Draft Day One Overflow Thread: Bucs Draft Tony Sanchez
by Charlie on Jun 9, 2009 4:50 PM EDT
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Baseball Prospectus (subscription required) has the Bucs taking USC shortstop Grant Green, which is a pick I'd endorse based on what I know so far. But the name on everyone's lips elsewhere is that of Boston College catcher Tony Sanchez. Keith Law (see below) says the Pirates already have a deal with Sanchez, and Baseball America has the Bucs taking Sanchez in its latest mock draft. It also says in the blurb on the front page that the first four picks are pretty much "locked down." Jen Langosch also thinks the Bucs will take Sanchez.
Sanchez hit very well for Boston College this year, but even he says his game is all about defense:
David Laurila: I understand that your favorite player is Yadier Molina. What does that say about you?
Tony Sanchez: It says that, for me, it's all about defense, and hitting is a bonus. I pride [myself on] defense a lot and work really hard on catching; I work hard on throwing guys out, blocking, receiving, and everything that goes with the job. I'd much rather throw a runner out than hit a home run, and that's the same mindset as Yadier Molina has. He really loves his defense, and he works harder for his pitchers than he does for himself in the batter's box. That's the way I try to play.
That's admirable and all, but can we please not take a defense-first catcher with the fourth overall pick? There are lots of catchers available in this draft. If the Pirates don't want to take a pitcher fourth overall--and I think that's understandable, given what bad investments first-round pitchers often are--there are higher-upside hitters available, like Green and Florida high school infielder Bobby Borchering (who, like Sanchez, would probably sign relatively cheaply anyway). I'm not opposed to the Pirates saving a bit of money early in the draft as long as they grab some high-upside, tough-to-sign players in the Robbie Grossman mold later on; this is a strange draft that might reward an unusual approach like that. But from what I've read so far, I don't want that to mean using their first-round pick on Sanchez.
You can watch the draft here.
6:15: The Nats select Stephen Strasburg. No surprise there.
6:19 The Mariners pick Dustin Ackley. It's no surprise, but it would have been nice if the Bucs got a shot at Ackley.
6:23 The Padres draft Donavan Tate. Bucs on the clock.
6:28 THE PIRATES PICK TONY SANCHEZ. As I said before, I don't get this pick. I'd love to understand the Pirates' side of it, but almost no one seems to think this is a good idea. The Bucs need upside, and from what I've seen, Sanchez is a slow-bat, defense-first catcher who doesn't provide it. I'm fine with the idea of spending relatively little with the first-round pick because there are few standouts and lots of depth in this draft, but there are other players who could have been drafted cheaply who'd provide more upside. Bobby Borchering, a lead-gloved high school infielder with lots of power potential, is one. It's not too late for the Pirates to salvage this draft, as there will be lots of opportunities for the Pirates to throw money around later on, but for now I give this pick thumbs way down.
I suppose it's admirable that Neal Huntington doesn't really seem to care what the fans think, but most of his other main moves (trading for Jose Tabata, and so on) have been to get upside. From what I've read and seen, Sanchez doesn't fit the bill, at all.
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More Sanchez talk
Seems like all there’s left to do is call his name. Per the Post Gazette:
Little less than 90 minutes until Major League Baseball’s 2009 first-year player draft, and it certainly has the feel that Pirates management has narrowed its focus to Boston College Tony Sanchez at No. 4 overall.
“Still gotta wait and see what happens,” Sanchez said in a text message moments ago. “Big hopes, though.”
by woobie on Jun 9, 2009 4:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have less of a problem with Sanchez than most of you guys do; I don’t feel confident enough in my prospect evaluation abilities to say that he’s definitely worse than Grant Green or Bobby Borchering or whoever else. That said, if guys like Matzek and Crow are out because of ridiculous bonus demands, I would still rather see us draft Gibson.
by shayborg on Jun 9, 2009 4:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gibson could fall to the sandwich pick/ late first round due to injury. Theres an outside chance you could get your wish
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by GTrain on Jun 9, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doubtful. Especially since other guys are going to fall due to bonus demands, I think Gibson is taken in the middle of the first round.
by shayborg on Jun 9, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Neal
Huntington is my new hero. The man has balls of steel. Talk about being your own man. A lesser G.M. would have been gun-shy after the McLouth uproar (I liked the move, by the way). But Neal is unfazed. G.M.’s that let fan opinions run their ball club are losers and pu$$ies.
by MickS on Jun 9, 2009 4:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Balls of steel are nice, but all the fans can’t be wrong all the time.
by shayborg on Jun 9, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think a lot of them can be absolutely wrong all the time. They have a real knack for it. But I think the Sanchez thing seems like a very bad idea.
by Charlie on Jun 9, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A lot, yes, but all? I don’t see anyone here really defending the Sanchez pick.
by shayborg on Jun 9, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, I agree with you. I don’t like it either.
by Charlie on Jun 9, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that’s kind of my point. I am completely OK with the management going against the majority opinion, but we’re seeing pretty much unanimous opposition to Sanchez today.
by shayborg on Jun 9, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven’t seen a draft person say it’s a good idea yet, either. This is just strange.
by Charlie on Jun 9, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s only a good idea if the Pirates spend big in the later rounds.
by woobie on Jun 9, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think it’s a good idea even then. It’s not like Sanchez is the only choice who’d be willing to sign for slot.
by Charlie on Jun 9, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
What idiocy. You can’t take me that they couldn’t get 10 better players at slot.
I guarantee he’s signing well under slot.
by Bernie6666 on Jun 9, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I told some of my friends that bought into the “salary dump” line that the Pirates showed last year in the draft that they were serious about spending money.
