News Roundup: Draft Propsect Kyle Gibson Injured
by Charlie on Jun 6, 2009 10:28 PM EDT
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DJ Gallo: Fact is, the Pirates know what they're doing - ESPN
Great article about the Pirates' plans over at ESPN.com.
Missouri's Gibson has stress fracture | MLB.com: News
Missouri pitcher Kyle Gibson, once among the possibilities for the Pirates' fourth overall pick in this week's draft, has a stress fracture and is therefore probably out of the running.
The Baseball Analysts: 2009 Draft Day Spotlight: Tony Sanchez
An interview with catcher Tony Sanchez, another potential first-rounder, who confirms that he's talked with the Pirates. Sanchez would be a pretty serious reach with the fourth overall pick, especially in a draft that's fairly deep with catching. There might even be an outside shot that Sanchez would be available with the Pirates' second-round pick.
O's eyeing 16-year-old shortstop? -- baltimoresun.com
The Orioles are interested in Miguel Angel Sano.
Tim Kurkjian: Pittsburgh Pirates' Ross Ohlendorf 'on a different level' - ESPN
Ross Ohlendorf sounds like he might be a GM someday.
Minor League Baseball: Scoreboard: Akron 1, Altoona 0
Brad Lincoln had another awesome start for Altoona, dropping his ERA to 1.95. Move this guy up already.
Minor League Baseball: Scoreboard: Lynchburg 1, Wilmington 0
Ronald Uviedo, Michael Dubee and Pedro Alvarez all got the Hillcats off to a great start in their doubleheader today, although Alvarez went 0-for-4 in the second game.
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Maholm/Duke/Lincoln/Morton rotation sounds good, even if the #5 would have to be one of Snell, Karstens, Ohlendorf, Gorzo…
by ddff22 on Jun 6, 2009 10:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The nightcap wasn’t so kind to Pedro. 0-4 with 2Ks in a 1-0 Lynchburg loss.
by houksyndrome on Jun 6, 2009 10:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks. I didn’t realize there was a doubleheader.
by Charlie on Jun 6, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only affiliate that didn't play 2
was Indy. Splits all around for the other 3.
by Thunder on Jun 6, 2009 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lincoln.
I think Dejan wrote that management wasn’t ready to move Lincoln yet because he didn’t use all of his pitches enough. Relying too much on the fastball to shut them down and that he’d get rocked in Indy. I say let him go to Indy and get rocked, that’ll learn him. He’ll eventually figure out how to pitch to those more advanced hitters…
by IAPiratesFan on Jun 6, 2009 11:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
He has nothing more to prove in AA. He’s not going to learn to mix his pitches if he can dominate the hitters on his level with a fastball. Even if he starts out throwing other pitches, if he falls behind he has to be thinking “screw it, I’ll just throw my fastball by them.”
www.sixtyftsixin.com
by Sixty Feet, Six Inches on Jun 7, 2009 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This could be a dumb question, but do prospects such as Lincoln call their own pitches? I would figure the bench is calling the game, and would make sure he is using his curve and change.
by bolton on Jun 7, 2009 2:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I recall Charlie mentioning maybe two weeks ago that it’s still too early to be worried about Pedro, but that it may be a slight cause of worry if his performances didn’t improve.
How has he looked overall since then? His stats I found say he’s hitting .240 with a .448 SLG and 9 HR. I confess to not following player development closely, so I have no idea if that’s good / normal for a guy who played in college. What would be a good line for the year for him?
by CptnAwesome on Jun 7, 2009 12:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know what the typical line is for a college guy at this level, but I would say it’s unusual for a player with his experience to strike out this frequently against A-ball pitchers and go on to become a star in the major leagues. There are exceptions, such as Ryan Howard, but the odds generally favor players who make contact.
