 4, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Finally got to watch Cutch's highlights
Damn, he can flat-out fly. His acceleration on that stolen base was unreal… This is exciting.
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by phillybucco on Jun 4, 2009 5:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. He may steal 30 bases this season.
by mspirate on Jun 4, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nyjer is amazing...
From the Post-Gazette after the game:
“It’s definitely going to be a little more exciting.”
And how many wins does the team being “a little more exciting” bring?
by IAPiratesFan on Jun 4, 2009 5:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
at least we know...
he’s probably not the one that was whining about being “cheated” by management today.
by lost_zero on Jun 4, 2009 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah, Nyjer loves playing with Cutch. They had great chemistry in Indianapolis.
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by Sixty Feet, Six Inches on Jun 5, 2009 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beltran is pissed.
New York center fielder Carlos Beltran expressed shame at being swept in three games by the Pirates.
“The reality of this is coming here to Pittsburgh and getting swept, me, I feel embarrassed,” Beltran said after the Mets’ 11-6 loss this afternoon at PNC Park. “I mean, we have to take this personally. It can’t happen. It can’t happen, us being able to come here and lose three games just like that. Three games to this team. I know they’re a big-league ball club, but we’re better than them.”
He cited the absence of just-traded Nate McLouth.
“McLouth wasn’t there, and they still come out and score how many runs, 11? Eleven runs. We have to play better.”
Per Dejan’s blog.
by Suffering Buc on Jun 4, 2009 6:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Heh.
New York center fielder Carlos Beltran expressed shame at being swept in three games by the Pirates.
“The reality of this is coming here to Pittsburgh and getting swept, me, I feel embarrassed,” Beltran said after the Mets’ 11-6 loss this afternoon at PNC Park. … “I know they’re a big-league ball club, but we’re better than them.”
by shayborg on Jun 4, 2009 6:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Seriously. What a d-bag.
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by gorillakilla34 on Jun 5, 2009 4:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe we finally found our rivals???
The “Amazing” Mets are completely terrible. This team just chokes every single season away.
Andy Cutch was completely unbelievable yesterday. I skipped school (and two finals) to go see his debut and I was so happy I did. It was an amazing atmosphere for a Thursday afternoon.
I GOT MY STREET BUZZ BEFORE I GOT MY PEACH FUZZ
by omar moreno on Jun 5, 2009 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This used to be a pretty good rivalry in the late 80s to early 90s. I rember going to games at 3Rivers and the fans loved riding DARRYL! and rockin’ “Muck the Fets!” and “Mookie Sucks!” signs
by chicos_pants on Jun 5, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Pirates sweep... the Mets?
Great performance by the Buccos. I never expected them to play as well as they did in this series. The big story of this series is that the Pirates are within 3 games of .500 now. The fact that McCutchen was added to the starting lineup gives me a lot more confidence in the Pirates ability to score runs at the top of the lineup. After all, 2 for 4 with a walk and a stolen base isn’t bad for your first major league start. If Cutch turns out to be half as good as they say he will be, he will be better than McClouth. Go Bucs!
by Ariba!#21 on Jun 5, 2009 8:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like how you posted my 1/2 his potential quote
It really is true
I GOT MY STREET BUZZ BEFORE I GOT MY PEACH FUZZ
by omar moreno on Jun 5, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thebukkakebandit
That’s quite a user name you got there. In the oft chance you’re talking about a soba or udon dish, then I guess it’s O.K. on a sports site, but, if you’re talking about doing something with your own noodle, then I don’t get why you chose it for SBNation.
by patthatt on Jun 5, 2009 9:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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