Obviously, they shouldn’t spend money for spending money’s sake. Just seems like there’s plenty of other guys at #4 that have a higher upside and would be reasonable to sign.
by CptnAwesome on Jun 9, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He reminds me of Charles on The Office.
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by GTrain on Jun 9, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I watched that show this past season, but I still didn’t know who Charles was until I remembered that you meant Stringer Bell. :)
by shayborg on Jun 9, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea I always just call him “guy from the wire”
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by GTrain on Jun 9, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I certainly don’t want a GM who is influenced by what fans think. Neal knows if he builds a winner, the fans will come.
That being said, it seems like this guy at #4 is a reach. Notwithstanding the fact it’s a thin class, is that really the best option for a team badly in need of talent?
Like Charlie said, if the Pirates take Sanchez, I hope they take some high upside guys who want above-slot money like Grossman last year.
by CptnAwesome on Jun 9, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think going above slot in lower rounds was their plan. Let’s hope they succeed.
So you think 25 percent of the country is retarded!? Yea, totally. Atleast 25 percent. Well lets do a sample. There are 4 of us and you're retarded. Thats 25 percent. -South Park; Mystery of the Urinal Deuce.
by gorillakilla34 on Jun 9, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed! I’m not going to get hysterical before anything happens.
by CptnAwesome on Jun 9, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m sure they will. I get the feeling that someone like Crow or Matzek could fall to the second round because of money.
by shayborg on Jun 9, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay...
I liked the McLouth trade as well.
But for the draft…. Dave Littlefield didn’t let the fans influence his picks either. Otherwise, we wouldn’t have a fine pitcher named Danny Moskos in our system.
When you draft a player 20 slots before he’s projected to go, you are making an enormous mistake. I hope the fans raise all sorts of flack over this pick. They should. Show me a scout that says he should go #4.
You’ll never convince me this isn’t a money move. I don’t care how unreasonable some agents are being. There are 15 other signable guys with much more upside.
I remember my anger at the Moskos pick. This is close.
by Bernie6666 on Jun 9, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Weiters
What makes me less upset about this pick than the Moskos pick is that there is no Weiters at four in this draft. There are a bunch of signable questionmarks and questionmarks that appear to have priced themselves out of the market.
What I am bothered by the idea of a seemingly low upside glove first catcher. I would be somewhat OK doing this for someone with a flaw but also a skill I think could help down the road. Borchering is the best example of someone like that in this class for me. A mediocre athlete with big power potential.
by haven on Jun 9, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If
Management feels other guys that they wanted are not worth the 3-5 million extra, then I am on board with this deal. I don’t know what their mindset is, but if that is the mindset then that is fine. Someone like Buchering now apparently wants more money as well, so everyone is trying to get theirs this year — only problem is the top-end talent isn’t where it has been in year’s past. I think this is even a case of the Pirates being unlucky to be drafting in the top 5. You either want to be the worst or good when it comes to the draft slots this year.
by Slizeezyc on Jun 9, 2009 5:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes, that’s the theory, but I just don’t buy that there were no other players on the Pirates’ draft board after Ackley who would have signed for slot or so.
by shayborg on Jun 9, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Baseball America wrote earlier today that Borchering wanted $2 million, which seems entirely reasonable.
by Charlie on Jun 9, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t wait to hear their line of thinking of why they dug so deep to get Sanchez. Especially why they passes on the HS guys.
So you think 25 percent of the country is retarded!? Yea, totally. Atleast 25 percent. Well lets do a sample. There are 4 of us and you're retarded. Thats 25 percent. -South Park; Mystery of the Urinal Deuce.
by gorillakilla34 on Jun 9, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
(not said in a sarcastic tone)
So you think 25 percent of the country is retarded!? Yea, totally. Atleast 25 percent. Well lets do a sample. There are 4 of us and you're retarded. Thats 25 percent. -South Park; Mystery of the Urinal Deuce.
by gorillakilla34 on Jun 9, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Whole
I think you have to let the whole draft unfold including international signings before you rip Huntington a new one.
by MickS on Jun 9, 2009 5:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
too late
sincerely,
typical casual Pirate fan
by BadAndy on Jun 9, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
So you think 25 percent of the country is retarded!? Yea, totally. Atleast 25 percent. Well lets do a sample. There are 4 of us and you're retarded. Thats 25 percent. -South Park; Mystery of the Urinal Deuce.
by gorillakilla34 on Jun 9, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s funny, but the casual Pirate fan isn’t watching the draft.
In fact, the average casual Pirate fan hasn’t even fully frothed at the mouth about McLouth yet, as they haven’t gotten over not re-signing Mientkiewicz.
by CptnAwesome on Jun 9, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
Some haven’t even retired their Jason Kendell jersey.
So you think 25 percent of the country is retarded!? Yea, totally. Atleast 25 percent. Well lets do a sample. There are 4 of us and you're retarded. Thats 25 percent. -South Park; Mystery of the Urinal Deuce.
by gorillakilla34 on Jun 9, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's because
they’re too busy walkin around Sal-Side in their J-Bay jersey
by BadAndy on Jun 9, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Callis says the top 8 picks are more or less locked in:
1. Nationals: San Diego State righthander Stephen Strasburg.
2. Mariners: North Carolina first baseman Dustin Ackley.
3. Padres: Georgia HS outfielder Donavan Tate.
4. Pirates: Boston College catcher Tony Sanchez.
5. Orioles: California HS righthander Matt Hobgood.
6. Giants: Georgia HS righthander Zack Wheeler.
7. Braves: Vanderbilt lefthander Mike Minor.
8. Reds: North Carolina righhander Alex White.
by shayborg on Jun 9, 2009 5:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No one seems to like Borchering, which surprises me. I can’t believe the Braves would draft Minor.
by shayborg on Jun 9, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
at this rate we'll find out we'll pick at 49
before Maz offically announces the 4th overall pick
by BadAndy on Jun 9, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Funny that, in a draft that’s supposed to be so loaded with pitching, three of the first four picks are hitters.
by Charlie on Jun 9, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
The Braves are taking Minor? Didn’t see that coming at all.