by bolton on Jun 7, 2009 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
I remember Dejan posting something a few months ago saying that it’s pretty common for college sluggers like Alvarez to strike out a ton when they first enter the minors because the pitchers will pitch around them knowing that the person behind them isn’t nearly as good. After a while, they tend to start to chase bad pitches because they want to get a hit instead of walking for the third time that day. It’s a discipline thing that comes with age.
www.sixtyftsixin.com
by Sixty Feet, Six Inches on Jun 7, 2009 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did Dejan name any specific players? I’ve had a hard time finding good major leaguers who had a K/AB rate of 30 percent at A-ball.
by bolton on Jun 7, 2009 2:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Considering who he is working for...
does Perrotto have inside information??
http://piratesreport.com/page/blogs.detail/display/125/Pirates-could-be-eyeing-Crow.html
by Thunder on Jun 7, 2009 11:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t mind crow if he drops to us. The Catcher would be nice too, considering that’s always a tough spot to draft and get good production from. A good hitting catcher is a nice commodity to have. and hopefully he progresses at a decent rate too up the minors.
Let’s hope for a good 2009 amateur MLB draft just like 2008.
by lfhlaw on Jun 7, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh I don't want that catcher at the four spot.
I didn’t know crow through that hard but i would love to have him if he can bring the heat like that. If the management can bring in Crow or Ackley and sign Sano, I would start drooling immediately thinking about the future.
by samvescovi on Jun 7, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sanchez isn't necessarily a good-hitting catcher.
The bat is iffy.
by Vlad on Jun 7, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which one is it...
What’s the name of the clip?
by Slick1 on Jun 7, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dejan does not judge, you do
I think he’s done a fine job of presenting several facets of this trade. Not just the two sides (good trade/bad trade), but the clubhouse impact, direction of the FO, etc. Some of the facets that cast the trade in a bad light are… well, they just are. They’re real things and he’s just presenting them.
by azibuck on Jun 7, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wrong bucko
Dejan makes it abundantly clear he doesn’t like the trade.
by Hitman Easler on Jun 7, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What are you basing that on?
Are you sure you’re not extending his neutral reporting of the negative side of the trade into YOUR opinion that he doesn’t like it?
by azibuck on Jun 7, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't judge, azibuck,
I just posted the link. Dejan says both that he’s for and against the trade here.
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 7, 2009 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your link goes to a video library of 324 viddies
Which one?
And really, I was responding generally, not specifically to your link, but to your linked text.
by azibuck on Jun 7, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
augh.
thought I had provided the direct link.
If THIS doesn’t work, it’s on page 2, titled "Subway Nightly Sports Call (6/4)
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 7, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well OK, when
I mean, nevermind, because I don’t think it’s worth arguing, but he doesn’t even say that figuratively.
by azibuck on Jun 8, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, azibuck.
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 7, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how far will Gibson drop with the stress fracture?
Do you think he will be available at 49 or where ever our late first round pick would be? I would take a gamble on him at the sport if the return rate for pitchers with injuries like that isn’t horrible
by samvescovi on Jun 7, 2009 12:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Another question would be, does his agent think he’s worthy of a higher contract a la Scheppers or however you spell it (pirates draft last yr) and he’ll want that price and sit out like crow did and play ball in a smaller league.
by lfhlaw on Jun 7, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
very good point.
come draft day we will find out i suppose. He is going to want the money more than likely
by samvescovi on Jun 7, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m wondering what the drawback would be drafting him in the 1st round anyways with your 1st pick. Not like most players go right to the majors. So what if he’s set back for like a couple of months.
Could you parlay this into an extended type contract or what if…..contract…idk.
or back load the contract or incentive clauses(though i think those are rare)
by lfhlaw on Jun 7, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The drawbacks:
1) He won’t be healthy in time to play this fall.
2) There’s a slight but non-zero chance that it won’t heal right.
by Vlad on Jun 7, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that article about Ohlendorf and his thesis is really interesting
and who knew that Lee Tunnell was his high school pitching coach?
by humbucker on Jun 8, 2009 12:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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