I wonder how far Matzek/Crow will drop.
by woobie on Jun 9, 2009 5:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
When you think about it....
3 years ago, who would have thought there would be this many PIRATES fans who cared so much about the draft.
So you think 25 percent of the country is retarded!? Yea, totally. Atleast 25 percent. Well lets do a sample. There are 4 of us and you're retarded. Thats 25 percent. -South Park; Mystery of the Urinal Deuce.
by gorillakilla34 on Jun 9, 2009 5:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not very many. I think people are much better informed than they used to be.
by Charlie on Jun 9, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus
It was just going to lead to pain since you knew DL wouldn’t draft anyone worth a damn.
by Slizeezyc on Jun 9, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Every year there was some hope, though. And he did draft McCutchen.
by Charlie on Jun 9, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I should have
put in the caveat — for the most part.
by Slizeezyc on Jun 9, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And here cocktails would say
blind pig. truffle…..ect….
So you think 25 percent of the country is retarded!? Yea, totally. Atleast 25 percent. Well lets do a sample. There are 4 of us and you're retarded. Thats 25 percent. -South Park; Mystery of the Urinal Deuce.
by gorillakilla34 on Jun 9, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would've
had I been here. Was still reading the first thread. Gah.
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DL did get Lincoln as well, and everyone liked him at the time. Maholm has turned out pretty well, too, especially compared to some of the guys taken above him.
by shayborg on Jun 9, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone
Outside the first round of any worth by DL? The point was that you kind of knew there really wasn’t going to be any sort of a “solid” draft. I mean it seems like you guys are trying to defend DL to some extent, but let’s not forget the “strong” minor league system he left behind.
by Slizeezyc on Jun 9, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh God, did I just defend DL? I need to go put on my hair shirt…
By and large Littlefield was a terrible drafter, especially because he never ever found anyone useful after the first round. His second round picks in particular were unbelievably awful — Blair Johnson (out of baseball), Gorzelanny (OK), Bixler (utility IF at best), Brad Corley (traded for cash), Mike Felix (really struggling), and Duke Welker (ditto).
by shayborg on Jun 9, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doumit was a 2nd rounder, wasn’t he? Just sayin…..
So you think 25 percent of the country is retarded!? Yea, totally. Atleast 25 percent. Well lets do a sample. There are 4 of us and you're retarded. Thats 25 percent. -South Park; Mystery of the Urinal Deuce.
by gorillakilla34 on Jun 9, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That just goes to show you...
just how much of a gamble any round in the draft is. Half of those 1st round choices never amounted to any ML talent.
So you think 25 percent of the country is retarded!? Yea, totally. Atleast 25 percent. Well lets do a sample. There are 4 of us and you're retarded. Thats 25 percent. -South Park; Mystery of the Urinal Deuce.
by gorillakilla34 on Jun 9, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You look back at those old draft threads, it's amazing
If I had to guess, though Charlie would know better than anyone, I bet the ’06 draft thread had 30 comments total, tops.
by woobie on Jun 9, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know how much of that was lack of interest and how much of that was the fact that people hadn’t yet realized that blogs are a good place to congregate for these sorts of things. BD in ’06 or ’07 got only a tiny fraction of the traffic it gets now.
by Charlie on Jun 9, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Either way it's awesome
You do a great job Charlie. If it wasn’t for BD I wouldn’t get to talk with anyone else who gave a crap about the Pirates.
So you think 25 percent of the country is retarded!? Yea, totally. Atleast 25 percent. Well lets do a sample. There are 4 of us and you're retarded. Thats 25 percent. -South Park; Mystery of the Urinal Deuce.
by gorillakilla34 on Jun 9, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll throw my thanks in here, too. The article about our defense was great.
by CptnAwesome on Jun 9, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same. It’s all great. I only know one other guy personally who likes the Pirates
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by GTrain on Jun 9, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice
I know 0.
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 9, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I live in Pittsburgh, and I have about 15 friends who still care about them.
by Suffering Buc on Jun 9, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember hanging out at BBTF for the last few drafts. This place is really hopping this year… Congrats, man. :)
by shayborg on Jun 9, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is a great blog and one of my first stops every morning. SB’s rapid fire posting system also makes it great for events like this.
by woobie on Jun 9, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
game threads & draft threads are great on SBNation
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 9, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
for the record the Moskos fiasco open thread
had only 58 comments
Just did some research.
by BadAndy on Jun 9, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.bucsdugout.com/2007/6/7/15120/82854
by BadAndy on Jun 9, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
kinda is nowadays
hahahaha
wish I was golfing more often
by BadAndy on Jun 9, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like he does
Hangin aht dahn tahn with donnie iris. Maybe stop at primahni’s an drink some iron.
So you think 25 percent of the country is retarded!? Yea, totally. Atleast 25 percent. Well lets do a sample. There are 4 of us and you're retarded. Thats 25 percent. -South Park; Mystery of the Urinal Deuce.
by gorillakilla34 on Jun 9, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry
stupid attempt at putting Pittsburgh accent into text.
So you think 25 percent of the country is retarded!? Yea, totally. Atleast 25 percent. Well lets do a sample. There are 4 of us and you're retarded. Thats 25 percent. -South Park; Mystery of the Urinal Deuce.
by gorillakilla34 on Jun 9, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that was good actually
no hard feelings
by BadAndy on Jun 9, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
So you think 25 percent of the country is retarded!? Yea, totally. Atleast 25 percent. Well lets do a sample. There are 4 of us and you're retarded. Thats 25 percent. -South Park; Mystery of the Urinal Deuce.
by gorillakilla34 on Jun 9, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
fwiw, lately Moskos has had some pretty good starts at AA
sure, Moskos at #4 overall was a ridiculous overdraft, but don’t give up on him yet
http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=moskos001dan
by humbucker on Jun 9, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unrelated, but via Dejan
Tyler Yates was shut down after his right-elbow inflammation apparently flared, pain returning while warming up for a second inning of a simulated game here at Turner Field moments ago.
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 9, 2009 5:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
OH NO
we’ll have to stomach our suddenly moderately trustable bullpen without the likes of Yates
Jason
The Hanging Curve
by poorboywilly on Jun 9, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least Tony Sanchez is a cool name. I vote he puts the entire thing on his jersey.
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by GTrain on Jun 9, 2009 5:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
can we nickname him "Dirty" already?
by humbucker on Jun 9, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I gotta feeling that somehow that wouldn’t help Charlie get this blog linked at reputable sites.
YMMV.
by WstCstBucco on Jun 9, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and
Karstens will be starting Wednesday
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 9, 2009 5:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He could make a run at 20 losses, especially if we let him get a few more in relief…
by shayborg on Jun 9, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Snell has the inside track on that.
So you think 25 percent of the country is retarded!? Yea, totally. Atleast 25 percent. Well lets do a sample. There are 4 of us and you're retarded. Thats 25 percent. -South Park; Mystery of the Urinal Deuce.
by gorillakilla34 on Jun 9, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
With all the talk of Neil wanting to replenish the system, do you think if they sign Sanchez for under-slot cash, that means they want to get more than (I think it was 30 of 50 last year) signed this go around? Obviously it’s probably better to have a team that has more top-heavy talent than a bunch of solid talent, but just curious if maybe that’s the thought process as well.
by Slizeezyc on Jun 9, 2009 5:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
30 picks signed is actually a little above average, I think.
So you think 25 percent of the country is retarded!? Yea, totally. Atleast 25 percent. Well lets do a sample. There are 4 of us and you're retarded. Thats 25 percent. -South Park; Mystery of the Urinal Deuce.
by gorillakilla34 on Jun 9, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Per Kevin Goldstein at BP
“Pittsburgh is now taking Tony Sanchez fourth, and seems to already have a deal done, or at least is awfully close. Don’t get too mad YET Pittsburgh fans, until you get the whole picture, as they’ll be looking to bust slot further down the road as well as make a big splash in the International market.
Atlanta is now leaning towards Mike Minor with the seventh overall pick, which is a pick that deserves far more criticism than Sanchez at 4. That’s a very big domino that could lead to Cincinnati getting away from the high school arms and going for a quicker fix with Alex White.
Speaking of high school arms – all of those guys looking for huge money? They’re all dropping . . . bigtime. Could all clear the top ten picks unless Detroit bites. Matzek, Purke, Miller and Turner will create a lot of tough decisions for teams picking in the middle of the first round.
Finding a home for Kyle Gibson, as well as last year’s unsigned arms (Scheppers and Crow) is becoming more and more of a challenge."
by Slizeezyc on Jun 9, 2009 5:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I doubt any of those names mention
will make it to 49. The 1st round talent is just too weak.
by BadAndy on Jun 9, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hopefully this guys fall low enough to push some first round players far enough back in the draft that the pirates get a crack at them. its going to happen if all these guys keep falling someone will bite
by samvescovi on Jun 9, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
FWIW
Tony Massarotti’s 5 most hapless franchises in baseball.
Pirates are #2, though he says they could be #1 after the draft.
For all NH is doing, people still don’t like the Buccos
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 9, 2009 5:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Have these writers every said anything good
about the Buccos ever since Barry Bonds left?
It’s just like whatever
by BadAndy on Jun 9, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
but it’d be nice if someone would eventually realize that the Pirates are finally trying, if nothing else
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 9, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
People who actually know baseball know they’re turning it around.
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by gorillakilla34 on Jun 9, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why can't people that actually know baseball
be the ones that write all the MSM posts?
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 9, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They don’t want the average person who doesn’t know that much about the current FO to think they are insane?
So you think 25 percent of the country is retarded!? Yea, totally. Atleast 25 percent. Well lets do a sample. There are 4 of us and you're retarded. Thats 25 percent. -South Park; Mystery of the Urinal Deuce.
by gorillakilla34 on Jun 9, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess
but then I have no one to read (well, save for bloggers, but I do a ton of that anyways)
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 9, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was surprised about the ESPN article
that talked positive about Huntington and their current rebuilding mission. Sorry, too lazy to find it.
So you think 25 percent of the country is retarded!? Yea, totally. Atleast 25 percent. Well lets do a sample. There are 4 of us and you're retarded. Thats 25 percent. -South Park; Mystery of the Urinal Deuce.
by gorillakilla34 on Jun 9, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was by DJ Gallo IIRC if that helps… :)
by shayborg on Jun 9, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, read that one
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 9, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would help if Massarotti had actually thought about it...
…before he wrote that article. The Pirates now seem to have a plan - the right plan for this particular team, at this time and located in this market. The Pirates current state reflects the catastrophe left over from the last (mis)management regime.
Steve Z
by steve_z on Jun 9, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only remedy to all this
is win………..JUST WIN BABY
by BadAndy on Jun 9, 2009 5:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If only they had an undetectable performance enhancer...
maybe thats where Huntington is really putting the money saved by signing Sanchez…..He hired a team of mad scientists to develope a new performance enhancer only to be used by the Pirates. First conquer MLB then the world!! Time to get another beer…….
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by gorillakilla34 on Jun 9, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bring on the Rule 4 Draft!
Yep – FYI, the first year player draft is the Rule 4 draft.
by Brakeman8 on Jun 9, 2009 5:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Starts in 3 minutes?
or in 1+ hour?
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 9, 2009 5:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
6pm EST
So you think 25 percent of the country is retarded!? Yea, totally. Atleast 25 percent. Well lets do a sample. There are 4 of us and you're retarded. Thats 25 percent. -South Park; Mystery of the Urinal Deuce.
by gorillakilla34 on Jun 9, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I admit it. I like the idea of Tony Sanchez at 4. I like what Neil, Frank and Co. are doing with this team. I’m a fan of the plan. Hate me if ya want!
by Brakeman8 on Jun 9, 2009 6:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll know if I like this pick or not
after I see how they approach their next 2 picks (and beyond, of course)
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 9, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm Pumped
Regardless of the pick, I’m just excited it’s draft night.
by Slizeezyc on Jun 9, 2009 6:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
per Mayo
Matzek selected 9th by Detroit I believe
by BadAndy on Jun 9, 2009 6:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They are using the same song the NFL used in their draft.
So you think 25 percent of the country is retarded!? Yea, totally. Atleast 25 percent. Well lets do a sample. There are 4 of us and you're retarded. Thats 25 percent. -South Park; Mystery of the Urinal Deuce.
by gorillakilla34 on Jun 9, 2009 6:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Who's watching the Pens?
Personally, I could care less.
by woobie on Jun 9, 2009 6:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I will be… They don’t start for another few hours though.
by shayborg on Jun 9, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone on my block except me
I’m the outcast of the neighborhood
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by gorillakilla34 on Jun 9, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll be watching. My hockey team being in Game 6 of the Stanley
My hockey team being in Game 6 of the Stanley Cup Finals is more entertaining than the baseball draft.
by Suffering Buc on Jun 9, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, what’s up with this? Put the Nats on the clock!
by Charlie on Jun 9, 2009 6:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gotta have time for hype…especially since this is the first really big night for MLB.Net to shine.
by Brakeman8 on Jun 9, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nats draft
Stanford righty Drew Storen
safe pick obviously
by BadAndy on Jun 9, 2009 6:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hahahaha … for a second there I thought you were mental.
by woobie on Jun 9, 2009 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me.
I have the PIPIPIP going tonight…draft, Bucs and Pens!
by Slick1 on Jun 9, 2009 6:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
big setup
but in a good way. i expect sanchez to sign for between 1.5-2 mil. last year, in spending 9.8 mil on the draft, 6mil went to alvarez, about 1 mil went to organizational filler, and aalmost 3 more went to miller, freeman, and grossman. that leaves us more than 4 mil for signability picks such as those that may be available to us such as colton cain or slade heathcott. i like this strategy. remember, impact players don’t always come from the first round
by persp on Jun 9, 2009 6:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hate Bud Selig! Sorry, just had to get that out.
by Brakeman8 on Jun 9, 2009 6:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He should shut up
and just put the Nats on the clock
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 9, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Take a different pitcher
come on Nats! Pass on him for signability!
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 9, 2009 6:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ben McDonald
“It takes a pitcher a couple hundred years, er, innings to get comfortable.”
by woobie on Jun 9, 2009 6:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Strasberg #1
Mariners… pass on Ackley now!
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 9, 2009 6:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Please oh please
oh please oh please.
by Slizeezyc on Jun 9, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Though
he won’t make it past #3
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 9, 2009 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. They need to hire a pro. Or a former player with some charisma.
by Charlie on Jun 9, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe next year they get Carrot Top to do it.
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by gorillakilla34 on Jun 9, 2009 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I bet Bud hasn’t even heard of this guy before today.
by woobie on Jun 9, 2009 6:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nady
went straight to the majors?
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 9, 2009 6:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think that was part of his contract actually — IIRC it was a major league contract with the clause that he actually had to be in the majors in September after he was signed.
by shayborg on Jun 9, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Conor Gillaspie last year
Got 1 AB in Sept.
by buccoben on Jun 9, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
......and got injured
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by gorillakilla34 on Jun 9, 2009 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please, please
someone take Sanchez before #4. I want some excitement
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 9, 2009 6:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wanted a pony when I was little. It never happened.
by woobie on Jun 9, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
.....and how did that make you feel?
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by gorillakilla34 on Jun 9, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ackley #2
Bud Selig sucks at this
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 9, 2009 6:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I find the golf clap after the picks to be very funny.
by Brakeman8 on Jun 9, 2009 6:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Excited but nervous
Hope more for a reach at 4th than an overdraft, but that’s me.
It’s just it’d be nice if the PBC doesn’t draft 4th again for a long time. If drafting 4th can become a thing of the past, PBC should waste its opportunities when it gets to draft that high.
DK says PBC to draft at aprox 3:23.
by WstCstBucco on Jun 9, 2009 6:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
For a second there I thought it was actual applause.
by woobie on Jun 9, 2009 6:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Seligs about as exciting as a bag of doorknobs
by JR89 on Jun 9, 2009 6:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
One bad thing about constant updates, etc.
No drama …unless SD doesn’t take Tate.
by woobie on Jun 9, 2009 6:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh damn...
and what’s with the clapping?
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 9, 2009 6:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Can't wait for these guys to scratch their heads after the Pirates pick.
So you think 25 percent of the country is retarded!? Yea, totally. Atleast 25 percent. Well lets do a sample. There are 4 of us and you're retarded. Thats 25 percent. -South Park; Mystery of the Urinal Deuce.
by gorillakilla34 on Jun 9, 2009 6:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Reynolds
“HAHA….those crazy Pirates. They will announce their real pick in a minute. What? That IS their pick?”
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by gorillakilla34 on Jun 9, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dunno, I’m too busy making my Neal Huntington effigy.
by WstCstBucco on Jun 9, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't someone say they were going to a draft party at PNC?
I’d love to see that scene!
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by gorillakilla34 on Jun 9, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That "scene"
4 ‘fans’, 3 dressed in Penguins gear?
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 9, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Officially
On the clock…not much drama left however
by numeroocho on Jun 9, 2009 6:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ha, they are going to commercial..maybe our pick will be made during the break. lol
by Brakeman8 on Jun 9, 2009 6:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
From BA
Now we’ll see if the Pirates go to Boston College catcher Tony Sanchez, as we’ve indicated on the blog. To our understanding, it’s a done deal, with a pre-draft deal also in place.
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 9, 2009 6:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jorge Sanchez it is
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 9, 2009 6:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There ya go.
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 6:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Jorge is his given name and Tony is a nickname.
by shayborg on Jun 9, 2009 6:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thats why they had the comercial break B4 the pick.
So they knew who Sanchez is.
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by gorillakilla34 on Jun 9, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
First year with the draft on TV...
I don’t think they are going to bash any picks! Maybe they got an email from Selig before the draft started. Also, he’s a good player, just not a #4 pick.
by Slick1 on Jun 9, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heard “Jorge” and my heart started racing a bit.
by woobie on Jun 9, 2009 6:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh shit
by Danatural08 on Jun 9, 2009 6:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Harold Reynolds is saying Sanchez is a cold-weather player… Didn’t he grow up in Miami?
by shayborg on Jun 9, 2009 6:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jorge vs. Tony Sanchez
do we need a bone marrow sample to figure who he really is?
or should we just call him “Dirty” Sanchez, to make it easier?
by humbucker on Jun 9, 2009 6:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thats already Freddy's name damn it!
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by gorillakilla34 on Jun 9, 2009 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hobgood #5
stupid pre-draft talk ruined the fun of the draft. It’s just like the NFL, alright
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 9, 2009 6:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's as much of a reach as Sanchez.
Given he talent level after the 1st two picks signability is a huge factor, especially in this economy.
by Slick1 on Jun 9, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
6-4. 245 in high school … this kid is going to be HUGE.
by woobie on Jun 9, 2009 6:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He was rate the 18th best right hander by Baseball Amercia.
by Slick1 on Jun 9, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
doesn’t exactly sound that impressive. I think woobie ment he is going to be very large in size
by samvescovi on Jun 9, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's a solid player....
the other top pitchers are asking for a lot of money over slot and Hobgood apparently will sign at slot. The guy still has a lot of upside I just wanted to point out the importance of signability in this draft. It’s a factor for everyone this year not just the Bucs.
by Slick1 on Jun 9, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, the MLB Network guys know nothing. Reynolds was wrong about Sanchez being a cold-weather player… Now this dude is saying Hobgood may have the highest upside of any high school pitcher. Yeah, right.
by shayborg on Jun 9, 2009 6:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He just meant because he played at Boston College
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by gorillakilla34 on Jun 9, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But going to college in a cold-weather area means a lot less to a player’s development, or lack thereof, than growing up in the northeast as opposed to the south… I’m pretty sure Reynolds just didn’t know much about him.
by shayborg on Jun 9, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
or that could be
I wish they had actual evaluaters of talent to analize the draft
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by gorillakilla34 on Jun 9, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“analize.”
uh-huhuhuhuhuh
huhuhuhuh
huhuhuh
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Play less games becuase of weather
Harold is correct
by buccoben on Jun 9, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, that was extremely boring
How long until they get to pick No. 49?
NH says the darndest things. Now it’s “the ability to play professional ball in July-Sept 2009” is very important to the PBC.
Why not just say — “Nutting is exhausted from writing all these checks.” He and Coonelly said "no over slot signing in the first round.
by WstCstBucco on Jun 9, 2009 6:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think that’s what happened. I think they really will open their wallets later in the draft. I just don’t understand why Sanchez.
by Charlie on Jun 9, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am totally speculating on Nutting, but I do believe there is evidence that Coonelly is under pressure to make some under slot picks, particularly after the MLB brass went out of there way last year to support the PBC on the Alvarez signing fiasco.
by WstCstBucco on Jun 9, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Sanchez.
Not at #4 but I like him. I guess this the equivalent to the NFL trading down. We take an easier sign here and pick up a couple of more talented players later. I’m not going to judge this draft until it is over. NH must see someting in Sanchez he likes. I think his bat will get better with some good instrcuction. Let’s not forget he put up a pretty good line at age 21 against one of the toughest conferences in colllege baseball. He also performed pretty well in the Cape Cod League last year if I remember correctly.
by Slick1 on Jun 9, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think Nutting has anything to do with it.
I think it is NH with a plan to spend on a lot of tough signs in later rounds.
by Slick1 on Jun 9, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last year Huntington managed to do both. Way over slot for Alvarez and the go after tough signs (e.g., Grossman, Schweppers) with later picks. I like cake and ice cream. It ain’t against the law.
by WstCstBucco on Jun 9, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
On the good ship lollipop
“You’ll awake with a tummy-ache”
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We only signed 33 players last year and had no Sano.
I think we get more over slot this year and there is no Alvarez this year. Not apples to apples.
by Slick1 on Jun 9, 2009 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, but the cake last year was really good cake….after Stasberg and Ackley there is no cake nearly as good as Pedro was last year.
by Brakeman8 on Jun 9, 2009 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Zach Wheeler
to Giants
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 9, 2009 6:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think they're clapping
because Selig is leaving the podium
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 9, 2009 6:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I know I would...
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Selig
“With the first pick in the 19-draft.”
by woobie on Jun 9, 2009 6:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lol lol lol
I GOT MY STREET BUZZ BEFORE I GOT MY PEACH FUZZ
by omar moreno on Jun 9, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
(snerk)
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
(wallop)
I GOT MY STREET BUZZ BEFORE I GOT MY PEACH FUZZ
by omar moreno on Jun 9, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'M HERE EVERYBODY!!!
DONT WORRY! HEY CHARLIE!
I GOT MY STREET BUZZ BEFORE I GOT MY PEACH FUZZ
by omar moreno on Jun 9, 2009 6:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
HEY LOOK
You actually used punctuation in your first line…
Then what happened?
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Awwww...
He’s just happy to be here. What’s that wet spot on the rug? Bad Omar!
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by gorillakilla34 on Jun 9, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bud is even
Stupider than Bettman.
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 6:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
way stupider
imagine if he had to deal with what bettman had too. steroids are one thing, but baseball never could have recovered with him in charge
I GOT MY STREET BUZZ BEFORE I GOT MY PEACH FUZZ
by omar moreno on Jun 9, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah not bad
I GOT MY STREET BUZZ BEFORE I GOT MY PEACH FUZZ
by omar moreno on Jun 9, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bumgarner Lincecum Wheeler Alderson — maybe still Cain if he’s there.
by Slizeezyc on Jun 9, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
jeminy christmas
lets start a love game, start a love game
by omar moreno on Jun 9, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mike Minor
to Braves. And we have cheering.
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 9, 2009 6:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And Selig having some fun
who knew he could do that?
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 9, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Selig=Mr. Burns
Pirates draft Jorge Sanchez…..excellent…
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by gorillakilla34 on Jun 9, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahahaha
Release the hounds!"
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow...
I’m surprised the Braves went with Minor. I think that is a reach too.
by Slick1 on Jun 9, 2009 6:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I know he has risen on draft boards...
but it wasn’t too long ago that Baseball America had him as the 10th best LHP and a probable 2nd rounder. This is indeed a strane year for the draft. Minor projects as a #3 starter at best.
by Slick1 on Jun 9, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Minor pick makes Sanchez look like a great selection.
by woobie on Jun 9, 2009 6:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ERA's
tend to be high in college because of the aluminum bats, in the 4s is supposed to be good
by numeroocho on Jun 9, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bud
ad-libs.
nice one.
STFU, Bud.
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 6:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Come on
that’s gonna be his highlight of the night.
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 9, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the sad thing is
that your actually right.
“how was your little draft tonight honey?”
“sweetie, it went fabulous. i made a funny.”
lets start a love game, start a love game
by omar moreno on Jun 9, 2009 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess we get the pitchforks out...
on July 3rd…after Sano signs with someone else? It can only be assumed this is a “signability (spelled MONEY)” pick. Certainly not a “best player available” pick. It does address a need…if we don’t mind waiting 3 or 4 years for Sanchez to arrive.
Parts of “The Plan” are going to have to unfold over the next few months…or we may have a new GM at the end of 2010.
by Thunder on Jun 9, 2009 6:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I will be extremely pissed if we get outbid for Sano!
by Slick1 on Jun 9, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ain't no guarantees
I’m waiting for the inevitable PPG articles comparing Weiters minor league stats with Sanchez’s at the same point.
by WstCstBucco on Jun 9, 2009 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No doubt.
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Possibly..
.. Sanchez is well above and beyond the other catchers defensively in this draft. If the Pirates view him as the surest thing to a “gold glover” for the next 8-10 years then this absolutely is a good pick. A below average bat at the C comparably to most positions at is status quo, so if this guy has even an average bat and is a beast defensively then NH is going to look pretty smart.
The Pirates seem to be very interested in the defensive mind-set of the club going forward, as you stated a few days ago Charlie, love it or hate it, this goes with the club’s idea of improving the d. Also, everyone here is pretty knowledgable, so we all know the impact a top catcher can have on the pitchers, Sanchez may not have the bat to be an All-Star, but in 3-4 years the Pirates have one or two all star pitchers, you can bet he’ll be getting some credit then.
by jlk9697 on Jun 9, 2009 6:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hmm. Using the number 4 overall pick to draft for defense is like using it to take the best relief pitcher available. That worked out well for DL, didn’t it?
by WstCstBucco on Jun 9, 2009 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t look now, but that relief pitcher is starting to pitch pretty well. And, let’s remember that Neil, Frank and Co. did not pick him.
by Brakeman8 on Jun 9, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m pretty sure my post expressly states that I do, in fact, remember who picked Moskos.
I have never accepted drafting for position. Bad teams that want to be good teams just don’t do that — they pick the best available player. Penguins, for example, picked centers with their first pick 3 years in a row, didn’t they?
by WstCstBucco on Jun 9, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“pretty well” being relative, amigo.
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
YES! ERIC DAVIS! Shades of the 1990’s NBA/ NFL drafts with that suit. SICK
RIP NATE. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN...MISTER TONY PLUSH!
by GTrain on Jun 9, 2009 6:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mike Leake
minor upset?
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 9, 2009 6:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Everyone was saying
Alex White (or whoever the P from UNC is)
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 9, 2009 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me neither.
Man. strange year indeed. none of top 5 HS arms have gone yet.
by Slick1 on Jun 9, 2009 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You DO hafta love
Bud: “The Cinn-suh-natt-uh Reds”
And “The DEE-troit Tigers.”
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 6:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe there was a conversation about his ability to announce the draft
Advisor: “Bud, maybe you should do something to make the draft a little more entertaining.”
Bud: “How about I come up with an annoying, yet loveable accent.”
So you think 25 percent of the country is retarded!? Yea, totally. Atleast 25 percent. Well lets do a sample. There are 4 of us and you're retarded. Thats 25 percent. -South Park; Mystery of the Urinal Deuce.
by gorillakilla34 on Jun 9, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it is really weird
and i honestly do NOT hate our pick. we don’t have any catchers.
SO WHO DO WE TAKE IN THE 49 SLOT??
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by omar moreno on Jun 9, 2009 6:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
a pitcher that falls?
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 9, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Best available pitcher.
Likely will be the same as best available player at that point.
by Slick1 on Jun 9, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bud vs. Bettman:
Pat Williams: “I gave Gary a hockey puck once, and he spent the rest of the day trying to open it.”
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 6:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
PBC getting mocked on Yahoo blog
[Comment From Neil Huntington]
I’m only drafting players that I can sign without losing money. I do not want to draft players that are good if they cost to much. I do not care. This is a corporation not a baseball team
God, I hate this s***
by WstCstBucco on Jun 9, 2009 6:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“Yahooooooooo!”
It’s to keep from being called “Yay-hoos.”
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
these immature posters
need to grow the hell up! Seriously!
by BadAndy on Jun 9, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the rich
are going to get richer. all these high upside/hard signability guys are going to fall to the teams with the money, and had good records. The MLB draft if flawed in sooo many ways.
by Danatural08 on Jun 9, 2009 6:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
thank you
that what i always say. something has to change. like if it was up to me the top half of teams wouldn’t even get a first round pick
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by omar moreno on Jun 9, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then the guys would fall to the 2nd round
and still get paid.
They need to throw in a system like the NBA
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 9, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good point
i just mean that the lower teams would get an extra pick early. but your right on the way the high upside guys go. it sucks.
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by omar moreno on Jun 9, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s been going on forever.
How do you think the Angels got Jared Weaver with the 12th pick overall in 2004? (PBC picked Neil Walker one pick earlier.) Better scouting?
Nope — it was cheaper teams’ fear of Scott Boras.
There are a million stories in the Naked City just like this.
by WstCstBucco on Jun 9, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
and it’s stupid. MLB needs to do something about it.
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 9, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's a million lights on Broadway
And a broken heart for every one.
This is the story of one of them…
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jacob Turner, P
to Tigers
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 9, 2009 6:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Huh
I’m curious where Matzek and Crow are going to land.
by woobie on Jun 9, 2009 6:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
#49
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 9, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
cmon crow....
were wating for you…
we have popsicles
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by omar moreno on Jun 9, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And candy
All you have to do is come for a ride with us in this van……..
So you think 25 percent of the country is retarded!? Yea, totally. Atleast 25 percent. Well lets do a sample. There are 4 of us and you're retarded. Thats 25 percent. -South Park; Mystery of the Urinal Deuce.
by gorillakilla34 on Jun 9, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
…and don’t tell your Mom, ’k?
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
She would just be jealous of the time we’re spending together…………what were we talking about again?
So you think 25 percent of the country is retarded!? Yea, totally. Atleast 25 percent. Well lets do a sample. There are 4 of us and you're retarded. Thats 25 percent. -South Park; Mystery of the Urinal Deuce.
by gorillakilla34 on Jun 9, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lmfao
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha it would be a dream come true
if crow falls were going streaking
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by omar moreno on Jun 9, 2009 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not thrilled with Toni Toni Jorge but at least he is cheap. If this was football where we take a huge reach and end up paying him 30 million Id be more upset
RIP NATE. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN...MISTER TONY PLUSH!
by GTrain on Jun 9, 2009 6:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Drew Storen to the Nats
that’s about as far as I saw the predictions go.
Suspense time!
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 9, 2009 6:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Alex White and Grant Green are still on the board.
by Charlie on Jun 9, 2009 7:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. I was wondering about Green. Think teams are scared off?
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was reading KC
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 9, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that has to be it
he can play
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by omar moreno on Jun 9, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
From earlier
Conor Gillaspie got 1 AB last Sept after being drafted last year. In his contract.
by buccoben on Jun 9, 2009 7:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i love grant green to quite honest
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by omar moreno on Jun 9, 2009 7:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I bet you just made him a little uncomfortable
So you think 25 percent of the country is retarded!? Yea, totally. Atleast 25 percent. Well lets do a sample. There are 4 of us and you're retarded. Thats 25 percent. -South Park; Mystery of the Urinal Deuce.
by gorillakilla34 on Jun 9, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yet another o'flow thread, Chas?
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 7:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Green
Would be a nice pick for the Royals at No. 12.
by woobie on Jun 9, 2009 7:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oh yeah
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by omar moreno on Jun 9, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There goes
Matzek
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 9, 2009 7:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good pick
But now they better sign him.
by Slizeezyc on Jun 9, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah he's gonna cost them
but i like the pick
lets start a love game, start a love game
by omar moreno on Jun 9, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fix your jacket,
Bud.
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 7:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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